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What type of message do you think the SS relationship sends?

what type of chick throws their friends and family under the bus TWICE for a guy that consistently puts them down and tries to kill them MULTIPLE TIMES???? What do you guys think of the message of the series after seeing chapter 700 and seeing the scan below??? What type of message do you think the SS relationship sends???


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A man's purpose is more important than his woman. Sasuke is on that real shit.
 

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For a guy that consistently puts them down and tries to kill them???? This is by no means a bashing thread, I'd sincerely like to know how someone can be so myopic and closed minded. After reading chapter the manga up to chapter 699 I assumed part of the premise of naruto was acknowledging that establishing a bond with someone isn't limited to this lovey dovey lets hold hands and sing kumbaya relationship, that what really makes a relationship a relationship or a bond a bond is being able to value someone as they choose to be without the promotion of a personal agenda. However.....then I saw this..



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What do you guys think of the message of the series after seeing chapter 700 and seeing the scan above???

I don't care much for people as well, including my family. It is much better to not involve yourself in helping or caring for others.
 

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"I shouldn't try to create bonds with useless fodder type girls who want my D, **** yall. I'm going solo dolo"
 

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Kishi's intention probably was to show that Sakura was going to understand in a way what is being alone, which was something she didn't understand as shown in the beginning of the manga, when she mocked Naruto for being alone and said that he was lucky for this.
 
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Sakura's love is like a metaphor for daffodil, the flower Sakura gave to Sasuke when he was at hospital. There's also the winter >> spring dynamics, which is another good metaphor for SS relationship.

Don't forget that Sakura tried to kill Sasuke first, and he was mean to her because he wanted to cut his bonds with Team 7 members in general, not because he didn't like her.
 

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well to be fair, it's less concerning than the message sent by twilight to female teens and obviously by 50 shades of grey to females in general...

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well to be fair, it's less concerning than the message sent by twilight to female teens and obviously by 50 shades of grey to females in general...

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Don't compare SS with Twilight or 50 shades of grey, please. Sakura at least has some independence sense and Sasuke never tried to dominate Sakura neither he was a possessive obsessed over her as Edward was to Bella.
 

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The message it says is the ultimate goal of a female is to get their crush: if he's bad, he'll eventually see the light, and if he doesn't know you exist, eventually he will.
 

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Don't compare SS with Twilight or 50 shades of grey, please. Sakura at least has some independence sense and Sasuke never tried to dominate Sakura neither he was a possessive obsessed over her as Edward was to Bella.

that's why i've said LESS concerning, still, their toxic relationship is about female submission and male domination including physical and verbal abuse.
in their case, both of them used it equally, not only the male to destroy the female ego and basically, i think Sasuke and Sakura really share some real love because Sasuke used to be a gentle person in part 1 and chapter 699 shows us he's again like he used to be.

Sasuke can be compared to a drug addict in rehab, he had issues but he's a good guy.
 

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The ultimate message is to use a guy who likes you to get the boy you want.
 

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Re: What type of message do you think the SS relationship sends?

What type of message do you think the SS relationship sends???

''Be a toy for your man.''
''Ignore and friendzone nice guys - they are beta.''
''Take examples from us and Chris Brown and Rihanna.''
''Anything can be forgiven - if he doesn't kill you, it's all good!''

I imagine something like that. That Kishi and them skills in romance...
 

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With that reading comprehension Of course its a bad message .

There should be a warning on the cover
if you are going to misinterpret this manga Don't ****ing read it

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1-sakura was talking about feeling alone if the one she love is gone Even if she has company she would still feel lonely .
How dare you feel lonely when someone dear goes away .She didn't disregard her family and friends she was just talking about the feelings of loneliness when someone leaves her.

2-ok so you post a scan of sakura saying that then talking about sakura saying that to the person who tried to kill her .

Sasuke didn't try to kill sakura and never tried to hurt her pre that scan you posted .

3-sakura was 12 years old she was still immature kid /sasuke wasn't considered evil He was just going to kill an evil man so it wasn't an evil thing for sakura to follow him at that time.

4- sakura matured later and tried to stop sasuke instead of joining him after he went evil . She tried to kill him at one point and he attacked her back but she in the end she couldn't do it .


You can make "bad message" From bob the builder with that way of reading .
 

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With that reading comprehension Of course its a bad message .


1-sakura was talking about feeling alone if the one she love is gone Even if she has company she would still feel lonely .
How dare you feel lonely when someone dear goes away .She didn't disregard her family and friends she was just talking about the feelings of loneliness when someone leaves her.

Hurrduurr durr no really?! Never mind the fact that her reason for loving him was completely unfounded. Even when she was asked why she loves sasuke didn't give an answer. Also, I would consider it complete disregard of friends and family and a complete dismissal of the personal impact they have, I would also consider it a form of undermining her other relationships. It's one thing to miss someone and another to be willing to let the role a person plays in your life to cloud your judgement to the point where you can't be cognizant of the contributions other people make.


