How does Hashirama counter Tsukuyomi?

[ComplexCity]

Joins in 2014 thinks he knows Og's. :th:

Been here since 2012 Dantard

 

[Dantee]

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You can't read, conisdering your primitive intelligence, I'm not surprised :lol

Considering* :Sparks:

 

[Genyūmaru1]

1. Counter by sensing.
2. Won't work on Hashi.
3. Only hope but he probably dies before that comes out.
4. Come on now, let's be serious.

1. You can't counter Tsukuyomi by sensing :lol How do you counter near instant? Hashirama has no idea what Itachi can do bruh. Not to mention Itachi can imbue his crows with all of his Sharingan techniques. One look @ the dozens of crows Itachi can summon, and its over.
2. Izanami works on anyone lol..
3. What do you mean before it comes out? :lol the crow is a manifestation of Itachi's chakra. Shisui's KA technique can be used instantly.
4. Do you know what reality simulation Genjutsu is? If not google Owarij's thread on it, and you'll see why Ephemeral is broken.

 

[Dantee]

Been here since 2012 Dantard

Lol and I've been here since 2009* :th:

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

18 pages, amazing :elmo:

 

[KingHashirama]

The definition of an evolved Sharingan is what Hagoromo is. Logically, if the Sharingan descended from him, his Rinnegan has it's capacities. Either way, if the RINNEGAN CAN UNDO INFINITE TSUKUYOMI, why wouldn't it be able to counter regular Tsukuyomi?

That is false. Hagoromo was born with the chakra of the rinnegan, which as we know to be the combination of indra + Ashura, so why would he start with the sharingan and evolve into the rinnegan?? The sharingan did not descend from him, it descends from Indra (the first person to bear the sharingan and if you're gonna use the whole "but he was indra's father so it descends from him".. well then it doesn't descend from him, it descends from Kaguya.. even more it descends from the God Tree, where all chakra descends from) . The sharingan and the rinnegan are two completely different dojoutsus, with 2 completely different chakras.

Hagoromo's chakra = Indra + Ashura's aka making a totally different chakra known as Hagoromo's chakra. That doesn't mean Indra's chakra is Hagoromo's chakra.. lol. Or Ashura's chakra is Hagoromo's chakra.



I never said Hagoromo can't beat Tsukyumi (a genjutsu powered by a completely inferior chakra to his).. I just asked you the question, since your logic of "only uchiha blood/sharingan" can break the Tsukuyomi is flawed..

KA is a oneshot technique, and far surpasses Shisui or Danzo's capacity yet it still initially ONE SHOTS. Foh with your fanfic.

Far surpasses Shisui.. how so?? shisui's eyes are one of the most powerful in the Naruto-verse...

 

[Berkenstiel]

1. Counter by sensing.
2. Won't work on Hashi.
3. Only hope but he probably dies before that comes out.
4. Come on now, let's be serious.

1.Sensing=/= Countering
2.Izanami can be triggered by any arbitrary moment for pointers. Even if he breaks it its enough time to totsukablitz
3. koto can be delivered at the start tbh through dusk crow genjutsu and Crow can KA him from a distance
4. valid and kasegui no jutsu more so

 

[ComplexCity]

Considering* :Sparks:

Low tier trolling I see? :Sparks:

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Da basis for Oh So Flawless Logic

 

[Dantee]

Low tier trolling I see? :Sparks:

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Whose trolling :Sparks: Itachi > Hashirama.

 

[ComplexCity]

Lol and I've been here since 2009* :th:

So you've been trolling this forum for 7 years? That's a real exciting life you got there :lol

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Btw we have a new derp emote, elmo :elmo:

 

[Genyūmaru1]

That is false. Hagoromo was born with the chakra of the rinnegan, which as we know to be the combination of indra + Ashura. The sharingan did not descend from him, it descends from Indra (the first person to bear the sharingan). The sharingan and the rinnegan are two completely different dojoutsus, with 2 completely different chakras.

Hagoromo's chakra = Indra + Ashura's aka making a totally different chakra known as Hagoromo's chakra. That doesn't mean Indra's chakra is Hagoromo's chakra.. lol. Or Ashura's chakra is Hagoromo's chakra.



