How did the S06P defeat the Juubi?

[Senju Bean]

Well, so far it seems like the path the being the Juubi Jin is via Senju DNA and Powerful eyes. Another power up that is foreshadowed is Naruto gaining the Rinnegan/Rikudo powers from the tailed beasts. These power ups are shortcuts essentially; they're simply using the ingredients left behind by the S06P.

So then what the sage did was truly amazing. He, without Senju/Uchiha powers, obtained a power up that was so great, it was able to put him toe to toe with the complete Juubi. I wonder what this powerup could be? "God Mode" instead of Sage Mode? lol. Enlightenment? Maybe he became so enlightened that he transcended humanity. idk. Just putting ideas out there.



Hypothetical scenario. Obito takes the remaining two beasts and becomes complete. Is he as strong as the sage? No!
Jubbi + S06P >>> Jubbi + Obito. Since S06P>>>Obito without Juubi in the picture. Just basic math here. But this shows that there is no one in the Naruto universe that can reach S06P levels, even as a Juubi Jin.

Furthermore, maybe this "God Mode" is the only way anyone can match up to Naruto after the war is over.

 

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Uzumaki seals, that Minato has

 

[Senju Bean]

Can't be just that. The Juubi would have to be down for the count in order to for the seals to work. In other words, the power level of the Sage actually exceeded the Juubi's.

 

[rollin]

he invented a seal for it

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[Senju Bean]

So you're saying that a nobody gennin can defeat the Juubi if he simply knew the magic words? Can't be that simple.

 

[Senju Bean]

I like to relate this to fighting Edo's. Throughout the war arc, Edo are sealed after they are defeated in battle. That is, you can't seal an Edo without actually overpowering the Edo. I think the same goes with the Juubi and the S06P.

 

[Neonian]

He created something most likely since he is the creator of things.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Hopefully we'll get a flashback like we did with Hashirama.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Hopefully we'll get a flashback like we did with Hashirama.

^^ Exactly

I have three theories how The Sage of six paths could defeat The Juubi ?

1) Sage of six paths had Sage mode which amiplified his already very high stats in base form. Sage mode amplified his Sealing techniques to such extent that he was able to seal Complete Juubi + He most likely had Byakugan before which give great insight to discover divine existence of chakra.

In short: Sage of six paths used Senjutsu + Sealing techniques + Byakugan + Hyuuga techniques

2) Sage of six paths had only Sage mode, but all types of Sage modes or Ultimate Sage mode which allowed him to manipulate nature itself, change weather, use natural disasters and all five elements as wind, water, lightining, fire and earth. He could weaken/drain Juubi by absorbing it's nature energy and use some of it's own powers against itself. Sealing techniques could amplified as well.

In short: Sage of six paths used Ultimate Sage mode + sealing techniques

3) Sage of six paths had Rinnengan from the Begining, wether being born with Rinnengan or acquiring it throught deep and long meditation getting enlightenment. With Rinnengan Sage of six paths could use any technique and stopped Juubi.

In short: Sage of six paths used Rinnengan + sealing techniques

Either way Sage mode or Rinnengan was required for SOSP to defeat Juubi

I hope you like reading my reply

Btw. nice thread and I was wondering about it through some time as well

 

[DietyOfWind]

the first sage of the six paths was from the uzumaki clan and he discovered how to mold chakra it was said also its been mentioned a few times in the manga that the tailed beasts are mass lumps of chakra born from hatred if the first sage of the sixth paths had went into battle with the jubbi with no fear and only love in his heart depending on how he fought he could very well have beat the jubby the way it wastes its power with seals like minatos/second hokages teleportation making the jubbi hit itself with its own tailed beast bomb.

 

[Transcendence]

By virtue of his name, he had Sage Mode. But as shown by Hashirama, I think it was through sheer sealing prowess. Hashirama, who by all means is powerful, was able to restrain 2nd form Juubi with the Gates like it was absolutely nothing. If we are going on the premise that the Sage was immensely powerful even before the Juubi (Lack of Rinnegan in this case) then it isn't hard to believe he was able to subdue the Juubi with something similar (albeit more powerful) to Hashirama and then subsequently seal it.

 

[NarutoKage2]

By virtue of his name, he had Sage Mode. But as shown by Hashirama, I think it was through sheer sealing prowess. Hashirama, who by all means is powerful, was able to restrain 2nd form Juubi with the Gates like it was absolutely nothing. If we are going on the premise that the Sage was immensely powerful even before the Juubi (Lack of Rinnegan in this case) then it isn't hard to believe he was able to subdue the Juubi with something similar (albeit more powerful) to Hashirama and then subsequently seal it.

