How does the Infinite Tsukuyomi work exactly?

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The idea seems very odd to me.

While Madara uses the Juubi's chakra to cast his genjutsu upon the moon, does he not consider the possibility that at one point he will die?

How strong can an illusion be, exactly? It cannot alter reality. While the people will look hypnotised at the moon or something their bodies will still continue to function. They will die of sickness, starvation or old age.

Eventually, Madara will die, too, and then his plan would have gone to shi t.

I really don't understand how this plan works at all.
 

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Because it hasn't be explained yet. Thje biggest problem is how is Madara going to keep the Infinite Tsukuyomi going. There's the possibility though that the jutsu just mantains itself.

About people dying... yep, people would die. The point wasn't to erase death but to erase war and violence. People would die naturally over time, while sleeping in the Infinite Tsukuyomi, but they'd be caught in a idilliac world with no pain until that moment.
 

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people will be in their sleep till they're old, then they'll die....
in the end, madara would be the only person in the world,therefore he'll use the Tsukuyomi on himself & visualize a great world alongwith his brothers, (not to forget, he'll win against hashirama in this world,just for self-satisfaction )
All this assuming he has enough chakra to keep the Tsukuyomi for infinite time.....( not a prob if he has a ten-tails for that.....)
& people, not to forget, madara is edo, so he wont die of oldage....
 
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i have been think about this plan from the start now with people under this tsukuyomi everything that would it would be in there minds right so what about there real body if they are sleeping remember genjutsu mess with your mind and would it be safe to be under a genjutsu for say a year or more ....... i think it would be like in a coma your mind is else were but your body is were it is was when the jutsu is cast is the someone going to be there to connect your bodies to machine so that your body doesn't whether away...... realistically specking that whole plan is crap it's like kill off everybody slowly being under genjutus for too long i think would surly kill you and not to mention you body will slowly die for lack of loco motion........
 

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people will be in their sleep till they're old, then they'll die....
in the end, madara would be the only person in the world,therefore he'll use the Tsukuyomi on himself & visualize a great world alongwith his brothers, (not to forget, he'll win against hashirama in this world,just for self-satisfaction )
All this assuming he has enough chakra to keep the Tsukuyomi for infinite time.....( not a prob if he has a ten-tails for that.....)
& people, not to forget, madara is edo, so he wont die of oldage....

Which is why he wanted to revive the ten tails. The juubi was said to have like infinite chakra when ALL of the beasts are one, so he wouldn't have to worry about keeping it going. But once madara dies, the juubi would probably end the jutsu because no one is controlling it anymore. Then it will be th eonly thing left on earth.
 
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people will be in their sleep till they're old, then they'll die....
in the end, madara would be the only person in the world,therefore he'll use the Tsukuyomi on himself & visualize a great world alongwith his brothers, (not to forget, he'll win against hashirama in this world,just for self-satisfaction )
All this assuming he has enough chakra to keep the Tsukuyomi for infinite time.....( not a prob if he has a ten-tails for that.....)
& people, not to forget, madara is edo, so he wont die of oldage....

Big Flaw in that plan is that he needs to be alive to become the host of the ten tails
 

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I'm pretty positive a skilled genjutsu user can make time appear to stand still during a genjutsu... (Referencing back to Itachi's genjutsu on Kakashi that made it feel like he was in it for days when it was mere seconds.
 

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I'm pretty positive a skilled genjutsu user can make time appear to stand still during a genjutsu... (Referencing back to Itachi's genjutsu on Kakashi that made it feel like he was in it for days when it was mere seconds.

I deffitnetly agree with this.
 

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I'm pretty positive a skilled genjutsu user can make time appear to stand still during a genjutsu... (Referencing back to Itachi's genjutsu on Kakashi that made it feel like he was in it for days when it was mere seconds.

While I did have this in mind, I really doubt he can make time stop, as in, permanently.
 
