How Hashirama beat Madara

[LEAU92]

This is a collaberation theory, it's was thought out by me and a fellow NB member 'FK166'

By what everyone has seen so far, Madara seems as if he has GODLIKE powers, due to the fact that he has the rinnegan. In his short amount of time on the series, we have seen extreme speed and power which even suprised madara himself, he questioned kabuto what he did with his body, which some of us believe that kabuto applied hashirama's DNA to the mix.

LOL sorry for getting carried away, I just thought I'd get that out of the way

So we are all wondering, How the hell did Hashirama Senju defeat Madara Uchiha ?

Well first of all, Hashirama is the descendent of the younger son of the so6p who inherited the body of the sage. This would explain Hashirama's massive chakra supply and incredible life force. Madara went into this battle knowing he couldn't win against his power alone, sure he had the most powerful techniques (being the descendant of the oldest son of the so6p, who inherited the eyes of the sage and his spiritual power), but he didn't have the immense chakra supply to go into an endurance battle. So madara used the Kyubi to level the playing field, the battle was intense and even with madara's combined might with the kyubi, he lost the battle and was said to have died.

Hashirama had one important thing we didn't take notice of, which was the scroll of 1000 forbidden seals. Hashirama was probably the only person alive at that time who could use the seals, his chakra and physical stregnth make him ideal to perform kinjutsu that would usually harm a normal persons body.

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Hashirama, with his mokuton, his life force, and the scroll of 1000 kinjutsu's (which we all know would be considered S-Rank, maybe higher) could definitely overpower Madara Uchiha, not an easy battle, but definitely a win.

This theory is yet to be edited further, so make a few suggestions, maybe a response to why you disagree.

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[imsuppish]

just adding something this tobi/madara/obito/izuna whoever he is the masked guy used izanagi meaning he had uchiha and senju in him so why would adding senju to the summoned madara make him stronger? not disagreeing with you at all cause it makes sense but ya just sayin

 

[Flame Alchemist]

might be
I think I saw a scroll with him in that battle
but I don't know if it's the same one

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

yea not forgetting his massive physical strength......to which even tsunade is no match...;P

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

Yes against an EMS Madara........... if it had been Rinnegan Madara then things would had been very different.

 

[khb123]

makes sense

 

[LEAU92]

just adding something this tobi/madara/obito/izuna whoever he is the masked guy used izanagi meaning he had uchiha and senju in him so why would adding senju to the summoned madara make him stronger? not disagreeing with you at all cause it makes sense but ya just sayin

Well, people use hashirama senju's DNA to make them stronger and to prolong their life.

Danzo used Hashirama's DNA to make it possible to control the sharingans, you would need an amazing amount of chakra to use that many at a time, and he just happened to have the resource for that chakra.

Tobi was able to stop Suigetsu's blade with just his arm, he claimed that he used Hashirama's DNA as well to prolong his life, but not only that, it made him physically strong too.

Madara Uchiha said that kabuto tampered with his body, his power is far beyond that of a normal Uchiha, and that was evident in his fire release technique. His endurance in battle is shown to be incredible as well, he took on 3 of the most powerful shinobi (top 10) and was able to outclass them all.

 

[LEAU92]

Yes against an EMS Madara........... if it had been Rinnegan Madara then things would had been very different.

And he would need Hashirama's DNA to awaken that.

The sage seperated his power between his sons, the eldest son showed evidence of the sages eyes being diluted (spiral like pattern).

In order to reverse that process, madara had to combine both bloodlines to obtain the rinnegan.

So no way was madara ever going to fight hashirama with the rinnegan, madara's intentions was to take his DNA to obtain the rinnegan.

