[Discussion] How did Ebola even get into the US?
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Re: Chris Brown: "Ebola is population control"
Then again, disease mortality rates grow exponentially. Especially with something like Ebola, which is claimed to transmit through direct contact with blood or body fluids from that of an infected person. The more people have it, the more infected blood/body fluids present. Moreover, the more Ebola infected people, the less potential blood transfusions, transplants, etc. Several studies show that Ebola was capable of being transmitted without direct contact through varying animals in different cages. So the concept of transmission solely through direct contact of the things I have listed is still merely a probability. Either way, most people who are affected by population control in this case would be Africa, who don't have what it takes to prevent its progression.
Then again, disease mortality rates grow exponentially. Especially with something like Ebola, which is claimed to transmit through direct contact with blood or body fluids from that of an infected person. The more people have it, the more infected blood/body fluids present. Moreover, the more Ebola infected people, the less potential blood transfusions, transplants, etc. Several studies show that Ebola was capable of being transmitted without direct contact through varying animals in different cages. So the concept of transmission solely through direct contact of the things I have listed is still merely a probability. Either way, most people who are affected by population control in this case would be Africa, who don't have what it takes to prevent its progression.
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Re: Chris Brown: "Ebola is population control"
Depends on who's doing the controlling.
You seem to be of the opinion it's Governemnt sponsored control.
Major diseases killing massive populations isn't new. Look at the Bubonic Plague.
It destroyed Europe and before that struck the Byzantine empire in the 6th Century.
Ebola is nowhere close to that monstrosity of a disease.
It's hardly a government sponsored population control.
It's questionable if it even becomes a pandemic let alone one on a grand scale in terms of mortality rates are concerned.
Depends on who's doing the controlling.
You seem to be of the opinion it's Governemnt sponsored control.
Major diseases killing massive populations isn't new. Look at the Bubonic Plague.
It destroyed Europe and before that struck the Byzantine empire in the 6th Century.
Ebola is nowhere close to that monstrosity of a disease.
It's hardly a government sponsored population control.
It's questionable if it even becomes a pandemic let alone one on a grand scale in terms of mortality rates are concerned.
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U.S. government is actively encouraging an Ebola outbreak in America.
"As microbiologist Dr. Gil Mobley recently said in protest of all the lies and disinformation, "CDC is lying! ... [and] If they're not lying, they are grossly incompetent."
Here are the top ten pieces of evidence that point to the U.S. government seemingly wanting to see Ebola spread even more. Because, just as Dr. Mobley says, if all this isn't intentional, then it's a showcase of extreme incompetence on the part of government:
#1) Obama refuses to halt air travelers from infected countries from entering the United States
#2) Texas family is quarantined in a home that still hasn't been cleaned or decontaminated
#3) The CDC continues to lie about modes of transmission for the Ebola virus
#4) The FDA is openly threatening sellers of natural remedies that might be useful for slowing or stopping Ebola
#5) People entering U.S. customs are not asked where they've been
#6) The U.S. government knew about the outbreak in advance, but didn't warn the public
#7) Even during a global pandemic outbreak, the U.S. government refuses to secure the southern U.S. border
#8) The government's official advice of "don't panic, don't prepare" ensures a greater pandemic emergency during any outbreak
#9) The U.S. watched and waited, doing nothing during the original window of opportunity for halting Ebola six months ago
#10) The U.S. government has held the patent on Ebola since 2010
He goes on to explain:
"As microbiologist Dr. Gil Mobley recently said in protest of all the lies and disinformation, "CDC is lying! ... [and] If they're not lying, they are grossly incompetent."
Here are the top ten pieces of evidence that point to the U.S. government seemingly wanting to see Ebola spread even more. Because, just as Dr. Mobley says, if all this isn't intentional, then it's a showcase of extreme incompetence on the part of government:
#1) Obama refuses to halt air travelers from infected countries from entering the United States
Ebola "patient zero" Thomas Eric Duncan flew right into the United States and walked through the international airports of both Washington D.C. and Dallas-Fort Worth. He was never asked about his country of origin and was never screened for any health conditions.