I never said Hagoromo can't beat Tsukyumi (a genjutsu powered by a completely inferior chakra to his).. I just asked you the question, since your logic of "only uchiha blood/sharingan" can break the Tsukuyomi is flawed..

:lol The rinnegan is the Sharingan bruh. The Rinnegan has every technique the Sharingan does, all it takes is the capacity to unlock them. Why do you think when Sasuke went from Sharingan to Rinnegan he still had his Sharingan techniques?

Nagato couldn't use the Sharingan techniques because he hadn't had the chance to practice with them. If he'd studied under the Sharingan, I'm positive Nagato would have been able to use techniques in regards to the Sharingan.

Not that any of that matters. What matters is that you're denying that the Sharingan came from the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan is the Sharingan.

With that Hagoromo is able to break Tsukuyomi because not only does he have Indra blood (he is his father after all), he has the Rinnegan which is the Sharingan.

 

[Dantee]

So you've been trolling this forum for 7 years? That's a real exciting life you got there :lol

The sad thing is you sound jealous

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ITachi beats Hashi.

 

[Dannie]

Lol, I'm just eating this Papa Johns Pizza. You guys keep arguing though.

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Congrats on a hot thread tho OP.

 

[Claymantan]

I never said Hagoromo can't beat Tsukyumi (a genjutsu powered by a completely inferior chakra to his).. I just asked you the question, since your logic of "only uchiha blood/sharingan" can break the Tsukuyomi is flawed..

My argument was always that people who are progenitors of Uchiha blood or the Sharingan also qualify.

I don't know how you think Kaguya had a Rinne Sharingan, Indra has a Sharingan, but it just skipped Hagoromo. Clearly Hagoromo's Rinnegan still had the traits of the Sharingan to pass down.

 

[KingHashirama]

My argument was always that people who are progenitors of Uchiha blood or the Sharingan also qualify.

Then that is false. Unless you have a statement from an omnipotent character...


As I said before, you have a statement from Itachi Uchiha.. who has never faced Hashirama or anyone on his calibur.. He has never gone against those wwho have mastered the pinnacle of chakra control..

And you do understand, why its easier for the sharingan to break genjutsu right?? And why Sharingan users are the masters of genjutsu right?

What Itachi said, is not completely false, but sadly its not simply limited to that.

 

[KingHashirama]

:lol The rinnegan is the Sharingan bruh.

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Alright i'm done, I can't take more of your stupidity dude. Next it'll be Byakugan and the sharingan are the same.


Or the bone KKG and Mokuton are the same, since they all come from the god tree.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

The sad thing is you sound jealous

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ITachi beats Hashi.

:elmo: Itachi shits on Hashi. Nothing, but facts.

My argument was always that people who are progenitors of Uchiha blood or the Sharingan also qualify.

I don't know how you think Kaguya had a Rinne Sharingan, Indra has a Sharingan, but it just skipped Hagoromo. Clearly Hagoromo's Rinnegan still had the traits of the Sharingan to pass down.

They do qualify. I don't even know why you're duking it out with him fam. It's clearly obvious that anyone who gave birth to the Uchiha clans descendant Indra has all of the qualifications to break Tsukuyomi.

 

[Claymantan]

Then that is false. Unless you have a statement from an omnipotent character...


As I said before, you have a statement from Itachi Uchiha.. who has never faced Hashirama or anyone on his calibur.. He has never gone against those wwho have mastered the pinnacle of chakra control..

And you do understand, why its easier for the sharingan to break genjutsu right?? And why Sharingan users are the masters of genjutsu right??

It is true by definition

The progenitor of the Uchiha is Indra

The progenitor of Indra is Hagoromo

The progenitor of Hagoromo is Kaguya

All can counter Tsukuyomi

There are no other progenitors of the Uchiha clan

The Sharingan is a devolved Rinnegan by definition, dear God

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They do qualify. I don't even know why you're duking it out with him fam. It's clearly obvious that anyone who gave birth to the Uchiha clans descendant Indra has all of the qualifications to break Tsukuyomi.

For the 47 people viewing this thread XD

 

[ComplexCity]

Whose trolling :Sparks: Itachi > Hashirama.

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