How do republicans help black people?

[Yeah right]

To be clear, both parties don’t help descendent of slaves black people much. But I still think democrats are more closer to helping black people by and large.

To prove some point, make sure you don’t bring up Republicans freed the slaves. That has been debunked already.


So it’s 2018. How do conservative/republican policies help African Americans who are actual descendants of slavery?


For some thought experiments. Which party would favor banks to be forced to give loans to African Americans? Or have them have access to resources that other people have through regulations and watchdog groups.

Also, why would cuts in welfare help black people?

 

[Lightbringer]

They don't, like at all.

I agree with your first statement that Democrats aren't doing much either, but Democrats do at least help even if it's the bare minimum, but that's only the establishment we're talking about. The low black unemployment rate which Trump is trying to take credit for was actually through the efforts of Obama's economic policies after the Great Recession.

There are a lot of new progressive candidates and politicians which are seeking to aid or are currently taking the initiative to helping minority groups both indirectly and directly on a more local level.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

The democratic Republican Party that was formed by Jefferson shortly after the colonist gained their independence later became the Democratic Party of today.
Everything else are just rhetorical questions.

 

[Yeah right]

The democratic Republican Party that was formed by Jefferson shortly after the colonist gained their independence later became the Democratic Party of today.
Everything else are just rhetorical questions.

Thanks for the history lesson.

But how does Trump’s party help black people as a whole? That’s not rhetorical. It kinda has a huge impact on a community that is still disenfranchised.

 

[Melanin]

They don't, like at all.

I agree with your first statement that Democrats aren't doing much either, but Democrats do at least help even if it's the bare minimum, but that's only the establishment we're talking about. The low black unemployment rate which Trump is trying to take credit for was actually through the efforts of Obama's economic policies after the Great Recession.

There are a lot of new progressive candidates and politicians which are seeking to aid or are currently taking the initiative to helping minority groups both indirectly and directly on a more local level.

Yup, the political system or class has failed the black community.

 

[uhmusddy]

Only thing I ever heard claimed was them being pro small businesses and that it helps because a lot of black people are striving to start their own businesses now a days


but that’s just a reach, not an actual initiative with created intentions to help the black community

 

[The Necromancer]

The democratic Republican Party that was formed by Jefferson shortly after the colonist gained their independence later became the Democratic Party of today.
Everything else are just rhetorical questions.

The Republican and Democratic parties also swapped platforms.

 

[Yeah right]

Only thing I ever heard claimed was them being pro small businesses and that it helps because a lot of black people are striving to start their own businesses now a days


but that’s just a reach, not an actual initiative with created intentions to help the black community

If Republicans would actually support small business I would they they could useful. But, how does a new store compete with Amazon?

To be fair, Trump for a second was trying to take down Amazon. But that was because his friends were losing money. Also, the age of small business are over.

What small business will survive today?

 

[00Rinne]

I'm not sure how they're helping but the demoncrats cant stand our guts an they've showed it since they've had power that we give them with no-thing to show for it but hope & broken down neighborhoods..
Just keep hoping them demons care an my people will stay on the plantation they despise so much..

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If the rebloodicans haven't done anything it's because the demoncrats have always had control/power through our votes an ignorance of politics..
They race bait because it works for their plan.. Look how we're constantly blaming some1 else for problems that can easily be solved

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S O T U speech Trump talked about uniting the country, not red or blue but just people & the "leaders" of the people we vote for sat on their hands an look down upon the black populace while the president is looking str8 at them..

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Disrespectful bastards

If we want some1 to keep blaming then a mirror is usually not far, look in it..

 

[The Necromancer]

I'm not sure how they're helping but the demoncrats cant stand our guts an they've showed it since they've had power that we give them with no-thing to show for it but hope & broken down neighborhoods..
Just keep hoping them demons care an my people will stay on the plantation they despise so much..

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If the rebloodicans haven't done anything it's because the demoncrats have always had control/power through our votes an ignorance of politics..
They race bait because it works for their plan.. Look how we're constantly blaming some1 else for problems that can easily be solved

Spoiler

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S O T U speech Trump talked about uniting the country, not red or blue but just people & the "leaders" of the people we vote for sat on their hands an look down upon the black populace while the president is looking str8 at them..

Spoiler

Disrespectful bastards

If we want some1 to keep blaming then a mirror is usually not far, look in it..

Wow you could not be dumber.

 

[Penguin]

Both parties really don't do much for anyone, so ya there is that

 

[Onii Chan]

No one gives two shits about decedents of slaves, everyone who was actually a slave is dead now so who even cares about that era anymore? The only people who reference that era anymore are either: Historians, Guilt trippers, or Attention whores. You don't see me going around and yelling in the streets '' how dare this kingdom back in the medieval era kill my family way back when, i deserve retribution and thus more rights than the average man! '' because i'd be in the psych ward before 12.