Why are people whose flights originate in Liberia and Sierra Leone still allowed to openly travel to large U.S. cities? Shouldn't we use the immigration and customs infrastructure already in place at international airports to reject travelers from countries where Ebola is spreading out of control?
Strangely, the United States has far more stringent requirements for cats and dogs entering the country than it does for humans. Dogs and cats must enter the country with extensive health records, but international air travelers can apparently just fly right in even if they're infected with Ebola.
Why are people whose flights originate in Liberia and Sierra Leone still allowed to openly travel to large U.S. cities? Shouldn't we use the immigration and customs infrastructure already in place at international airports to reject travelers from countries where Ebola is spreading out of control?
Strangely, the United States has far more stringent requirements for cats and dogs entering the country than it does for humans. Dogs and cats must enter the country with extensive health records, but international air travelers can apparently just fly right in even if they're infected with Ebola.
#2) Texas family is quarantined in a home that still hasn't been cleaned or decontaminated
"More than a week after a Liberian man fell ill with Ebola and four days after he was placed in isolation at a hospital in Dallas, the apartment where he was staying with four other people had not been cleaned and the sheets and dirty towels he used while sick remained in the home, health officials acknowledged on Thursday afternoon." - NY Times and Fox News
Even though the home hasn't been cleaned or decontaminated, family members of Thomas Eric Duncan have been forced into isolation in this contaminated home and told they must submit to regular blood draws by the state.
Already, these family members escaped their isolation and began to mingle once again with the public, violating their isolation orders. The woman, Louise Troh, told reporters she is tired of being "locked up" with her family members.
"Dallas officials said that relatives of the man infected with Ebola left their apartment after agreeing not to, which prompted officials to issue a confinement order overnight," reports the LA Times. "They were noncompliant with the request to stay home," said Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins.
Isn't it insane to force a family into quarantine in a home that's clearly contaminated with Ebola? Doesn't this almost prove that government authorities actually want this family to catch the disease and spread it? After all, how else could this family have been "allowed" to violate their isolation and start interacting with the public again? With hundreds (if not thousands) of CDC and Texas health authorities on location dealing with this Dallas outbreak, how could it be that not a single one of these persons was assigned to watching the Duncan household to make sure nobody left?
Cleaning of contaminated apartment delayed by government demand for a "permit"
What's even more incredible is that the cleaning crew which was hired to sanitize the home was turned away because they were told they needed a Texas Dept. of Transportation permit to drive on state highways after cleaning the home.
"Brad Smith of the Cleaning Guys, which was hired to sanitize the apartment, said his company does not have the proper permits to transport hazardous waste on Texas highways. The company specializes in hazmat and biohazard cleaning services," reports a local Fox affiliate. "Smith said authorities sent his crew away late Thursday before they entered the apartment and told them to come back with proper permits. It’s unclear how long that will take. 'The permit is being processed through DOT (the Department of Transportation) because it is a special permit,' Smith said."
In other words, a family is being forced to live in an Ebola-contaminated home while the cleaning of that home is delayed because somebody needs a permit to clean it? How insane does this get, really?
Even though the home hasn't been cleaned or decontaminated, family members of Thomas Eric Duncan have been forced into isolation in this contaminated home and told they must submit to regular blood draws by the state.
Already, these family members escaped their isolation and began to mingle once again with the public, violating their isolation orders. The woman, Louise Troh, told reporters she is tired of being "locked up" with her family members.
"Dallas officials said that relatives of the man infected with Ebola left their apartment after agreeing not to, which prompted officials to issue a confinement order overnight," reports the LA Times. "They were noncompliant with the request to stay home," said Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins.
Isn't it insane to force a family into quarantine in a home that's clearly contaminated with Ebola? Doesn't this almost prove that government authorities actually want this family to catch the disease and spread it? After all, how else could this family have been "allowed" to violate their isolation and start interacting with the public again? With hundreds (if not thousands) of CDC and Texas health authorities on location dealing with this Dallas outbreak, how could it be that not a single one of these persons was assigned to watching the Duncan household to make sure nobody left?
