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That Tobirama loses to Mei but Minato (alive) doesn't?. Last time I checked Minato is a somewhat improved version of Tobirama (if you're talking about FTG), almost all his attacks are close range, his best offensive feats is Rasengan, and it's not even long range, so if he's going to do anything to hurt Mei, wouldn't he need to get close to her and get caught in her acid mist?, because this is the same logic people use when debating Tobirama and Mei,even though that technique will be less effective in a open field and can easily be evaded?. at least Tobirama has Edo Tensei and he can Suiton (which can be used as a long range technique eg Suiton Suidanha). People claim that his water techniques are ''mediocre'' when compared to Mei's but they forget that in Part1 even has a watered down Edo, he was still able to use decent water scale techniques.

Anyway, that's besides the point, I feel like both Minato and Tobirama could take on and defeat Mei, but whenever I see match ups, I see stuff like Mei > Tobirama, but Minato takes her low diff.. What kind of retarded logic is that?
 

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Minato>Tobirama>Mei

Mei gets destroyed by like ever kage :l
 

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Who said that Tobirama loses to Mei? That guy is noob and base is full of noobs this days...Zzz
 

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WOw people actually think Tobirama would loose to Mei? Where was I when they said this. I would have loved to have shut them down XD

Lets see here. We know mei is good with long ranged water, acid, and lava justu....but that's about it right?

-I can see minato beating her as his Flying Thunder god allows him to close the distance in an instant for a quick defeat. He can always space time barrier her acid mist and lava away as well as her suiton.

-Tobirama not only has large scale suiton, but flying thunder god, edo tensei, and Genjutsu (Bringiner of Darkness)

I really don't see Mei winning against either of them.
 

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uh oh is this another tobirama vs minato thread


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Mei is underrated as fvck in here . Tobirama barely has any feats & Minato destroys him .
 

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dont mean to be rude but non of the females stand a chance against Tobirama.
cause kishimoto always have showed male characters more powerful than females.
 

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ignore those trolls.

tobirama beat mei with low diff

Tobirama might lose to minato.
 

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Mei is underrated as fvck in here . Tobirama barely has any feats & Minato destroys him .

Not saying Mei is weak. She is the Mizukage and a Suiton expert. For the purposes of this thread are her against other Kage level opponents (Minato and Tobirama) Kishi always makes the girls weaker than the boys. Not her fault. She could be powerful but we won't know that because the girls are always downplayed in the NV. Sad truth I know but there you have it.
 

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No , I'm tired of people saying Minato & Tobi are equals .

I take it you have nothing important to say then, you just don't like Tobirama

have a nice day :)
 

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Tobirama has 1 suiton jutsu and it shits on anything mei has ever done with suiton, this right here.

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this 1 jutsu trumps almost all other suiton jutsu's thus far in terms of offense, with this, tobirama could 1 shot large summons such as gamabunta, and could easily take out 2 or 3 ppl with it in 1 go. even worse is he can also create shadow clones and use this tech in combination with ftg, mei has nothing on him in terms of suiton. she'd more than likely lose this fight.
 
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I don't really know why you always want to compare Tobirama to Minato in every post/thread you make but to answer your question, i don't know as well. Personally i put Tobirama above Mei, but he is weaker than Minato. I don't really want to start a comparison, but all i know is that while Tobirama may have FTG, his one terribly lacks mobility without the use of prep marked. The time it takes for him to prepare them in battle already gives an opening for his opponents to kill him if they can(talking mostly about impulsive type of guys like Raikage or Sasuke). Besides this, in terms of base speed alone, Minato is faster than him. His shunshin covers great distances in an instant like we've again seen in latest chapter
 

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Tobirama's has 1 suiton jutsu and it shits on anything mei has ever done with suiton, this right here.

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this 1 jutsu trumps almost all other suiton jutsu's thus far in terms of offense, with this, tobirama could 1 shot large summons such as gamabunta, and could easily take out 2 or 3 ppl with it in 1 go. even worse is he can also create shadow clones and use this tech in combination with ftg, mei has nothing on him in terms of suiton. she'd more than likely lose this fight.

never thought i agreed with a troll but this is true. somewhat

he forgot about the suiton tobirama displayed against hiruzen.

But that feat he showed alone craps on everything mei has to offer.

He is miles ahead of her in skills and exp

ppl are just bored if there saying she has a chance
 

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I don't really know why you always want to compare Tobirama to Minato in every post/thread you make but to answer your question, i don't know as well. Personally i put Tobirama above Mei, but he is weaker than Minato. I don't really want to start a comparison, but all i know is that while Tobirama may have FTG, his one terribly lacks mobility without the use of prep marked. The time it takes for him to prepare them in battle already gives an opening for his opponents to kill him if they can(talking mostly about impulsive type of guys like Raikage or Sasuke). Besides this, in terms of base speed alone, Minato is faster than him. His shunshin covers great distances in an instant like we've again seen in latest chapter

yeah i really think tobirama and minato are one of the most evenly matched

but minato is slightly better due to feats and base speed.

Tobirama base speed has no feats that could compare.
 

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ion know... tobirama looks like a boss... mei is just a minion.
 

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I don't really know why you always want to compare Tobirama to Minato in every post/thread you make but to answer your question, i don't know as well. Personally i put Tobirama above Mei, but he is weaker than Minato. I don't really want to start a comparison, but all i know is that while Tobirama may have FTG, his one terribly lacks mobility without the use of prep marked. The time it takes for him to prepare them in battle already gives an opening for his opponents to kill him if they can(talking mostly about impulsive type of guys like Raikage or Sasuke). Besides this, in terms of base speed alone, Minato is faster than him. His shunshin covers great distances in an instant like we've again seen in latest chapter

maybe because they're quite similar justu wise?

it doesn't take long to actually make shadow clones and touch (tag) them, or have them place tags. While he's fighting himself, also nothing suggests he cannot react to the Raikage's speed, Sasuke reacted to it so why not?. Oh and let's not forget the fact that Minato was in KCM which greatly enhances ur speed, but yes you're right, Minato is actually faster than Tobirama
 
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