How does Hashirama counter Tsukuyomi?

[Genyūmaru1]

True, however infinite darkness is a genjutsu. I would argue Itachi can drop it using hevean and earth change.
But that would turn this into whose a better genjutus user Itachi or Hashi

No question Itachi is better.

 

[BLAZE]

Nah he can't. Itachi reverses Genjutsu seen here:

ain't doing it without eyesight :lol

 

[Claymantan]

Nah he can't. Itachi reverses Genjutsu seen here:

Genjutsu at Itachi-level has no effect on Itachi

(I'm not being serious, that Databook scan kills me tho)

 

[Xāvî1]

He doesn't...Itachi is called the Solo King for a reason. No one can mess with him, if they do though, they dont live to see tomorrow.

 

[Remedy]

The limits were placed . Uchiha and Sharingan+. Tsukuyomi is just hax accept the manga facts please.
Again I ask for scans^^

Right, just as the limits were placed for susanoo, having Tysukuyomi + Amaterasu. Place me scan of Tysukuyomi working on god teirs, then your arguement would have some merit, otherwise you're just defending recton in a ill-defined manga. A better thread would be why didn't Itachi just take out the Akatsuki if he is that strong.

 

[King Of Pop]

lol reading this thread with dem popcorns..

 

[Claymantan]

Right, just as the limits were placed for susanoo, having Tysukuyomi + Amaterasu. Place me scan of Tysukuyomi working on god teirs, then your arguement would have some merit, otherwise you're just defending recton in a ill-defined manga. A better thread would be why didn't Itachi just take out the Akatsuki if he is that strong.

Because "Itachi is the solo king" actually means "Itachi is the solo king (in 1v1 matches)."

Obviously he can't spam Tsuku. Also, Tobi is in Akatsuki.

Y'all are deflecting the argument

 

[Genyūmaru1]

ain't doing it without eyesight :lol

Thing is. Sharingan can see an inviduals chakra, even through objects:

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I'd basically be like nightvision when you think about it. Hashirama would be this huge blue chakra, while everything else is dark.

Genjutsu at Itachi-level has no effect on Itachi

(I'm not being serious, that Databook scan kills me tho)

Only Itachi, can solo Itachi.

 

[BLAZE]

True, however infinite darkness is a genjutsu. I would argue Itachi can drop it using hevean and earth change.
But that would turn this into whose a better genjutus user Itachi or Hashi

1.He can't considering he would be robbed from eyesight once jutsu is casted.Itachi copies the genjutsu and casts it after it has been casted in heaven and earth change
2.Hashirama uses senjutsu it will increases the potency of genjutsu thus he has advantage
3.Even if bothh loses their eyesight hashirama has sensing while Itachi will lose good portion of his arsenal

 

[Simbv]

Nah I don't care for this debate honestly. Itachi can't beat Hashi

Some people would think otherwise.

 

[Berkenstiel]

Right, just as the limits were placed for susanoo, having Tysukuyomi + Amaterasu. Place me scan of Tysukuyomi working on god teirs, then your arguement would have some merit, otherwise you're just defending recton in a ill-defined manga. A better thread would be why didn't Itachi just take out the Akatsuki if he is that strong.

Lol We ask for to show us scans of tsukuyomi being rectoned and theres nothing. Tsukuyomi + Amaterasu was clearly rectoned so idk why your bringing it up. As for your lats point would you read a manga thats just on chapter long.

 

[ComplexCity]

Some people would think otherwise.

I mean I'm pretty sure these people also believe Yata is invincible despite Yata having virtually no feats...

Whatcha gonna do? :lol

 

[Claymantan]

As for your lats point would you read a manga thats just on chapter long.

There's actually a more obvious reason, the dude forgot that Tobi is in Akatsuki XD

These Hashi fans don't know manga

 

[Genyūmaru1]

So like. When are we getting them scans that imply Hashirama can break Tsukuyomi.

 

[BLAZE]

Thing is. Sharingan can see an inviduals chakra, even through objects:

I'd basically be like nightvision when you think about it. Hashirama would be this huge blue chakra, while everything else is dark.
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Are you reading what i said man :| He is robbed from his eyesight tangling against someone who is far superior in chakra reserve and potency :|
It won't end well for Itachi :|

and if Itachi robs hashi's eyesight Your Tsukuyomi argument itself dies :|

 

[Remedy]

They keep using this argument of "so even godtier characters can't break out of Tsukuyomi? clearly your argument is bad" but the godtier characters all have Uchiha blood/Sharingans XD (or are progenitors of Uchiha blood)

Biggest example of Hashifans not understanding the manga on a fundamental level

Understand the manga on a fundamental level?..Biggest joke. I agree with you when it comes to the manga's overall philosophical message, but the manga is vague and not penciled in when it comes to details like this, so it baffles me to defend the most imprecise plot points, its like arguing against a onesided truth never told. You don't necessarily have to be a Hashifap to realize these things.

 

[Remedy]

There's actually a more obvious reason, the dude forgot that Tobi is in Akatsuki XD

These Hashi fans don't know manga

Try telling a Itachi fan Tobi can break Tysukuyomi.

 

[Berkenstiel]

1.He can't considering he would be robbed from eyesight once jutsu is casted.Itachi copies the genjutsu and casts it after it has been casted in heaven and earth change
2.Hashirama uses senjutsu it will increases the potency of genjutsu thus he has advantage
3.Even if bothh loses their eyesight hashirama has sensing while Itachi will lose good portion of his arsenal

Not necessarily since the sharigan can see chakra. If the genjutsu is rebounded itachi would be able to see in it. As Hashi can see when hes used it. Like the copy function of the sharingan lets them memorize hand seals and encryption of the jutsu

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Are you reading what i said man :| He is robbed from his eyesight tangling against someone who is far superior in chakra reserve and potency :|
It won't end well for Itachi :|

and if Itachi robs hashi's eyesight Your Tsukuyomi argument itself dies :|

Listen lol. The Sharingan allows the user to see the color of chakra even through objects. Hashirama has chakra, as does any ninja. Itachi due to the Sharingan being able to see the chakra of others will not be robbed of eyesight. Simple.

And with being able to see through the darkness, because of the Sharingan's perceptive ability Itachi would be able to reverse/cancel the technique.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Try telling a Itachi fan Tobi can break Tysukuyomi.

Obito can break Tsukuyomi.. He has the requirements..