Cleaning of contaminated apartment delayed by government demand for a "permit"
What's even more incredible is that the cleaning crew which was hired to sanitize the home was turned away because they were told they needed a Texas Dept. of Transportation permit to drive on state highways after cleaning the home.
"Brad Smith of the Cleaning Guys, which was hired to sanitize the apartment, said his company does not have the proper permits to transport hazardous waste on Texas highways. The company specializes in hazmat and biohazard cleaning services," reports a local Fox affiliate. "Smith said authorities sent his crew away late Thursday before they entered the apartment and told them to come back with proper permits. It’s unclear how long that will take. 'The permit is being processed through DOT (the Department of Transportation) because it is a special permit,' Smith said."
In other words, a family is being forced to live in an Ebola-contaminated home while the cleaning of that home is delayed because somebody needs a permit to clean it? How insane does this get, really?
#3) The CDC continues to lie about modes of transmission for the Ebola virus
The CDC continues to ridiculously claim that Ebola only spreads through "direct contact of body fluids." The agency continued to deny that Ebola can spread through the air for short distances and that Ebola can be acquired by touching contaminated surfaces.
The overall lie from the CDC is that Ebola is "difficult to catch." But if that's true, then why did so many doctors who are well trained in the prevention of infectious disease still manage to get infected? How did Dr. Kent Brantly get infected?
Even more, how did the NBC News cameraman now get infected even though he took extreme precautions to avoid touching anyone while also carefully washing his own skin and clothes each day?
"I am taking serious precautions and washing with chlorine regularly," said Ashoka Mukpo, the 33-year-old cameraman, in a NY Daily News article. Clearly this was not an individual who ran around touching infected Ebola patients. Yet he still got infected. How is this possible unless the CDC is lying?
Dr. Gil Mobley "said the CDC is 'sugar-coating' the risk of the virus spreading in the United States," reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Research has clearly shown that Ebola virus can ride on aerosols -- airborne particles of water or spit -- and infect people at a distance. So why isn't the CDC telling people the truth that Ebola can spread through the air?
And why aren't frontline doctors and soldiers being told they need to wear full face respirators?
It's almost as if the CDC wants this to spread in order to generate exactly the kind of pandemic panic that would generate billions of dollars in lucrative vaccine sales. They did it before, after all, with the swine flu scare. So why not use Ebola to also generate more profits for the vaccine makers?
The overall lie from the CDC is that Ebola is "difficult to catch." But if that's true, then why did so many doctors who are well trained in the prevention of infectious disease still manage to get infected? How did Dr. Kent Brantly get infected?
Even more, how did the NBC News cameraman now get infected even though he took extreme precautions to avoid touching anyone while also carefully washing his own skin and clothes each day?
"I am taking serious precautions and washing with chlorine regularly," said Ashoka Mukpo, the 33-year-old cameraman, in a NY Daily News article. Clearly this was not an individual who ran around touching infected Ebola patients. Yet he still got infected. How is this possible unless the CDC is lying?
Dr. Gil Mobley "said the CDC is 'sugar-coating' the risk of the virus spreading in the United States," reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Research has clearly shown that Ebola virus can ride on aerosols -- airborne particles of water or spit -- and infect people at a distance. So why isn't the CDC telling people the truth that Ebola can spread through the air?
And why aren't frontline doctors and soldiers being told they need to wear full face respirators?
It's almost as if the CDC wants this to spread in order to generate exactly the kind of pandemic panic that would generate billions of dollars in lucrative vaccine sales. They did it before, after all, with the swine flu scare. So why not use Ebola to also generate more profits for the vaccine makers?
#4) The FDA is openly threatening sellers of natural remedies that might be useful for slowing or stopping Ebola
Instead of encouraging people to boost their immune systems with nutritional therapies, natural remedies and superfoods, the FDA is actively going out of its way to threaten resellers of colloidal silver and essential oils.
