You guys are not answering the question. How specifically could the jounins have given these guys a hard time with their special abilities? What did they do when Kidomaru trapped them in a spider web or if jirobu trapped them in the chakra sucking earth prison, or when tayuya used her flute genjutsu, or when sakon/ukon went into their bodies? Not to mention they all had CM2 enhanced super strength/speed/chakra. What did they specifically have in their moveset to counter this? Throwing kunais/shuriken is not enough.