How fast are Dragonball characters?

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Dragonball Daizenshuu said:
Shockwave
First Appearance: Chapter 150
Category: ki manipulation
People: Piccolo Daimao, Piccolo, Cell, Nappa, others
Special Characteristics: This puts into practical use as a technique the shockwave, a wall of air produced when objects move through the atmosphere faster than the speed of sound. Since it doesn’t directly attack with ki, it is not a ki manipulation technique strictly speaking, but it similar to them in that it inflicts large damage on distant opponents. It inflicts damage on the enemy by producing an artificial shockwave through rapid hand movement or the emission of ki. What’s more, it is possible to fire it straight forward without concentrating power. (Daizenshuu 4, p.111)

Fist~
People: Goku
First Appearance: Chapter 171
Special Characteristics: An attack where the fist is pumped with tremendous force, unleashing a shockwave at the opponent. Goku was taught this technique by Kami-sama during his difficult training in the Heavenly Realm. During the 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai, he blew Chi Chi out of the ring with this technique.

~From the Entire Body
First Appearance: Chapter 229
People: Vegeta, Majin Buu (good)
Special Characteristics: Emitting ki from the entire body, an intense shockwave annihilates everything around them. Since it consumes a high amount of ki it isn’t used often in battle, and is generally only brought out as a last great attack.

~From the Fingertips
First Appearance: Chapter 302
People: Freeza
Special Characteristics: While making strange noises, he fires bullet-like shockwaves from his fingertips at his opponent. He attacks consecutively, and the opponent is reduced to tatters before they have the time to counterattack. Piccolo fell victim to this attack.
All that hype and exaggeration, All those calculations and assumptions such a shame no where near faster than light. Akira Toriyama has a different vision of how powerful and fast these characters are compared to the fans.
 
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Gotenks flew around the world I'm less than an hour. Gohan is a tier above that. Vegito a tier above that. Stop using pre-ssj feats
Those shockwaves still happen. Beerus vs Goku and Goku vs Frieza. This is striking speed which is part of combat. Not talking about travel speed or top speed.
Beerus,Whis,Goku and Vegeta are MFTL.
Whis is MFTL with his staff powers. Beerus and co are supersonic in striking. Slow.
 

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Those shockwaves still happen. Beerus vs Goku and Goku vs Frieza. This is striking speed which is part of combat. Not talking about travel speed or top speed.

Whis is MFTL with his staff powers. Beerus and co are supersonic in striking. Slow.
Beerus sends Whis on an errand and gives him three minutes in total to complete the task. Beerus being the impatient guy he is doesn't even wait the complete three minutes and instead takes it upon himself to fly across a distance of possibly millions of astronomical units in 1 minute 20 seconds.

It took Whis roughly 1 minute to fly the same distance, with his staff mind you.
 

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If it took Whis 1 minute to cross the distance and Beerus 1 minute 20 then we can easily find Beerus' speed since we have Whis' speed already. And since we have concrete, canon time frames there should be no issue with this whatsoever. The very fact that Beerus is impatient and gave Whis a strict time frame means it is also fair to assume Whis was moving at his highest possible speed.

Pretty much all grounds covered, right?

60 seconds = 4,522,092,665 c
80 seconds = x

4,522,092,665*(60/80) = x

80 seconds = 3,391,569,498 c (as Beerus took 1/3rd more time. There is an inverse relationship)

3 billion times faster than the speed of light. Incontestable. However, it does sort of make sense and does not necessarily contradict anything. At no point did it mention Beerus needed Whis to travel to Kaio's planet, he's just extremely lazy so it'd make sense he wouldn't want to fly there himself. Plus it would no doubt get tiring. It also sort of alludes to the fact that Whis' staff itself is probably fueled by Whis' own ki, because it isn't exactly much faster than Beerus' own movement speed.
 

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Really even if you want to call the original calc bs this one is clearly mftl either
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the smaller distance from our solar system and another star is 4.22 light years
considering that beerus crossed at least this distance in the stated frame of 80 seconds (as he lives on a completely different nebula which has its own suns)
S=3.99234299 × 10^16/80
S=4.9904287e+14 m/s

S=1664627.83 c

the absolute minimun
 

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Beerus-Sama was chilling at his temple inside of a gas nebula..where he lives.

A nebula can be 1 light year to 100 light years in size.

100 LY in 1 min 20 sec= 40 million X speed of light

1 LY in 1 min and 20 sec= 400,000 X speed of light

So beerus is in between these two numbers. Take into account he wasn't powered up while doing this. So he may well be in the hundreds of billions FTL while at full power.
 

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Those shockwaves still happen. Beerus vs Goku and Goku vs Frieza. This is striking speed which is part of combat. Not talking about travel speed or top speed.

Whis is MFTL with his staff powers. Beerus and co are supersonic in striking. Slow.
Or, being realistic, their shock waves are meant to signify the impact. Otherwise, Frieza should be equal to Whis in striking speed. They are at the very least, massively hypersonic in striking speed
 
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