Last week, the FDA threatened three companies with criminal prosecution if they didn't take steps to dissociate their products from Ebola.
One company, the Natural Solutions Foundation, has since claimed that governments are actively seizing colloidal silver shipments to African nations in order to prevent Ebola victims from ever being treated with it. Are these authorities afraid that it might actually work?
Shouldn't we be trying and testing every herb and natural remedy on the planet to find out how to stop Ebola? Or are we all supposed to wait around for the drug companies to manufacture an experimental vaccine and then put all our trust in that?
Doesn't anybody realize the company testing the vaccine right now -- GlaxoSmithKline -- has a long criminal history of admitted felony crimes including the bribery of tens of thousands of doctors?
Last week, the FDA threatened three companies with criminal prosecution if they didn't take steps to dissociate their products from Ebola.
One company, the Natural Solutions Foundation, has since claimed that governments are actively seizing colloidal silver shipments to African nations in order to prevent Ebola victims from ever being treated with it. Are these authorities afraid that it might actually work?
Shouldn't we be trying and testing every herb and natural remedy on the planet to find out how to stop Ebola? Or are we all supposed to wait around for the drug companies to manufacture an experimental vaccine and then put all our trust in that?
Doesn't anybody realize the company testing the vaccine right now -- GlaxoSmithKline -- has a long criminal history of admitted felony crimes including the bribery of tens of thousands of doctors?
"Yesterday, I came through international customs at the Atlanta airport," said Dr. Gil Mobley when he recently entered the United States. "The only question they asked arriving passengers is if they had tobacco or alcohol." - reported in the AJC.
Apparently, U.S. customs is far more interested in determining whether you owe any import tax than whether you might be carrying a deadly pandemic virus. Is nobody in the U.S. government aware that an international pandemic is under way? How is it even possible that people are not being asked about their country of origin?
Apparently, U.S. customs is far more interested in determining whether you owe any import tax than whether you might be carrying a deadly pandemic virus. Is nobody in the U.S. government aware that an international pandemic is under way? How is it even possible that people are not being asked about their country of origin?
#6) The U.S. government knew about the outbreak in advance, but didn't warn the public
It's now clear that the U.S. government has long known this outbreak was coming but did nothing to warn the public.
In early September, the government sought to purchase 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits from a U.S. supplier.
Furthermore, according to this report on SHTFplan.com, "Disaster Assistance Response Teams were told to prepare to be activated in the month of October."
Don't you find it strange that while the government itself was gearing up for an October disaster, the public wasn't told a thing about any of this?
In early September, the government sought to purchase 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits from a U.S. supplier.
Furthermore, according to this report on SHTFplan.com, "Disaster Assistance Response Teams were told to prepare to be activated in the month of October."
Don't you find it strange that while the government itself was gearing up for an October disaster, the public wasn't told a thing about any of this?
#7) Even during a global pandemic outbreak, the U.S. government refuses to secure the southern U.S. border
If Ebola victims can fly into the United States, they can surely fly into Mexico, Central America and South America as well.
So why is the U.S. southern border still wide open with virtually zero security? The ability of infected Ebola victims to walk right across the border and into Texas (or other southern states) seems to be of no concern whatsoever to the Obama administration. The political goal of encouraging the maximum illegal immigration possible -- and then granting amnesty to a wave of new voters -- seems far more important than protecting America from a pandemic outbreak.
Many observers already believe that the mystery entero virus which has sent hundreds of U.S. children to hospitals all across the country probably entered the U.S. through the unsecured border. If Obama can send 3,000 U.S. troops to Sierra Leone, why can't we send a few thousand enforcers to our own border with Mexico?
The insanity of leaving that border wide open during an international deadly pandemic is beyond description. This is beyond negligent; it is clearly deliberate.