You realize hashirama is a senju, right? Who' s mokuton powers supposedly came from the juubi according to the uzumaki=sage theory you fanboy U_U

ot: damn good question. No ordinary sage mode/ byakugan or mere seal is stopping the fully powered complete juubi just like that. It took 4 edo hokages(who were frickin legends) just to restrain an incomplete, semi formed juubi. Incidentally, minato who is a master of uzumaki seals was unable to use any on the juubi despite having a kcm chakra cloak. How these clowns can believe that the sage managed to subdue the juubi before he had either the rinnegan or senju dna is beyond me.

 

[DietyOfWind]

well thats noyt completely true then sine we do know for a fact the jubbi WAS sealed into the first sage not to mention since he was the first sage he set the prerequisite and taught people how to use ninjutsu not to mention the senju and uchiha clan came from him its easy to see how he was strong in lineage the issue is just the pieces so one can only think he had a mega sealing jutsu ,fought and wore it out, ftg the jutsus it used back at it till it got tired,and the last possible thing being he energy bent it right off the bat before it entered its perfect form and that last choice is so avatar.Then again maybe he had rinnegan before he fought it cause the uzumaki clan was around during that time supposedly where as the other 2 clans werent if i had to guess as to how else the rinnegan formed it would be from the joint child of a hugga family member and an uzumaki since i believe the huygga have also caimed to be one of the leafs oldest and strongest clans too

 

[miromiro]

He's motherf*cking Rikudou Sennin, a God.
But yeah, nobody knows how he defeated him. I've argued a lot with a bunch of idiots that kept on saying that Juubito is above Rikudou Sennin. And I kept on telling them that Rikudou actually defeated with unimaginable powers the Juubi, in order to seal it. They didn't just seal it as Obito did. But yeah, I'm pretty sure he's got a handful of techniques that could easily defeat anyone in the Narutoverse.

That's why I'm waiting as hell for a huge long flashback about Rikudou Sennin and about how he did this and that and everything!

 

[Transcendence]

You realize hashirama is a senju, right? Who' s mokuton powers supposedly came from the juubi according to the uzumaki=sage theory you fanboy U_U

ot: damn good question. No ordinary sage mode/ byakugan or mere seal is stopping the fully powered complete juubi just like that. It took 4 edo hokages(who were frickin legends) just to restrain an incomplete, semi formed juubi. Incidentally, minato who is a master of uzumaki seals was unable to use any on the juubi despite having a kcm chakra cloak. How these clowns can believe that the sage managed to subdue the juubi before he had either the rinnegan or senju dna is beyond me.

Learn reading comprehension you dunce. I said shown by Hashirama to illustrate that someone powerful can subdue second form Juubi therefore Rikudou was on another level even before he become the Juubi's Jin.

 

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If the Rikudou Sennin is able to channel the power of Divinities other than the Juubi, then he would be a force to reckon with even for a god.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Learn reading comprehension you dunce. I said shown by Hashirama to illustrate that someone powerful can subdue second form Juubi therefore Rikudou was on another level even before he become the Juubi's Jin.

And where did this power come from, his ass? Cuz being an uzumaki and having fuuinjutsu sure as sh!t never gave anyone in history that much power.

If it was a magical access to a kami being,.why didnt any other uzumaki access that power, even when the survival of their whole clan depended on it?

Hashirama had the powerful inheritance of the younger son, that was a necessary precondition to the magnitude of his strength.

 

[Senju Bean]

I think it's important to note that Hashirama suppressing the Juubi doesn't mean that Hashirama's power level is greater than the Juubi's. Hashirama is derivative of the Juubi's body and thus has a shortcut. The sage had no such shortcut.

 

[VolatileSoul]

I don't think he outright defeated it, as in waged battle and won. I think he simply had a seal with the hax of Shiki Fujin without the drawbacks. At least any sever drawbacks. Shiki Fujin is like Koto Amatsukami. It can defeat people who are leagues above you in power.

 

[Transcendence]

I don't think he outright defeated it, as in waged battle and won. I think he simply had a seal with the hax of Shiki Fujin without the drawbacks. At least any sever drawbacks. Shiki Fujin is like Koto Amatsukami. It can defeat people who are leagues above you in power.

Exactly. People have this misconception that he defeated it. Rather he was able to subdue and seal it; which isn't really a defeat.