How does any of this make any sense?
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altaire uchiha
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Naruto was able to cut through Obito and essentially pull the tailed beast out with a combination of Sage energy and the Chakra he was given by the tailed beast. So when the chakra in the sword interacted with Obito, the tailed beast followed the movement of their chakra and came out as the sword went through him. I dont see how that doesnt make sense. There was a reason they gave him portions of their chakra, it was to save them.
Like people said, Gaara still has a connection to Shikaku, being a formal jin, so he still has residual chakra from the shikaku that he can make the connection and pull him out. the sand is a part of both him and shikaku, why wouldnt it be the object he used to interact with. Now once hes out, I cant say for sure if shikaku will go back into Gaara or not.
Naruto's ability to transfer chakra so well has already been explained.
altaire uchiha
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No I didnt ask for strength issues, whatever that means, i said its illogical, it doesnt make rational sense in anyway. Not that it needs to be rational, but within the bounds of the story it should be. Kishis a grown man. Maybe you just dont understand my words, english is probably your second laguage, yunno, you being Japanese and all (u_u)
Lol, ok, yes. English is my second language, but I quite understand it. And yes, I have Japanese blood running in my veins as well, albeit I rather not put these trivial things on topic, since they are not a matter of your concern.
Do you want a rational explanation of what happened, yes? I can sincerily say that no one in this forum is able to put a full explanation for all your question since there are a lot of holes that were not explained in the source, but I'll explain as much as I can.
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Fact #1: Naruto got the trust of 7 of 9 Bijuus (the strongest one included)
Fact #2: Uchiha are mentally unstable.
Fact #3: After Obito became Jinchuuriki, Juubi was on control until Obito came on senses.
Fact #4: Obito's Will was put under questioning. He tried to use Nonuboko Sword, the Will of the Sage, against Sasuke and Naruto. When the sword broke, his doubts came to surface, and Naruto, Sasuke and K11 destroyed Obito's defense.
Fact #5: The Uchiha are arrogant by nature. They even created Izanami to stop the arrogance of the use of Izanagi.
Fact #6: (And I expected someone like you would doubt this) The chapter "Nine names" (572) was not pure ornament. Naruto got a tremendous power in this chapter, and Tobi noticed it. He didn't know Naruto gained a "Link" with the Tailed beasts, a link of trust, where Naruto wouldn't need to control the beasts to use their power, but it seems Madara noticed it.
Fact #7: Both Gaara and Bee had a Link with their own beasts, since they knew their beasts name.
Conclusion: Obito was trying to control the tailed beasts in his body using his own will, and when his will got on doubt his own control got nullflied. Obito was not in good terms with the tailed beasts, that's all.
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Honord Sage
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The power that the Tail Beast gave Naruto is how, Naruto is doing to Obito what Naruto did to Kurama when He first took Kurama chakra for Himself or are You forgetting The Great Toad Sage said Naruto is the Child of Prophecy. To Naruto all Paths are Open not just 6.
altaire uchiha
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I understand that thats what the explanation is given in the book, its just illogical and forced. It doesnt feel congruous with the rest of the manga, it feels thrown in out of nowhere just because kishi doesnt know how or care to think anything through anymore. I mean the things that happened in this book used to make sense within the books logic. Therre was some kind of structure to how everything worked, where you could kind of rationalize what is possible and what isnt based of the rules set up in the beginning. Now theres all this made up crap like if you say a word too many times jutsu and it points up the fickle nature of Kishi's construction. Its just disappointing that its gotten this bad, this is suppposed to be the most interesting part of the book, where everything starts to make sense and be rectified, and I'm getting to the point where I dont want to read anymore, I just want it to be over so I can say I finished the manga. Ive been reading it too long to just say forget it, and there were times where this book just amazed me, and for those times I think I want to finish it. Im not even interested in Naruto and Sasukes resolution anymore, its just not interesting.
Then the main problem here is not about being rational (since I gave the most rational answer I could using some events that took place on the manga)... it is a thing of taste. Your problem is not how logic open doors to new answers inside the manga, it is about how visible (or tangible) is the traced path to align causes and effects. Now that I understand better, your objection is fully understandeable... but sadly, I don't agree, since I like the way it is going.
Kishimoto is basing his work on a lot of cultures, and that gives new perspectives. Even in real world I can't understand how some events happens, that's what makes life so interesting.
For instance, who knew mermaids really existed?
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****ed up. I didn't know some myths could really be true, or maybe it's an USO.
Did you know also the third Newton's principle was hacked? No one could predict that, but it's true!
Well, **** the logic, even real world has some of these curious things rules.
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Sarutobi Sasuke
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lol...Sorry for going off topic but that mermaid documentary is fake, as in officially fake. They call it a mock-u-mentary or something.
Anyway, I get what the other guy is trying to say. The "laws" of Kishi's Narutoverse used to be relatively neat and tidy... and logical. And that made it possible to confidently produce predictions by means of deductive reasoning, since everything was so well thought out and structured. And that was lot of fun. But now we can't do that anymore since lately Kishi's been adding a crap load of new "laws", and exceptions to these "laws", to the Narutoverse.