How does current Madara take DSM Kabuto? (real debaters only please)

[Tera Path]

Lol not crippling at all, in fact why would madara resort to genjutsu when he has much more powerful attacks that can take care of kabuto?

Genjutsu immunity is no big deal, madara has only used it once [I believe] since his revival, he doesnt need to use it against an enemy who can do very little against him.



The shockwave would blow kabuto to pieces if he transforms into water, as we've seen kabuto can be hit by physical attacks, the reason why he was able to regenerate was because the physical attacks were of low scale. A high scale physical attack like a PS shockwave would annihilate kabuto should he decide to transform or not.

This would be the same case for rinbo hengoku because the force of that attack was enough to knock back the bijuu, kabuto getting knocked by it would tear his body apart once again, liquefying is useless.



Got to mention, kabuto starting in base gets stomped. The only way he would be able to go SM is if he transformed into a sage before the fight. Kabuto wont ever get the chance to transform into a sage during the fight, so as I said base kabuto [before DSM] gets stomped.



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deal with kabuto. Kabuto can't deal with those chains with muki tensei, btw this would only work if kabuto was already a sage before the fight.



Amaterasu would've been enough to take down kabuto, but that's not the point of this thread so let's leave it.



Madara takes it, he has the same sensory abilities that kabuto has via SM sensing & he has

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attacks. He has the gedo statue, he took on sasuke while blind, & finally he can cast juubi sized katon jutsus & without the use of

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Kabuto has little to nothing on madara.

Liquefying is actually not destroying him.
It's the jutsu he got from Suigetsu, we have seen him being punched/kicked/damaged etc. while in a humanoid form.
His body part that has been hit just pretty much turns to water and solidifies back, so Taijutsu is still useless.

Yeah the Genjutsu part is stupid anyways, he barely uses Genjutsu.
As far as we have seen, manga scans say that the chakra chains only subdue/absorb Bijuu's chakra, not humans.

I'm pretty sure that Kabuto can just dodge Amaterasu too.
And considering that Kabuto has the same power as Juugo (sage transformation). i don't even see Kabuto not being in DSM, ever, kind of like Itachi never turning off his sharingan.
And even if he started in base mode he could easily buy enough time with his snakes.

Kabuto also has Kimimaro's KKG in him, which kind of gives him an edge in Taijutsu.
Any high damage physical attack would probably destroy him though.

So unless Madara uses some extremely high scaled fire attack (bigger than what we have already seen) it probably wouldn't do much, since has can just use Muki Tensei on the ground.

I honestly don't see Madara winning, nor do i see Kabuto winning.
For me, this is just who ever tires out first, which is a tough choice because Madara is a chakra beast, and Kabuto also has a lot of chakra, which he only uses from sage mode, but eventually of course his other chakra to mold together with the nature energy would also run out...........

No one has said Edo Tensei yet but i'm taking that out of the list because it's not really a 1v1 anymore.
Kabuto doesn't really have any finishing/damaging moves........

I say it's a tie just because Kabuto has too many evasive abilities.

 

[kral]

madara. black rods to imobilize him then suck out his sage chakra n bam hes dead. just that simple.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Kabuto vs Madara is not a matchup/fight, Kabuto will get slaughtered.
he has nothing on Madara (PS + Rinnegan are too overwhelming) and what exactly will Kabuto do to take him down ?? unless you're suggesting that all he will do is dodge/use water transformation :| what summon Manda ?? PS would split Manda in half.

i'll make it simple, remember how Kabuto spoke to Madara through Muu, he himself admitted that Madara is the closest thing to the Sage and asked him to showoff that power with sparkling eyes like a kid watching his favorite superhero so you can say Kabuto answered this for you :yeah: yep ................. this is a weird matchup.

 

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[xXxSasuke]

Before I get this thread started, there are 2 things I want to say:

1. NO WANKING. By that I also mean don't come in here and just say £madara stomps, no diff.£

2. Please also use manga proof. Im honestly having a tough time seeing who takes this fight and good reason will away my opinion.

Let's get started.

Madara. Well...he's madara.
Meteorites, colossal susannos, secret rinnegan jutsus....hashis sm....I think his feats speak for themselves. But since we've more recently seen his abilites, I want to discuss kabuto.

The reason im stumped about this match up is HOW madara would defeat him. Since it's been a while, I'll discuss some of his abilities I could potentially see giving madara trouble.

1. Visual genjutsu immunity. This has to be a pretty big advantage. I mean...all uchihas are killers with Thur genjutsu but to have it be completely useless is crippling.

2. Immunity to physical attacks. Obviously, there won't be alot of taijutsu in this fight, but im mentioning this for another reason....Perfect Susanoo. Can he tank it with water transformation??

3. Sensory abilites. Being a sage, also with the ability to automatically gather sage chakra, his sensory abilites are top notch. Add in this snakes, which itachi commented knew exactly what they were doing, nothing is going unnoticed by kabuto.

These 3 things are the main reason I haven't decided yet.

I thought at one point madara could just 1 shot him with the meteor but a logical counter for that would be Sage Art: Inorganic Reincarnation, which brings to life any inorganic object, like earth (the ground), fill it with sage chakra and manipulate it. To achieve this, he could simply send one of his snakes to make contact.

I know Madara is in bawse mode right now, but without Izanami, I see kabuto soloing the uchiha bros.

Who takes this and why?

WELL lets start off by kabuto never had powers unless you count chakra disection blade.... he more or less wanted to be a wanna be orochimaru. succeeded for a short time, became obsessed with the uchiha... like orochimaru, underestimated the uchiha because he was so full of himself i mean orochimaru. Madara just overall was and is a better villain than kabuto, so really there was almost no comparison. Tobi still outclasses both in power unless madara becomes judara the ten tail jinchuriki (hope not that would be cheesy seeing as everyones F***ed now thanks to "become Sage of six paths No jutsu"

Technically madaras transformation will be stronger because from the looks of it, he has more of the ninetails energy this time (instead of just kin/jin bros, and he also may snatch the 8tails from killer bee aswell.