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I'm pretty positive a skilled genjutsu user can make time appear to stand still during a genjutsu... (Referencing back to Itachi's genjutsu on Kakashi that made it feel like he was in it for days when it was mere seconds.

yeah i get that but what is the risk to your real body over time
 

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The idea seems very odd to me.

While Madara uses the Juubi's chakra to cast his genjutsu upon the moon, does he not consider the possibility that at one point he will die?

How strong can an illusion be, exactly? It cannot alter reality. While the people will look hypnotised at the moon or something their bodies will still continue to function. They will die of sickness, starvation or old age.

Eventually, Madara will die, too, and then his plan would have gone to shi t.

I really don't understand how this plan works at all.

lololo at last part... try to think alittle harder, im sure you'll find the answer
 

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While I did have this in mind, I really doubt he can make time stop, as in, permanently.
Probably not permanently, and it's probably not stopping time, but the altered state can feel as though it lasts more than a lifetime.
yeah i get that but what is the risk to your real body over time
It depends on how long the actual jutsu lasts... but isn't Madara also still some sort of Edo? I know Edo was ended, but he broke free so does he still have an immortal body? (I don't believe this has been discussed in the series). So in theory, if Madara can't die and the Juubi's chakra is enough to last for the rest of the world's lifetime, everyone else would die (which, if things go according to real life rules: they need water or everyone will die within a matter of days).

Basically it would be like it seems like a lifetime has passed and suddenly... people disappear. Goodness, it reminds me of the Rapture from the Bible! o_O People vanishing in the blink of an eye! (Though not just a one time occurrence).

Unless, roll with me here for a second, the essence of your mind is captured within the genjutsu, and even if your body ceases to function, you still keep living within the genjutsu... but that would only work if your SOUL was caught within the genjustu. However, I think we're over-analyzing a fictional series in a fictional world where dead people can be resurrected and stuff o_O Our rules don't apply there.
 

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Maybe somehow he will pull something like izanagi and make the "dream" reality?
 

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Its puts people under an infinite genjutsu where people will all be put inside an infinite dream where everything u dream comes to reality
 

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Probably not permanently, and it's probably not stopping time, but the altered state can feel as though it lasts more than a lifetime.

It depends on how long the actual jutsu lasts... but isn't Madara also still some sort of Edo? I know Edo was ended, but he broke free so does he still have an immortal body? (I don't believe this has been discussed in the series). So in theory, if Madara can't die and the Juubi's chakra is enough to last for the rest of the world's lifetime, everyone else would die (which, if things go according to real life rules: they need water or everyone will die within a matter of days).

Basically it would be like it seems like a lifetime has passed and suddenly... people disappear. Goodness, it reminds me of the Rapture from the Bible! o_O People vanishing in the blink of an eye! (Though not just a one time occurrence).

Unless, roll with me here for a second, the essence of your mind is captured within the genjutsu, and even if your body ceases to function, you still keep living within the genjutsu... but that would only work if your SOUL was caught within the genjustu. However, I think we're over-analyzing a fictional series in a fictional world where dead people can be resurrected and stuff o_O Our rules don't apply there.

Well technically Madara is Edo and it won't have any restrain on his body but what if Obito did it? Would it kill him in the end?
 
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Infinite Tsukuyomi is a technique that has been proposed by Obito Uchiha, though no actual user has ever been known to exist due to the requirements of the technique. The technique was once the goal of Obito's Eye of the Moon Plan.

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Obito's Eye of the Moon Plan involves acquiring the Ten-Tailed Beast's power and body, which resided in the moon, which allows him to cast his Sharingan's reflection upon the moon in a so-called an "Infinite Tsukuyomi", which would then project its effect throughout the entire world, effectively letting him conquer it. However, while it is unknown if Obito is capable of using the normal Tsukuyomi, which is another requirement of the technique, Madara Uchiha most likely can, as a user needs to awakened both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu in order to use Susanoo.

Without the tremendous power of the Ten-Tails, however, the technique is unusable. This leads one to believe that it costs a truly large amount of chakra in order to utilize the technique, meaning that most Uchiha could not ever hope to have use of the technique.
 
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