 

[Lightbringer]

No one gives two shits about decedents of slaves, everyone who was actually a slave is dead now so who even cares about that era anymore? The only people who reference that era anymore are either: Historians, Guilt trippers, or Attention whores. You don't see me going around and yelling in the streets '' how dare this kingdom back in the medieval era kill my family way back when, i deserve retribution and thus more rights than the average man! '' because i'd be in the psych ward before 12.

Except the ramifications of slavery are still felt today by the black community. Slavery may have ended hundreds of years ago, but then you had Jim Crow and groups like the KKK which terrorized and killed African Americans. Two of the most prominent black activists were assassinated (Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X) and coincidentally, JFK, who was trying to end Jim Crow. Black people didn't even get a right to vote up until 1965 and even still there are states that deliberately try to suppress their right to vote, such as Alabama.

After that, you had the war on drugs, which former Nixon officials said was mainly to target the black community and hippies which is still happening today. Blacks and whites consume marijuana at the same regularity, yet blacks are arrested at a rate 3.7x more than whites for possessing marijuana.

You also have racial stereotypes where political commentators and the media always like to portray blacks as uncultured and thuggish. They cry about how rap music is vulgar and a bad influence, meanwhile there are countless white musicians that are held in high esteem by those same critics that have made vulgar songs, including musicians like Elvis.

Republicans love to cry about showing respect to the President, yet when Obama was in office, there was no shortage of derogatory terms and attempts to paint Obama as a Kenyan and a radical Muslim. The irony is that Trump was at the head of the birther movement which tried to delegitimize Obama's presidency by saying he was not born in the U.S.

That doesn't sound like equality to me.

 

[Yeah right]

No one gives two shits about decedents of slaves, everyone who was actually a slave is dead now so who even cares about that era anymore? The only people who reference that era anymore are either: Historians, Guilt trippers, or Attention whores. You don't see me going around and yelling in the streets '' how dare this kingdom back in the medieval era kill my family way back when, i deserve retribution and thus more rights than the average man! '' because i'd be in the psych ward before 12.

The reason I say descendants of slaves is that, currently, liberals help everyone but them. Don’t get me wrong, everyone needs help sometimes. Affirmative action, college grants, and some other social nets go to the the people of color. Like Africans, Asians, Latin American and white women.

The African American (descendent of slave) is at the bottom. Immigrants are already ahead of black people in the United States. The DOS black, not the Nigerians or etc. so there is a difference. College educated and upper financial mobile is rare among DOS blacks but not African immigrants.

So Democrats have failed the African American community because they help everyone except the ones who were here first. I’m not black. I’m a child of an immigrant from Mexico. I will inherit a $300,000 (value expected to double in 10 years) house because my mother was able to get a mortgage. House value at the time was $98,000 so the profit is already huge. But black people for some reason have no access to buy a home like my mother did? My mothe has no education and she works at the bottom as a Nurse assistant.

Obviously something is amiss if an immigrant can make it out of poverty but a black family for some reason can’t.

I live in a state that is painted red. Probably forever. Racism is horrific sometimes. But, we are not at the bottom.

Right now I see republicans failing the black community and as the governor keeps pointing, it’s getting worse for social benefits.

 

[wanderingcactus]

I'd rather be tough on them and not provide welfare or any other assistance that we don't necessarily give to other races.

I think it is kind of insulting as welfare is like a "consolation price" for having their ancestors be mistreated.
Nor do I think they (the kids of those who suffered through the abuse) deserve any privileges from other people's misery.
I say privilege because society nowadays are more welcoming of black people and that we do not outright cast them out (pretty sure you're going to say that that it isn't the case but stop using the small percentage of their population and say it applies to the general group).

Many abuse the handouts that it became that the group is notorious for doing them. Which the ones who really do need em must suffer through the indignity. There are many who would rather act out and misbehave for the sufferings of the previous generations and I think that that is belittling them.

Giving them special privilege makes it look like they pathetic that they cannot rise up and make something for themselves. That the community do not give them the chance to improve themselves and their lives. The many who capitalize on the misfortunes of others give bad image to the black community.

I do not believe that they want the relationship to improve. I think they want it to worsen as playing the victim card implies that they have more power over the others. This also makes it bad as there are still communities who suffer skepticism due to the actions of others and they do not get the help that they need because of it.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Thanks for the history lesson.

But how does Trump’s party help black people as a whole? That’s not rhetorical. It kinda has a huge impact on a community that is still disenfranchised.

