How do i un brainwash myself thinking that i will go to hell

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Well good for you ,but i know .

And they are normal i didn't say atheist are the only one (i didn't even mention them)
You said people who lose their faith become twisted. Who else could that mean besides Atheists/Agnostics?
 

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I just want to ask, have you read any of the books regarding religion

E.G. Bible, Torah, Qur'an, etc.

I have only read the Qur'an, so that's why I never say anything about other religions, because I don't know any better.
 

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You said people who lose their faith become twisted. Who else could that mean besides Atheists/Agnostics?

Muslims in the Middle East who become terrorists or suicide bombers, when in actuality that's a terrible thing to do, yet they say is in the name of God. She means people like that (Though, these are the extreme cases)
 

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I just want to ask, have you read any of the books regarding religion

E.G. Bible, Torah, Qur'an, etc.

I have only read the Qur'an, so that's why I never say anything about other religions, because I don't know any better.
Ive read the Bible before, but not the Quran or Torah.
 

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Muslims in the Middle East who become terrorists or suicide bombers, when in actuality that's a terrible thing to do, yet they say is in the name of God. She means people like that (Though, these are the extreme cases)

Exactly ! (not only those people though) Thanks .
 

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Just asking, in that case I have nothing I can say to you in regards to not believing in Christianity. So, why not try reading the other books to get a different perspective. Though I'm biased, I think you should read the Qur'an.

I find it logical, and it makes the most sense when I hear what scholars say because they look for deeper in meanings. YouTube some of them, it's well worth the time, regardless if you believe or not
 

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Just asking, in that case I have nothing I can say to you in regards to not believing in Christianity. So, why not try reading the other books to get a different perspective. Though I'm biased, I think you should read the Qur'an.

I find it logical, and it makes the most sense when I hear what scholars say because they look for deeper in meanings. YouTube some of them, it's well worth the time, regardless if you believe or not
Might read it later if I don't push it off, but isn't the Torah just 5 stories that are also in the Bible?
 

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Might read it later if I don't push it off, but isn't the Torah just 5 stories that are also in the Bible?

Like I said before, I've never read them, or bothered to really understand anything regarding those religions, so I don't know any better.
 

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Muslims in the Middle East who become terrorists or suicide bombers, when in actuality that's a terrible thing to do, yet they say is in the name of God. She means people like that (Though, these are the extreme cases)
But don't they have lots of faith since they die in the name of their God?
 

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But don't they have lots of faith since they die in the name of their God?

Regardless if they have "lots of faith", it's not the correct faith. They're going to Hell too (if Hell exists, we have no proof, only faith)
 

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But don't they have lots of faith since they die in the name of their God?
For some reason they came up with that from their head that in islam you will go to heaven if you do that .but in Quran and islam Their God (muslim god) absolutely forbid killing innocent people and suicide . And who ever do that will never go to heaven .
 

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Also, to clear things up. It's widely known that even if you have faith, you are not guaranteed into Heaven. I remember last Friday prayer, the person who was making the Friday Prayer (Friday Prayers require someone to lead also with a speech, generally to teach) and he said, in most cases, and I think always) "Humanity is more important than Religion." It really opened up a lot of eyes,(and I always thought that. Faith alone is fine, but you have to be a good person. That's what matters
 
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Also, to clear things up. It's widely known that even if you have faith, you are not guaranteed into Heaven. I remember last Friday prayer, the person who was making the Friday Prayer (Friday Prayers require someone to lead also with a speech, generally to teach) and he said, in most cases, and I think always) "Humanity is more important than Religion." It really opened up a lot of eyes,(and I always thought that. Faith alone is fine, but you have to be a good person. That's what matters
Of course. No one is guaranteed.
 

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Also, to clear things up. It's widely known that even if you have faith, you are not guaranteed into Heaven. I remember last Friday prayer, the person who was making the Friday Prayer (Friday Prayers require someone to lead also with a speech, generally to teach) and he said, in most cases, and I think always Humanity is more important than Religion. It really opened up a lot of eyes, and I always thought that. Faith alone is fine, but you have to be a good person. That's what matters
Yea even though I personally don't believe in an afterlife, I think that if it existed you would go to heaven for being a good person and hell for being a bad person, regardless of religion. The whole "you go to heaven just for being Christian" sounds like a get out of jail free card since you can just go commit a felony, say im sorry forgive me Jesus and then your all good. The Christian God is supposed to be forgiving so it would be stupid if he can forgive someone for killing several people, but not for being a Christian. Most people are raised to believe in a certain religion, and will not abandon what they have been told is true by the people around them, so it would be difficult for someone born in a Islamic country to become Christian.
 

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I haven't, but I'll definitely check it out
 

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I see it more like this, although I have no ties to religion.
Blind hope onto something motivated by..
Well I'll give you what I feel it is, your choice to choose one.
If your following your basically blinding yourself into going towards the belief one almighty god.
He who Loves, Gives, Hates, Tortures, he who is basically everything regardless of contradiction.

He not bound by someone thinking it's impossible to be sinking and floating at once.

But if your denying him, well it really doesn't mean a thing, you can ignore it and be just as big as a dumbass with no reason.


If your simply worried/paranoid about what if he's actually lingers around and bites you in the ass and sends you to hell.


Well, I'd say go with which one your confident with, because really who knows if there's a gigantic asspull that drags us to hell?
I mean if he's truly as said so, that's GG for me :|

are you trying to tell me there is a way to actually believe in god without doubting in the end when you die and dont get to meet him? first it clearly stated in the religion to actually inherit god kingdom you have to love your god with all your hearts and follow all commandments, its not something you can fake, the way i was thinking about if the god doesn't actually exist i will have nothing to lose in the end, but the way it has to actually work is you have to be certain he exists 100 percent, meaning you have to die brainwashed to think he exists, and if he doesnt, then i just death was unprepared for the doubt of his existence.
 

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are you trying to tell me there is a way to actually believe in god without doubting in the end when you die and dont get to meet him? first it clearly stated in the religion to actually inherit god kingdom you have to love your god with all your hearts and follow all commandments, its not something you can fake, the way i was thinking about if the god doesn't actually exist i will have nothing to lose in the end, but the way it has to actually work is you have to be certain he exists 100 percent, meaning you have to die brainwashed to think he exists, and if he doesnt, then i just death was unprepared for the doubt of his existence.

Trust me dude, it's okay to have doubts. It makes you human. NOBODY is 100%, but if you want to believe you will. At most people can be 99%
 
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