 

[LEAU92]

might be
I think I saw a scroll with him in that battle
but I don't know if it's the same one

If you wanted to fight Madara Uchiha, you'll need to bring out the BIG GUNS lol

i think the forbidden scroll will do the job

 

[Tosen]

This is a collaberation theory, it's was thought out by me and a fellow NB member 'FK166'

By what everyone has seen so far, Madara seems as if he has GODLIKE powers, due to the fact that he has the rinnegan. In his short amount of time on the series, we have seen extreme speed and power which even suprised madara himself, he questioned kabuto what he did with his body, which some of us believe that kabuto applied hashirama's DNA to the mix.

LOL sorry for getting carried away, I just thought I'd get that out of the way

So we are all wondering, How the hell did Hashirama Senju defeat Madara Uchiha ?

Well first of all, Hashirama is the descendent of the younger son of the so6p who inherited the body of the sage. This would explain Hashirama's massive chakra supply and incredible life force. Madara went into this battle knowing he couldn't win against his power alone, sure he had the most powerful techniques (being the descendant of the oldest son of the so6p, who inherited the eyes of the sage and his spiritual power), but he didn't have the immense chakra supply to go into an endurance battle. So madara used the Kyubi to level the playing field, the battle was intense and even with madara's combined might with the kyubi, he lost the battle and was said to have died.

Hashirama had one important thing we didn't take notice of, which was the scroll of 1000 forbidden seals. Hashirama was probably the only person alive at that time who could use the seals, his chakra and physical stregnth make him ideal to perform kinjutsu that would usually harm a normal persons body.

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Hashirama, with his mokuton, his life force, and the scroll of 1000 kinjutsu's (which we all know would be considered S-Rank, maybe higher) could definitely overpower Madara Uchiha, not an easy battle, but definitely a win.

This theory is yet to be edited further, so make a few suggestions, maybe a response to why you disagree.

Flamers, well i can't stop you guys can i ? but you guys make things even more fun lol

Nice theory bro, and like you said before it was a hard fight and even if there was a winner in the fight, he didn't escape it with a clean face. But one thing I wanna point out bro is that Stamina and chakra are diff. the older son of the sage was born with the powerful chakra while the younger was born with the stamina, and physical energy.

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[Veys]

I dont think Hashirama would use that scroll ...but we still havent seen how Hashirama fights so untill we see it we cant say anything about how he defeated Madara ;o

 

[TrollingSage]

I dont think Hashirama would use that scroll ...but we still havent seen how Hashirama fights so untill we see it we cant say anything about how he defeated Madara ;o

Actually during the flashback there was a pic of The Kyuubi bound by wood and 2 large scrolls so its quite possible he used it. Also I dont think Madara had the rinnengan then.

 

[KazekageGeo]

hm
Gaara and naruto > Ems Madara
hashirama can beat madara without rinnegan
madara didnt have rinnegan that time

 

[bryanrs6]

i made the same exact thread in this and i think u replied on it

 

[bryanrs6]

ur an idiot

He probably died a year after the battle.

First he took the 1st hokage's cells and started his planning in secrecy, he most likely based himself in amegakure seeing as nagato is from there (and its the best hiding spot since no one infiltrates amegakure).

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lol

 

[LEAU92]

ur an idiot

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lol

umm, i remember that thanks, and if i want to repeat myself, i'll do it at free will, so you can kiss my ass bitch. It's not like people would travel back that far and look at your thread, stupid boy.

Actually during the flashback there was a pic of The Kyuubi bound by wood and 2 large scrolls so its quite possible he used it. Also I dont think Madara had the rinnengan then.

yup definitely, i saw that pic, and one might have been a sealing scroll, the other would have been the scroll of forbidden jutsus

 

[OWanime]

yup maybe rinnegan madara would be crazy but he only faced ems madara (madara awoken rinnegan near death)

 

[IzanamiNoMikoto]

Idk, kinda feels like you're asking a direct question to such an indirect concept...i doubt we can simply say "oh he used such and such jutsu or so and so tool to defeat Madara". It's pretty difficult to come up with a "how" theory for a fight we know little about. For all we know Madara could have been beating the crap out of Hashirama but Hashirama managed to pull some last minute ace that won him the fight.