Trump’s party or the Republican Party if you will does not specifically help a specific ethnic group. It targets, help the 1 percenters people get richer/better and makes the middle class struggle to make ends meet.

So he’s not helping the black people at all, he’s helping a specific social class.

 

[Fountain]

You know what i kind of wish i was black right now, so that i could whine about Slavery all day long and receive special treatment.

It's gotta be nice being Black. You're a victim. You can't be racist. Nobody can say anything to you. And the world owes you everything.

Wow you could not be dumber.

Wow, what an insightful and original comment. That's hilarious coming from the likes of you.

 

[Yeah right]

You know what i kind of wish i was black right now, so that i could whine about Slavery all day long and receive special treatment.

It's gotta be nice being Black. You're a victim. You can't be racist. Nobody can say anything to you. And the world owes you everything.



Wow, what an insightful and original comment. That's hilarious coming from the likes of you.

I guess you don’t live near black people. Makes sense.

Black people are at the bottom at everything. All this complaints go to deaf ears.

To explain the they can’t be racist bit. Racism is discrimination that assumes you can use your power to exploit another group. It’s not just calling someone cracker. Black people cant deny whites a job. Stop them from getting a loan. Arresting them and charging them more severely. You need power to be a racist. Black people dont have that.

Here is a little case study. That white reporter who loss those advertisements. She said racist stuff before. But she was taken down by a white boy. See, Black people, especially even a NBA Star have no power. Remember when she told that dude, shut up and dribble?

Special treatment is just what you say they have. How though? Double the white unemployment. No financial gains compared to any group. Arrested harsher and charged harsher. Social benefits stolen by every person of color. Potential jobs moved away or stolen by immigrants.

You don’t want to be African American.

So Fountain. How would the Republican Party help them so they don’t have to be snowflakes anymore?????

 

[Onii Chan]

You know what i kind of wish i was black right now, so that i could whine about Slavery all day long and receive special treatment.

It's gotta be nice being Black. You're a victim. You can't be racist. Nobody can say anything to you. And the world owes you everything.



Wow, what an insightful and original comment. That's hilarious coming from the likes of you.

My ancestors were kings so does this mean i instantly deserve all the riches and special treatment from everyone i see?

 

[Lightbringer]

I'd rather be tough on them and not provide welfare or any other assistance that we don't necessarily give to other races.

Tough on them how? The Black Community still to this day are being actively discriminated against, from housing, to education, to even crime. I've mentioned this before but the rate of marijuana consumption is roughly identical between whites and blacks, yet blacks are arrest 3.7x more than whites for it. The war on drugs, from the testimony of Nixon officials, was crafted in order to target black people. We still have states that try to suppress their votes and they live in communities where there isn't any sort of investment into jobs. During the Nixon era, Black people were close to being considered a middle-class population up until both Nixon and Reagan started outsourcing jobs to China, specifically from those communities which lead to factories being shut down and the opportunity of money disappearing. So yes, they require assistance.

I think it is kind of insulting as welfare is like a "consolation price" for having their ancestors be mistreated.
Nor do I think they (the kids of those who suffered through the abuse) deserve any privileges from other people's misery.
I say privilege because society nowadays are more welcoming of black people and that we do not outright cast them out (pretty sure you're going to say that that it isn't the case but stop using the small percentage of their population and say it applies to the general group).

What's insulting is when people make up excuses for their mistreatment since the foundation of the U.S. and continue to blame the black community for their current socio-economic status.

Many abuse the handouts that it became that the group is notorious for doing them. Which the ones who really do need em must suffer through the indignity. There are many who would rather act out and misbehave for the sufferings of the previous generations and I think that that is belittling them.

That's absolutely false. Welfare mostly goes to the disabled, veterans, elderly, and people in a working household. The "welfare queen" caricature is nothing but a myth propagated by Reagan in order to get rid of the welfare program.

According to the Department of Labor statistics, welfare fraud is only prevalent in 2.67% of all cases.

Giving them special privilege makes it look like they pathetic that they cannot rise up and make something for themselves. That the community do not give them the chance to improve themselves and their lives. The many who capitalize on the misfortunes of others give bad image to the black community.

What is special privilege? They live in communities where there is no job growth, schools that get little funding, can't afford healthcare, are discriminated by police, and even now Trump's new budget cuts funding to HUD and a programs which helps poor African Americans roll into college.

I do not believe that they want the relationship to improve. I think they want it to worsen as playing the victim card implies that they have more power over the others. This also makes it bad as there are still communities who suffer skepticism due to the actions of others and they do not get the help that they need because of it.

What you believe is just your opinion, not the reality.

The few attempts in helping the black community were actually successful and have seen improvement.

@Bold: You mean like the black community?