2-ok so you post a scan of sakura saying that then talking about sakura saying that to the person who tried to kill her .

Sasuke didn't try to kill sakura and never tried to hurt her pre that scan you posted .


Doesn't change the fact that she threw her friends and family under the bus a second time in chapter 699 when he was leaving on his journey of atonement AFTER he had done all the things I mentioned and gave a half assed apology.



3-sakura was 12 years old she was still immature kid /sasuke wasn't considered evil He was just going to kill an evil man so it wasn't an evil thing for sakura to follow him at that time.

LOL itachi was an evil man??? Sasuke wasn't considered evil??? uh huh..and you wanna talk about my reading comprehension skills. Those in glass houses shouldn't cast stones. Sasuke explicitly stated "we won't be walking the same path..I'm an avenger", he was telling her he was choosing revenge over all his friends at that point the point of the scene was to convey was severing his ties with people who represented having bonds and anything positive associated with the village or team 7.
4- sakura matured later and tried to stop sasuke instead of joining him after he went evil . She tried to kill him at one point and he attacked her back but she in the end she couldn't do it .


You're forgetting the part where all she could think about during the war was whether or not he noticed her, even after he explained he'd destroy her home, her friends, and family and mentor she healed him ..unaware that he had changed his mind meaning that at the time she didn't care about what his intentions were for her home or loved ones and even so..the fact is he put her in a genjutsu in which she experienced him killing her over and over and over again. There are plenty of other times she ignored what was really important to focus on sasuke as well.

You can make "bad message" From bob the builder with that way of reading .

Are you suggesting that people omit all of the negative aspects of this asspull of a relationship and cherry pick all of the positive aspects just to hope on the SS bandwagon, because it seems like you are. Most readers are smart enough to know that this is an unhealthy relationship with a codependent,insecure, shallow individual and that this type of mindset is psychologically deleterious, unhealthy, and abnormal. It's not normal or healthy to sustain interactions with an individual who has proven themselves capable of physical or mental abuse, apology or not. Forgiving someone doesn't mean you have to become romantically involved with them or even maintain a friendship with them. It's been explicitly stated before that sasuke is self centered to the point where he doesn't care if his choices or goals harm others. It's all about him. I like sasuke as a character./..BUT...this "Relationship" is similar to that of an abuser and a domestic violence victim. Where the person feels bound by obligation to remain with the abuser because they're so enamored by the thought of "saving" or defending the them. They accept the abuser's apology hoping they'll change and believing they can fix them and that no one else understands them. That's all I can see in this "relationship".



I'm aware of your preference for Sasusaku but the purpose of this post was to evaluate the message the "relationship" sends to readers and it seems like you're just letting your emotional attachment to the pairing cloud your judgement.
 
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Re: What type of message do you think the SS relationship sends?

what type of chick throws their friends and family under the bus TWICE for a guy that consistently puts them down and tries to kill them MULTIPLE TIMES???? What do you guys think of the message of the series after seeing chapter 700 and seeing the scan below??? What type of message do you think the SS relationship sends???


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And lets not forget how in Road to Ninja she was more torn up about Sasuke being into other girls than her parents being f*cking DEAD. What piece of sh*t Sakura is. I know the movie isn't canon but that's the exact type of sh*t she'd do.

Oh yea, and her sh*tting on Naruto talking about Sasuke would understand her complaints about her parents. What a delusional b*tch. All Sasuke would do is tell her to STFU about her unimportant problems....as if he gives a sh*t about her issues when he would give anything to have is parents back.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out how this chick has fans. I just don't get it. She's awful.
 

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Kishi's intention probably was to show that Sakura was going to understand in a way what is being alone, which was something she didn't understand as shown in the beginning of the manga, when she mocked Naruto for being alone and said that he was lucky for this.

Massace her entire family and clan and ask her if Sasuke being gone still makes her feel "lonely"...what a POS
 

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Re: What type of message do you think the SS relationship sends?

And lets not forget how in Road to Ninja she was more torn up about Sasuke being into other girls than her parents being f*cking DEAD. What piece of sh*t Sakura is. I know the movie isn't canon but that's the exact type of sh*t she'd do.

Oh yea, and her sh*tting on Naruto talking about Sasuke would understand her complaints about her parents. What a delusional b*tch. All Sasuke would do is tell her to STFU about her unimportant problems....as if he gives a sh*t about her issues when he would give anything to have is parents back.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out how this chick has fans. I just don't get it. She's awful.


That's exactly what I was thinking while watching the movie. I doubt sasuke would have had any sympathy..in fact I could only imagine him calling her annoying. At this point I'm sure he'd give anything to have family to complain about.
 
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You sounds like a feminist, hun.
 
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