[Spoilers] How could Sarutobi?

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Hiruzen also said the death reaper seal was permanent. Don't trust what random shinobi says, anything is possible...
 

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Because Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi.
 

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So Kakashi said when he was training Naruto that a person can't use the 5 nature transformation

But here you can see Sarutobi using it:

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How did he do it? Give me your ideas

The issue comes in your premise, Kakashi saying that a person can only have 2 Elements. What he actually said was that "Most Jounin have mastered 2 Elements", We also know that Kakashi can use 4 Types of elements. (Earth, Lightning, Fire and Water) But this is because of him using his Sharingan, but nonetheless we know it is possible for him to use atleast 4 different elements. With that said it stands to reason that Hiruzen could use all 5.

Lets not forget about the hidden KKG of the Sarutobi's which is that they are able to learn high ranked Jutsu fairly easy. Hiruzen was able to learn every Jutsu in the village and 5 elements and Konohamaru was able to learn Master Shadow Clone and Rasengan at an extremely young age. And lets not forget Asuma who achieved many feats in his own right.
 

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The issue comes in your premise, Kakashi saying that a person can only have 2 Elements. What he actually said was that "Most Jounin have mastered 2 Elements", We also know that Kakashi can use 4 Types of elements. (Earth, Lightning, Fire and Water) But this is because of him using his Sharingan, but nonetheless we know it is possible for him to use atleast 4 different elements. With that said it stands to reason that Hiruzen could use all 5.

Lets not forget about the hidden KKG of the Sarutobi's which is that they are able to learn high ranked Jutsu fairly easy. Hiruzen was able to learn every Jutsu in the village and 5 elements and Konohamaru was able to learn Master Shadow Clone and Rasengan at an extremely young age. And lets not forget Asuma who achieved many feats in his own right.

He only used fire in the anime!

Yes.. I've made it my mission to stomp this non-canon info.
 

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Its very possible. Kakuzu likely had them all

kakuzu wasn't technicaly using them. each of his hearts was using individual styles. you never see kakuzu use a fire attack without the fire heart, and he stops being able to harden his body when he loses the earth heart


on the other hand, why didnt he use the superior element on each of spirals attacks. if he had just used the fire on the air, water on the fire, air on the lightning, lightning on the earth and earth on the water, he would have taken out spiral. im fairly sure thats the right matchup.
 

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The issue comes in your premise, Kakashi saying that a person can only have 2 Elements. What he actually said was that "Most Jounin have mastered 2 Elements", We also know that Kakashi can use 4 Types of elements. (Earth, Lightning, Fire and Water) But this is because of him using his Sharingan, but nonetheless we know it is possible for him to use atleast 4 different elements. With that said it stands to reason that Hiruzen could use all 5.

Lets not forget about the hidden KKG of the Sarutobi's which is that they are able to learn high ranked Jutsu fairly easy. Hiruzen was able to learn every Jutsu in the village and 5 elements and Konohamaru was able to learn Master Shadow Clone and Rasengan at an extremely young age. And lets not forget Asuma who achieved many feats in his own right.

im not gonna even ask where u got that crap of hidden KKG of the sarutobi clan from.. Apparently u need to follow the manga and when you do open and use your eyes to read please. The sarutobi clan has no KKG or whatsoever. Just because hiruzen is skilled with everything and all doesnt give them a KKG. He is a talent and prodigy of his era nothing more. Known as the proffessor who knows all jutsu's in Konoha. Nothing more. And Asuma only had Wind+fire elements besides that he was an overal average shinobi compared to Kakashi and Guy.
So orochimaru has a talent aswell for learning jutsu's fast. Does this give him a KKG ability ?

no.
 

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haters gonna hate :D
 

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That was because Naruto didn't master all, now did he? It's very possible for Hiruzen
 

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Kakashi can be wrong, everyone can be wrong.
 

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This page also stands to reason that Kishi has implied in the past that using all 5 (6 if you include yin yang) is not reasonably possible in the Ninja world.

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Considering Jiraiya knew everything there was to know about the 3rd, either back then Kishi didn't plan to give Hiruzen all 5 or by 'unprecedented' he meant that Hiruzen was the only known exception.
 

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Considering Jiraiya knew everything there was to know about the 3rd, either back then Kishi didn't plan to give Hiruzen all 5 or by 'unprecedented' he meant that Hiruzen was the only known exception.

I think the unprecedented part was the fact Nagato did it at age 10.
 

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I think the unprecedented part was the fact Nagato did it at age 10.

Don't misunderstand, its not that he mastered every jutsu by 10, he simply had the ability since he was 10, because of the Rinnegan and having been trained to use ninjutsu in general. He simply had the potential to learn anything, so Jiraiya assumed he could use every element.
 

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We've known that Sarutobi was a master for long time. Ebisu mentioned it way back when. He said something along the lines of Sarutobi mastering every jutsu or something. Of course that's impossible, but now we can only assume that it means every jutsu pertaining to the 5 nature types.
 
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