How does hashi beat these people?

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Doesn't matter. Jinton is comprised of fire but its not weak to water, same with Lava Release.

Doesn't even null anything else I said.



Its the Raikage's Hell Stab, forgot that you already stated you don't know Japanese names of jutsu.
Ok...you got me there. Ill give you that one. However I dont see why lava wouldnt be weak against water. But again...I get your point.
 

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Hashirama is know as the "Strongest Shinobi."

Which means he is the strongest shinobi.

The 3rd Raikage was know as the "Strongest Shield".

Which means he has the strongest defense. NO KNOWN ATTACK BESIDES HIS OWN WAS ABLE TO DAMAGE HIM.
 

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Again.... Earth+Water=Wood. Earth>>>>Lightning.
Seriously dude,that theory doesn't work that way just because two elements mix up to form another doesn't mean they have the same traits with their primary elements its a total new element on its own and based on the raikage's hard skin,his skin being inpenetrable doesn't mean that he doesn't feel pain.8 tails wasn't able to hurt his skin but the raikage blackedout after the fight cause he got beat up pretty bad,he died after fighting an army so that alone shows that he does feel being so imagine what will happen when he gets hit by hashi's senjutsu statue,his skin would be fine but I bet his insides would be like squashed tomato
 

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Seriously dude,that theory doesn't work that way just because two elements mix up to form another doesn't mean they have the same traits with their primary elements its a total new element on its own and based on the raikage's hard skin,his skin being inpenetrable doesn't mean that he doesn't feel pain.8 tails wasn't able to hurt his skin but the raikage blackedout after the fight cause he got beat up pretty bad,he died after fighting an army so that alone shows that he does feel being so imagine what will happen when he gets hit by hashi's njutsu statue,his skin would be fine but I bet his insides would be like squashed tomato
lol...squashed tomato. But I already admitted I lost on that arguement.
 

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Who said he is the fastest ninja ever?

A is faster than his father, he's father has the best defense and offensive nintaijustu.

He has no outstanding speed feats, he's just one of the fast raikages
I didnt say the fastest ever. i said one of the fastest.



Here, you see him dodging a rasenshuriken, as VERY FAST attack at point blank range.

The naruto says all the Raikages are extremely fast and he has a flashback about the 4th raikage. 2 Speed feats right there.
 

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You're a stubborn one, and I like how you stick up for your character, but he looses to Hashi. You are pretty much a fanboy and I feel like you need to know that, don't delude yourself by thinking you're not because you have completely forgotten about the 2nd Mizukage. Hashi takes both of them on no diff, chakra suppressing gates can suppress both of them at the same damn time, and don't say he's going to run away because he's not, Hashi can sprout wood from the fuking ground, he has multiple incoming attacks from all directions, he escapes hu? Not a chance. I'm sure he has other things to finish him off with, but just to match Hashi's subtle personality, he puts them to sleep with flower tree world, no way he's cutting down EVERY SINGLE tree limb before the poison takes effect. PLEASE, end this shit thread that should never have been started.
 

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I didnt say the fastest ever. i said one of the fastest.



Here, you see him dodging a rasenshuriken, as VERY FAST attack at point blank range.

The naruto says all the Raikages are extremely fast and he has a flashback about the 4th raikage. 2 Speed feats right there.
Exactly, all Raikages are incredibly fast

Only A was said to be the fastest

A couldn't avoid tree world
 

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You're a stubborn one, and I like how you stick up for your character, but he looses to Hashi. You are pretty much a fanboy and I feel like you need to know that, don't delude yourself by thinking you're not because you have completely forgotten about the 2nd Mizukage. Hashi takes both of them on no diff, chakra suppressing gates can suppress both of them at the same damn time, and don't say he's going to run away because he's not, Hashi can sprout wood from the fuking ground, he has multiple incoming attacks from all directions, he escapes hu? Not a chance. I'm sure he has other things to finish him off with, but just to match Hashi's subtle personality, he puts them to sleep with flower tree world, no way he's cutting down EVERY SINGLE tree limb before the poison takes effect. PLEASE, end this shit thread that should never have been started.
The arguments started leaning towards the raikage.

I delude myself? He solos them both with trees?

Strongest shield>mokuton. No attack hashi has can damage him.

The mizukage can also liquify himself making all of hashis jutsu useless.
 

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This is false. Mokuton surpressed tailed beasts. Not anymore chakra from my understanding. I'll need manga proof.
Sorry but you have not rationalised how 3rd raikage escapes the pollen - it is a 90% probability he is going to be focussed on avoiding the various wood attacks and not focussed the flower pollen. He realistically CANNOT plough through an entire forest that fast it is not a linear target like a wall it is all around him surrounding him for a great distance...once the pollen puts the raikage to sleep heck he can tap dance on his body if he likes -- that is more than a legitimate win. The only way i see him able to win is if he finds a way to stay airborne which I do not believe he possesses. (eg. gaara with sand)
 

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Good God u are so fanboying it up....seriously jus stop - let it go...Soundbar said it as simply as possible.
So Ooniki didn't wake up and solo flower trees?

Even so, this is all you guys have. Putting him to sleep. He will wake up unharmed and at full chakra.

The only point i'm trying to make is that I don't see any jutsu hashi has that would cause harm to the 3rd raikage or 2nd mizukage.

I never said they could beat him. I simply asked how would he beat them.
 

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Fourth Raikage is no where near his son as far as speed goes even in V1. That can be easily backed by the fact that ninjas - relevant ones anyway - came up with strategies and countered his attacks just fine. They had no trouble doing so. He also lacks V2 armour. Flower Tree World ends it right off the bat.
 
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