So why is the U.S. southern border still wide open with virtually zero security? The ability of infected Ebola victims to walk right across the border and into Texas (or other southern states) seems to be of no concern whatsoever to the Obama administration. The political goal of encouraging the maximum illegal immigration possible -- and then granting amnesty to a wave of new voters -- seems far more important than protecting America from a pandemic outbreak.
Many observers already believe that the mystery entero virus which has sent hundreds of U.S. children to hospitals all across the country probably entered the U.S. through the unsecured border. If Obama can send 3,000 U.S. troops to Sierra Leone, why can't we send a few thousand enforcers to our own border with Mexico?
The insanity of leaving that border wide open during an international deadly pandemic is beyond description. This is beyond negligent; it is clearly deliberate.
#8) The government's official advice of "don't panic, don't prepare" ensures a greater pandemic emergency during any outbreak
The U.S. government has actually gone out of its way to discourage the American people from taking basic preparedness precautions, long depicting preppers and survivalists as "radical elements" who might even pose a security risk to America, according to FBI warnings.
But in truth, preppers are the most calm people of all because they have nothing to fear from infrastructure disruptions, food supply shortages and even power grid failures. Preppers help keep communities safe and calm, and they're the best positioned to help rebuild society after any pandemic.
So why does the U.S. government continue to demonize preppers? The intention, it seems, is to make sure nobody engages in preparedeness activities, thereby maximizing the victim status of the people. This, in turn, makes people more obedient to government because that's where they must now turn for food, water, medicine and safety.
At every turn, the U.S. government seems to have encouraged victimization and actually taught people to do nothing for their own safety and preparedness. This is how nations are brought to their knees: strip away all self-reliance, then follow it up with a sweeping national catastrophe.
But in truth, preppers are the most calm people of all because they have nothing to fear from infrastructure disruptions, food supply shortages and even power grid failures. Preppers help keep communities safe and calm, and they're the best positioned to help rebuild society after any pandemic.
So why does the U.S. government continue to demonize preppers? The intention, it seems, is to make sure nobody engages in preparedeness activities, thereby maximizing the victim status of the people. This, in turn, makes people more obedient to government because that's where they must now turn for food, water, medicine and safety.
At every turn, the U.S. government seems to have encouraged victimization and actually taught people to do nothing for their own safety and preparedness. This is how nations are brought to their knees: strip away all self-reliance, then follow it up with a sweeping national catastrophe.
#9) The U.S. watched and waited, doing nothing during the original window of opportunity for halting Ebola six months ago
Ebola could have been stopped relatively easily in the spring of 2014. But even when infectious disease experts were sounding the warning many months ago, the U.S. government stood by and did nothing.
This was, in fact, a reflection of the entire international response which was lackluster at best. As Ebola ramped up into exponential growth, world political leaders were apparently too busy running for office and wooing voters to pay any attention to a deadly outbreak happening a continent away.
Obama's dispatching of 3,000 troops long after the explosive spread of Ebola was already under way is nothing more than medical theater. The Pentagon's ongoing construction of a reported 1,500 cots in makeshift medical tents isn't going to make any kind of dent in a country where the CDC now estimates 1.4 million infections by the end of January.
Even worse, it exposes U.S. soldiers to a virus which we already know can be spread through the air. As Rand Paul recently asked, "Can you imagine if a whole ship full of our soldiers catch ebola?"
Paul goes on to explain, "We should not underestimate the transmissibility of this... My suspicion is that it's a lot more transmissible than that if people who are taking every precaution are getting it. There are people getting it who simply helped people get in or out of a taxicab."
It's hard not to consider the possibility that this was done in order to intentionally expose U.S. soldiers to Ebola, then bring them back home to spread the infection in yet more U.S. cities.
This was, in fact, a reflection of the entire international response which was lackluster at best. As Ebola ramped up into exponential growth, world political leaders were apparently too busy running for office and wooing voters to pay any attention to a deadly outbreak happening a continent away.
