[Discussion] How Did The Fullbring Arc Copied..........

JStar King · Jul 27, 2015

Some said this arc, including the fillers are what killed the Bleach anime. And yes, I have to agree on the Filler part. But there's been buzz about Bleach copying Yu Yu Hakusho and yes, I agree that there are many similarities. I quit the Fullbring Arc because it bore me. It was said that this arc ripped off Yu Yu Hakusho's Chapter Black Arc. Can someone please tell me the similarities between them? I would like to know.

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Motion · Jul 27, 2015

A lot of people copy Togashi. Kishi does it a lot.

JStar King · Jul 27, 2015

Motion said:
A lot of people copy Togashi. Kishi does it a lot.

I know. I just wanted to see the similarities between the Fullbring & Chapter Black Arc.

Motion · Jul 27, 2015

Strykervenom said:
I know. I just wanted to see the similarities between the Fullbring & Chapter Black Arc.

I didn't even notice Bleach was doing it though.

JStar King · Jul 27, 2015

Motion said:
I didn't even notice Bleach was doing it though.

Yep, without Yu Yu Hakusho and Hunter x Hunter, there would be no Naruto or Bleach.

Forbidden Tale · Jul 27, 2015

I can't really speak considering I haven't read YYH.

Tho, as I have heard, YYH is little older and rumors say that many mangas were inspired by YYH, which was itself inspired by DB.

Relostar Devil · Jul 27, 2015

Now many of them will say that it is "inspiaration" not "copying"

Totsuka No Tsurugi · Jul 27, 2015

Strykervenom said:
Yep, without Yu Yu Hakusho and Hunter x Hunter, there would be no Naruto or Bleach.

Cut the crap will ya ? Naruto and HXH is only a year apart in term serialization, its impossible to copy with that timeline or whatever you fanboys called it, noted that when HXH is already running weekly in WSJ Naruto is already slated for serialization,

While in YYH and Bleach case they only have similarity in their main character setting as in spirit detective - substitute shinigami along with that black chapter..

but as a whole they're completely different series with both Naruto and Bleach come out on top for being more consistent and having a better mangaka who actually respected everyone in their workplace...

So saying that Bleach and Naruto wouldn't exist without HXH and YYH is inaccurate, because both Naruto and Bleach don't need any element from YYH and HXH in the 1st place...

JStar King · Jul 27, 2015

Totsuka No Tsurugi said:
Cut the crap will ya ? Naruto and HXH is only a year apart in term serialization, its impossible to copy with that timeline or whatever you fanboys called it, noted that when HXH is already running weekly in WSJ Naruto is already slated for serialization,

While in YYH and Bleach case they only have similarity in their main character setting as in spirit detective - substitute shinigami along with that black chapter..

but as a whole they're completely different series with both Naruto and Bleach come out on top for being more consistent and having a better mangaka who actually respected everyone in their workplace...

So saying that Bleach and Naruto wouldn't exist without HXH and YYH is inaccurate, because both Naruto and Bleach don't need any element from YYH and HXH in the 1st place...

Kishi said he used Hunter x Hunter as a template. There are so many similarities in Part 1 and few in Part 2 when it comes to HxH. Don't be so mad about the truth.

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Amaterasu · Jul 27, 2015

F*ck this shit.

Fullbring Arc was great, yet some ppl like you are criticizing because it was not in Soul Societey or there was no "Aizen da solo god".

Fullbring is the best arc behind Aizen, 1000 Yrs War and Soul Society Arc

JStar King · Jul 27, 2015

Prime Naruto said:
F*ck this shit.

Fullbring Arc was great, yet some ppl like you are criticizing because it was not in Soul Societey or there was no "Aizen da solo god".

Fullbring is the best arc behind Aizen, 1000 Yrs War and Soul Society Arc

I just look up Chapter Black. Yep, these 2 arcs are definitely the same.

Totsuka No Tsurugi · Jul 27, 2015

Where did you read that ? how can he used a series who is in its early stage as a template (mind that HXH only have like 10 chapter or so when Naruto comes around) ? because that only possible if Togashi is secretly providing Kishimoto with his manuscript,

to begin with... there is no indication that Naruto is copying HXH.

