[Discussion] How da hell is Doflamingo not a pirate king already?

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1- We have Pica who is the island itself
2- We have Viola with her fruit capable to see everything fruit
3- We have Sugar's fruit that only needs one contact to finish you
4- Jora can pretty much do the same as Sugar(but with art)
5- Trebol and his sticky fruit to fix all the people
6- Rocinante and his silence DF(for infiltrations)
7- Vergo and his great haki and rokushiki mastery
8- Doflamingo himself and hax moves like parasite, bird cage and co
9- Manshelly to heal every wounds

And had the potential to have Law's ultimate devil fruit(with the possibility of immortality) at his disposal

Not to mention Caesar and his dangerous smiley and the amount of smiley devil fruits(let alone the ones he probably secretely gathered like Ace's mera mera no mi).

With Manshelly's ability, he can literally fight recklessly in every battles, knowing that he could be healed anytime soon. With Manshelly's ability, they can fight for days and time after time, sapping the enemies strength to gradually and surely get the advantage. This ability is hax as fuck and judging by the way it works, it's doubtful, Doffy doesn't hide a bottle of water just in case(it would be stupid if he didn't, unless he smh didn't know or Manshelly's ability has some restrictions we don't know yet).

The fight against Law/Luffy for example could be easily determined in advance considering all what Doflamingo is to sap their strength, knowing that with Manshelly's healing power, he'll always come back at full strength, making every wounds futile for Luffy/Law

This strategical battle could especially be used against enemies out of your reach(Fujitora included).

How is this crew supposed to be inferior to yonkous crews with this amount of hax devil fruits flying around? With this amount of overpowered abilities? With him apparently possessing all important devil fruits that exist in the one piece world(it's the arc where we encountered the most amount of devil fruits)

This really hype Kaido pirates greatly for Doflamingo to fear him to this extent despite all this. It hypes the yonkou crew in general to be considered stronger than Doflamingo family despite all these hax abilities. Honestly, if it weren't for Luffy's luck and the amount of allies he got from the coloseum fights, even the alliance of Law and Strawhat pirates would have been decimated by this armada

I fear what would happen when we'll finally get to yonkou crews to this extent. I don't know how Oda will handle this without plot induced stupidity on the villain side allowing somehow the strawhats to win. Or will he continuously receive all those allies help in every arcs from now on? Could make sense seeing how much developed the current allies have been. Most likely they will continue to play important roles in the future, especially if Strawhats end up having Manshelly's abilities(getting her tears or something)
 

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That just shows how beastly the 4 yonkos are !!! Another point is Straw Hats are notable to let their guard down so easily at the beginning ! That's how they got in trouble against Sugar and Jora at the first place ! I don't think pirates like Kaido let Jora even Blink before he owns her !
 

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He is not the MC. Luffy = Plot.
It's that easy.

If you try to bring logic in everything, then you will get a headache.
But i agree that with Doffy and everything around him Oda gave us a good hype for the Yonkos. That is why i hope they won't be a disappointment.
 
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Probably because he can't find Raftel and I imagine a Yonko + 1st mate could solo the entirety of the Donquixote Pirates e.g. Whitebeard and Marco, Shanks and Ben
 

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Doflamingo said he isn't opposed to becoming Pirate King. What this means is that Doffy is neutral to being Pirate King. It's not something he is pursuing like Luffy is, but it's also not something he dismisses. Didn't he say his goal is to destroy the WG anyway?

Not only that, but becoming Pirate King is a journey. It's not just "Okay, once we follow this seven day plan, we'll become Pirate King and co." A journey like that needs preparations. All this means is that Doffy is currently in the preparation stages of whatever his plan is. For all we know, these things are Doffy preparing to destroy the WG and maybe become Pirate King if it's convenient.
 

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He does not have Mihawk and Shanks on his side. Shanks's mere presence will curl up, Sugar, Jora, Baby 5, Buffalo, Mansherry, Viola and Machvise.

And he would one shot trebol, diamante and Pica.
 

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Doffy is a beast but there are bigger beasts out there that will make him their prey like kaido shanks and even Mihawk
 
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with all the hype about the yokons, I really doubt if the strawhats are digging any of them soon. I have a feeling lola is related to Big Mom and when she finds out,she will let team Sanji go,after they've been well beaten of course. It's just too soon to fight and take any yokon down.
 

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Probably because he can't find Raftel and I imagine a Yonko + 1st mate could solo the entirety of the Donquixote Pirates e.g. Whitebeard and Marco, Shanks and Ben
Stop with this ridiculous logic. DD already negged someone like Jozu him and Vergo would holy stomp Marco. WB gets ganged raped by the rest.
 

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Because Luffy and an army of weirdo's is enough to stop Doflamingo apparently at this point. He has no chance to become PK.

Sidenote: For everyone raping Manshelly/Mansherry's name in this thread with a botched MS translation. The name is obviously written/pronounced as Mon Cherie.
 
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