Obama's dispatching of 3,000 troops long after the explosive spread of Ebola was already under way is nothing more than medical theater. The Pentagon's ongoing construction of a reported 1,500 cots in makeshift medical tents isn't going to make any kind of dent in a country where the CDC now estimates 1.4 million infections by the end of January.
Even worse, it exposes U.S. soldiers to a virus which we already know can be spread through the air. As Rand Paul recently asked, "Can you imagine if a whole ship full of our soldiers catch ebola?"
Paul goes on to explain, "We should not underestimate the transmissibility of this... My suspicion is that it's a lot more transmissible than that if people who are taking every precaution are getting it. There are people getting it who simply helped people get in or out of a taxicab."
It's hard not to consider the possibility that this was done in order to intentionally expose U.S. soldiers to Ebola, then bring them back home to spread the infection in yet more U.S. cities.
#10) The U.S. government has held the patent on Ebola since 2010
Finally, the U.S. government has claimed intellectual property ownership over the "invention" of the Ebola virus ever since 2010.
This brings up all sorts of important questions: Why did the government patent its "invention" of Ebola? Patents are filed in order to claim monopoly ownership over an invention. That's the entire purpose of a patent, of course, and by patenting Ebola, the U.S. government is clearly stating that it believes it is the "inventor" of Ebola while seeking to restrict anyone else from using it.
Perhaps this is why Liberian scientist Dr. Cyril Broderick, Professor of Plant Pathology, believes Ebola is an engineered bioweapon. "Ebola is a genetically modified organism (GMO)" he declared in a front-page news story in the Liberian Observer.
This brings up all sorts of important questions: Why did the government patent its "invention" of Ebola? Patents are filed in order to claim monopoly ownership over an invention. That's the entire purpose of a patent, of course, and by patenting Ebola, the U.S. government is clearly stating that it believes it is the "inventor" of Ebola while seeking to restrict anyone else from using it.
Perhaps this is why Liberian scientist Dr. Cyril Broderick, Professor of Plant Pathology, believes Ebola is an engineered bioweapon. "Ebola is a genetically modified organism (GMO)" he declared in a front-page news story in the Liberian Observer.
He goes on to explain:
[Horowitz] confirmed the existence of an American Military-Medical-Industry that conducts biological weapons tests under the guise of administering vaccinations to control diseases and improve the health of "black Africans overseas."
SITES AROUND AFRICA, AND IN WEST AFRICA, HAVE OVER THE YEARS BEEN SET UP FOR TESTING EMERGING DISEASES, ESPECIALLY EBOLA
The World Health Organization (WHO) and several other UN Agencies have been implicated in selecting and enticing African countries to participate in the testing events, promoting vaccinations, but pursuing various testing regiments.
SITES AROUND AFRICA, AND IN WEST AFRICA, HAVE OVER THE YEARS BEEN SET UP FOR TESTING EMERGING DISEASES, ESPECIALLY EBOLA
The World Health Organization (WHO) and several other UN Agencies have been implicated in selecting and enticing African countries to participate in the testing events, promoting vaccinations, but pursuing various testing regiments.
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Re: U.S. government is actively encouraging an Ebola outbreak in America.
At the end of the day, no matter the evidence, cases like these will always end at the conspiracy theory stage.
At the end of the day, no matter the evidence, cases like these will always end at the conspiracy theory stage.
Re: Chris Brown: "Ebola is population control"
I can't dispute any of what you just said. My whole point is, this isn't population control. People seem to believe that the government is behind this. This is nowhere near the scale of what we could do if so desired. This is nature, in action. Nothing more than that IMO.
I can't dispute any of what you just said. My whole point is, this isn't population control. People seem to believe that the government is behind this. This is nowhere near the scale of what we could do if so desired. This is nature, in action. Nothing more than that IMO.
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At number 4: I was actually going to make a thread on here concerning just that but it's too much effort as I have to do it all on my phone. Nice read. I'd rep you if I could
At number 4: I was actually going to make a thread on here concerning just that but it's too much effort as I have to do it all on my phone. Nice read. I'd rep you if I could
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Some guy came back from Africa with it I think.