how Harashima beat Madara & susanoo?

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its seems that susanoo is greatest sheilds ever... Madara has shown the effectiveness of it during batlle with the 5 kages... he squashes al the kages like flies...

how on earth Harashima does it... how can he escape from trapped in the genjutsu.. he also fight kyuubi at the same time...

during the battle with 3rd hokage, harashime seems kages level but when seeing madara in acts, its shows that harashima is actually in diferent level.. much higher than any konoha shinobi...

its seems, kakashi words are wrong.. the young are surpassing the senior.. its more likely the newbies is sucks than the first generations...
 

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Kakashi isn't wrong it's just that kishimoto isn't always consistent
 

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But madara used to be old and now is young, aka the younger people have surpassed old, and space time jutsu has created reckonings in between the lines of hope,

Lemme get this across to you sir, the young are better than the old which is why the baby must be made, darwin made me think about evolution... I hope he does the same to you...
 

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Susanoo is a great defense but how can it block trees growing from beneath its user? Answer it can't. Harashima probably just used trees to continuously get Madara out of position (or at least I would if I had that specific jutsu) He also had the help of Mito Uzumaki to help him seal Kurama. You've got to think after summoning Kurama Madara's chakra had to have been significantly depleted because summoning a normal summon takes a lot of chakra think about summoning a biiju? It probably takes a lot of chakra to on and control with hos sharningan therefore whenever it was sealed he had already wasted a lot of chakra and because Mito seal it inside of he that chakra was lost. Plus its stated that Harashima also controlled all of the tailed beast at some point maybe he used them to stop Kurama ans Madara.
 

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If Tsunade could damage the Perfect Susano'o, imagine what Hashirama could do
 

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madara susanoo is covering every inch of his body.. especially the perfect susanoo.. the wood elements maybe cant do a lot of damages... so how on earth its going to strucck from beneath
 

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You have to understand that Madara when he wasnt an Edo, did not have unlimited chakra so, Hashi could have stalled him and then went for the kill. Susano is a high risk jutsu !
 

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You have to understand that Madara when he wasnt an Edo, did not have unlimited chakra so, Hashi could have stalled him and then went for the kill. Susano is a high risk jutsu !
But Madara had EMS it doesn't deplete his chakra like MS would. During the fight with Kabuto you saw how Sasuke spammed all his eye jutsu's and in it didn't seem to slow him down even in the end of the fight he looked relatively healthy. Madara was also said to have great chakra even among the Uchiha.
 

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its seems that susanoo is greatest sheilds ever... Madara has shown the effectiveness of it during batlle with the 5 kages... he squashes al the kages like flies...

how on earth Harashima does it... how can he escape from trapped in the genjutsu.. he also fight kyuubi at the same time...

during the battle with 3rd hokage, harashime seems kages level but when seeing madara in acts, its shows that harashima is actually in diferent level.. much higher than any konoha shinobi...

its seems, kakashi words are wrong.. the young are surpassing the senior.. its more likely the newbies is sucks than the first generations...

NAME ME ONE ****ING YOUNGER GENERATION SHINOBI THAT OWNS THE OLDER KAGE GENERATION.

Everyone in the 4th kage era gets owned by the previous generatiuons. so this isnt just a hasihrama exception.


Nagato some others like orocihmaru & jiraiya really shine when it comes overall shinobi proess other than that theres no one.

I am so tried of that silly statement made by kahashi, its a figure of speech that people evolve, but as u can see shinibi as whole in these generations arenmt as powerful as the older ones.


WANA know why? its simple

The more wars u have the more demand for powerful techs, and this generation like nagato said is lucky to not experience wars in their time.

Read between the lines plz.
 
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psukkar is absolutely correct. Kakashi has a history of puking non-sense from his mouth, put it simply, he just says what he listened from other people i.e non factual. For eg. he said that sharingan has been derived from byakugan xD

Stop taking his dialogues as the word of god, he is just a character giving his opinions.

Also, the previous times were filled with battles between ninja villages. That meant ninjas that time were battle hardened and ready for war. The times of peace have made the current ninjas weaker ! Its not their fault, but thats how it is !
 
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