Strykervenom said:
Kishi said he used Hunter x Hunter as a template. There are so many similarities in Part 1 and few in Part 2 when it comes to HxH. Don't be so mad about the truth.

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The truth ? what's the truth ? the truth is Naruto and HXH is only a year apart in serialization, and its impossible to copy with that timeline..
That's just some random article made by random person, he basically laid the groundwork of every shounen manga back in 90's... like i said.. its impossible to copy Togashi's manga with his work ethnic.

Relostar Devil · Jul 28, 2015

Prime Naruto said:
F*ck this shit.

Fullbring Arc was great, yet some ppl like you are criticizing because it was not in Soul Societey or there was no "Aizen da solo god".

Fullbring is the best arc behind Aizen, 1000 Yrs War and Soul Society Arc

Whats left then.

Hexuze · Jul 28, 2015

Totsuka No Tsurugi said:
Where did you read that ? how can he used a series who is in its early stage as a template (mind that HXH only have like 10 chapter or so when Naruto comes around) ? because that only possible if Togashi is secretly providing Kishimoto with his manuscript,

to begin with... there is no indication that Naruto is copying HXH.

The truth ? what's the truth ? the truth is Naruto and HXH is only a year apart in serialization, and its impossible to copy with that timeline..
That's just some random article made by random person, he basically laid the groundwork of every shounen manga back in 90's... like i said.. its impossible to copy Togashi's manga with his work ethnic.

The hunter exam arc was completed before Naruto even began. The hunter exam arc was completed as of April 1999 and Naruto only started as of Sept/October 1999. I'm not even sure where you got this 10 chapter lead crap from. The chunin exam arc didn't even start till like chapter 30, so he could of gotten inspiration before Naruto began. Kishi. even admitted to studying HxH in a interview and said that he learned a lot from Togashi in general when Naruto was starting (or at least that's how I remembered it since the interview was in a Toriko volume). I do agree that Kishi didn't copy Togashi but the inspiration is definitely there.

OT: It's not ripped off, just similarities. If there was no HxH/YYH, there will still would of been a Naruto/Bleach for sure. You're assuming that a mangaka just only has one source of inspiration which is never the case. Sure, it'd be slightly different but not too different were you won't be able to distinguish it.

Totsuka No Tsurugi · Jul 28, 2015

Corazon said:
The hunter exam arc was completed before Naruto even began. The hunter exam arc was completed as of April 1999 and Naruto only started as of Sept/October 1999. I'm not even sure where you got this 10 chapter lead crap from. The chunin exam arc didn't even start till like chapter 30, so he could of gotten inspiration before Naruto began. Kishi. even admitted to studying HxH in a interview and said that he learned a lot from Togashi in general when Naruto was starting (or at least that's how I remembered it since the interview was in a Toriko volume). I do agree that Kishi didn't copy Togashi but the inspiration is definitely there.

Am not talking about the number of released chapter, but instead the number of completed/ok'ed chapter by the editor during its tenure in WSJ, you don't think that Kishimoto only has like 1 chapter completed for his serialization debut don't you ?

Normally there are 3 new series comes at jump in every circle of serialization, and all the 3 new nga's is decided in 1 meeting, so the time when HXH got serialized Naruto is also already slated for serialization, do you know what that means ? that means both Kishimoto and Togashi is already working on their manga's chapter long before it got published in the magazine,

And ofc Kishimoto takes note from Togashi works... dude act like his mentor or something.

Memento Mori · Jul 28, 2015

If I remember the template is same like having to fight their same predecessor etc., and nothing more. Their Storyboards are different tho.

Forbidden Tale said:
I can't really speak considering I haven't read YYH.

Tho, as I have heard, YYH is little older and rumors say that many mangas were inspired by YYH, which was itself inspired by DB.

You didn't watch anime either?.

Xlad · Jul 28, 2015

All I know is that there is a thing called copiception.

chopstickchakra · Jul 29, 2015

Forbidden Tale said:
I can't really speak considering I haven't read YYH.

Tho, as I have heard, YYH is little older and rumors say that many mangas were inspired by YYH, which was itself inspired by DB.

Which itself was inspired by Astro boy

Tantalus Thief · Jul 29, 2015

I think Kubo was inspired a bit by YYH

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