[Discussion] How do you beat Kizaru?

[Joseph Gomes]

Kizaru is by far the most controversial character in HST. His devil fruit has polarized One Piece fandom.

The question is, how do you beat Kizaru?

Answers could be

a) He wants to be beaten, because he doesn't want to win. Nobody can beat him otherwise

b) His devil fruit is either fake, or light is much slower OPverse than it in real universe

If Kizaru is indeed lightpeed, it would be impossible for Anybody to beat him in OPverse, regardless of haki. It's Kizaru's own wish that he lets others touch him (or see him)

 

[Limbo]

Kizaru doesn't lose, lose Kizarus

 

[Pirate King]

im just gonna say he doesnt really move at the speed of light, he can just control light itself

 

[Hexuze]

There's a charge up time when he travels at the speed of light. Plus his biggest weakness is CoO, that's how Rayleigh fought with him and probably why Kizaru stopped when Ben Beckman told him to. Hes actually the weakest pre-TS admiral IMO.

 

[Prog]

He is only light speed in his light form, so a fast person with great CoO should be able to defeat him. I think.

 

[TheHokage]

EoS Sanji beats him.

 

[Olorin]

you Haki stomp him into the ground ofc

I am not up to explaining how you are wrong for the umphth time so I'll condense it: 1. no human has a brain that is fast enough to just keep up with light 2. he isn't light all the time, ie he has to turn into light :/

 

[Kingu]

He may be the fastest guy in OP but he is mentally slow af. A lucky hit fwith Haki would do the trick.

 

[Bogard]

Oh it's this Kizaru wanker again Lol. Well if old Rayleigh after decades of inactivity can keep up with his movement speed fine, i don't think it's a problem for top tier characters

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Oh it's this Kizaru wanker again Lol. Well if old Rayleigh after decades of inactivity can keep up with his movement speed fine, i don't think it's a problem for top tier characters

I am not wanking Kizaru. His powers contradict the properties of light itself. Either OPverse has no actual lightspeed, or kizaru doesnt want to annihilate all non-logia pirates on purpose

Nobody should be able to perceive his movement even with haki. Kizaru doesnt need to have good reaction if he's lightspeed. He can keep his distance and launch surprise attacks anytime

This whole charging before attacking is pure BS.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Honestly if you don't restrict him no one... He would easily be BPL...

 

[Olorin]

I am not wanking Kizaru. His powers contradict the properties of light itself. Either OPverse has no actual lightspeed, or kizaru doesnt want to annihilate all non-logia pirates on purpose

Nobody should be able to perceive his movement even with haki. Kizaru doesnt need to have good reaction if he's lightspeed. He can keep his distance and launch surprise attacks anytime

This whole charging before attacking is pure BS.

You can be able to travel at 3x the speed of light but that won't help you one bit if your brain can't keep up, you'd just end up smashing into everything and die or end up on the other side of the world ... or in space

Kizaru needs to: 1. Predetermine a rout he will travel and 2. Turn his body into light so he can travel that fast ... Both of those actions TAKE TIME which makes it possible to counter it

And the second time he wants to move at the speed of light HE NEEDS TO REPEAT THE PROCES ALL OVER AGAIN

Or in other words REALISTICALLY THE SPEED OF LIGHT ISNT AS GREAT AS YOU THINK

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

You can be able to travel at 3x the speed of light but that won't help you one bit if your brain can't keep up, you'd just end up smashing into everything and die or end up on the other side of the world ... or in space

Kizaru needs to: 1. Predetermine a rout he will travel and 2. Turn his body into light so he can travel that fast ... Both of those actions TAKE TIME which makes it possible to counter it

And the second time he wants to move at the speed of light HE NEEDS TO REPEAT THE PROCES ALL OVER AGAIN

Or in other words REALISTICALLY THE SPEED OF LIGHT ISNT AS GREAT AS YOU THINK

.../thread

 

[Zeta42]

Blackbeard sucks him in.

 

[David1996]

Speed means nothing infront of CoA & CoO.

 

[Zeta42]

Speed means nothing infront of CoA & CoO.

CoO didn't help Boa sisters against Luffy in Gear 2nd.

 

[Anduril]

He has eaten the pika pika no mi. Which mean shine. Also if you use a glass he will be reflected!

 

[Glad Of War]

Kizaru moving in lightspeed is just Hyperbole.

 

[VongolaX]

With sea prism bullets....

With a good enough Haki you can increase the bullets speed.

 

[Hexuze]

CoO didn't help Boa sisters against Luffy in Gear 2nd.

Maybe they were still new to CoO. Someone like Rayleigh had years of experience in CoO/CoA.