How come characters other than Nagato don't use Shinra Tensei among other things?

[Floydical]

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[Ansatsuken]

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Ask Might Guy-

How he can counter Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tenin by himself if Obito focusing on him? He spoke to confident there.

Obito not using those Path is because it will used large chakra.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Dimension shifting and portals were her rinnegan powers, as well as infinite tsukyomi

_@: Didn't she absorb Sasuke's Amaterasu?

Those are rinnesharingan powers. Besides the sage said she only had sharingan powers + byakugan.

 

[Rogue Pit]

We can only interpret it as their own personal jutsu they developed and practiced.

Madara did not use Chibak Tensei but he summoning meteorites which was his form of gravitational control.

We also know that pain had many years to practice with Madara's Rinnegan.

Also Kaguya was more closely resembling sage art with mountaining manipulation as well as gaining chakra faster in different realms.

 

[Deadmed]

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What about later when he's fighting by himself and not controlling Bijuu's? He could have blown Kakashi off that platform in Kamui dimension and won with little effort.

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What about later when he isn't controlling the Bijuu? Why can't he use them in his fight with Kakashi? He could have blown him off the platform easy.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Obito couldn't use the paths because it required too much power

Madara wasn't using ST because making him untouchable would have made him even stronger (plot no jutsu)

Sasuke is still new to the Rinnegan, the jutsu he used were the ones he copied from seeing Madara use them

We can only interpret it as their own personal jutsu they developed and practiced.

Madara did not use Chibak Tensei but he summoning meteorites which was his form of gravitational control.

We also know that pain had many years to practice with Madara's Rinnegan.

Also Kaguya was more closely resembling sage art with mountaining manipulation as well as gaining chakra faster in different realms.

Nope, Nagato was also able to make a meteorite when he fought Itachi and Naruto. Every path grants the same ability but the strength of the ability depends on the user

 

[VongolaX]

Obito didn't have the chakra for it
Madara is lame
Kaguya is an idiot

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Madara and Obito already confirmed utilization

 

[Floydical]

Ask Might Guy-

How he can counter Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tenin by himself if Obito focusing on him? He spoke to confident there.

Obito not using those Path is because it will used large chakra.

I said in my first post that it is a truly weak reason, but its the reason Kishi gave us. Obito fought for at least 3 days straight without replenishing chakra. Kakashi and others got Kurama's chakra to refresh their supplies. Saying it took too much chakra is not as likely because of this. Its really just plot, but considering Nagato was the ultimate user of these jutsu and was defeated, it would have cheapened the plot if the same techniques were used and killed characters important to the plot. Obviously SM Naruto is still stronger than Kakashi or Gai sub 7 gates, but it makes sense for them not to have to fight against those techniques.

What about later when he's fighting by himself and not controlling Bijuu's? He could have blown Kakashi off that platform in Kamui dimension and won with little effort.



What about later when he isn't controlling the Bijuu? Why can't he use them in his fight with Kakashi? He could have blown him off the platform easy.

Same reason as above really. You could say its mostly plot, but it would have cheapened their battle if they were to deal with techniques that were already used to their maximum potential by Nagato and who was defeated. Basically Kishi wanted a new battle and that required forfeiting the use of those techniques.

 

[Transcendence]

Why are people still angry about this? Yes it's a powerful attack, but anybody it could have been used against would have tanked it already. Naruto and Sasuke both tanked a country level blast from their combined attacks, and there's no way Madara's Shinra Tensei is that powerful. Same with Sasuke's against Naruto who would tank it. It's nothing more than a get out free card when the user is under pressure (like if they got blitzed). It only looks overpowered because it was scaled way higher than anything we saw at that point in the series.

 

[Omar19992010]

Sasuke (Hasn't mastered Rinnegan)
Obito (He needs Duel Rinnegan)
Madara (Got Taken out by Black Zetsu before he got to showcase most of his Abilities)
Kaguya (She's an Idiot)

 

[New Dawn]

Shinra Tensei, Universal Pull, Laser beam arm, animal path, are they not able to use these abilities? Did they not figure out how to use them?

Obito, Madara, Sasuke, Kaguya, they mostly utilized it for basic things like absorbing techniques. I can't see why Kaguya wouldn't use Deva Path to repel her opponents to avoid being sealed, seems like a no brainer to me.

Each one has a unique Rinnegan ability. So Nagato was ST, pull, etc.

Sauce was ameno.

Or perhaps...

Nagato was the best Rinnegan user. Madara, Sauce, Kaguya, etc. didn't know how to use it as good as he did.

 

[Floydical]

Each one has a unique Rinnegan ability. So Nagato was ST, pull, etc.

Sauce was ameno.

Or perhaps...

Nagato was the best Rinnegan user. Madara, Sauce, Kaguya, etc. didn't know how to use it as good as he did.

This is simply not true. Rinnegan is not like Sharingan in that it does not have one unique ability. Everyone that has Rinnegan can utilize all the 6 paths. Obito could have used them if he wanted to, even with only 1 Rinnegan. Madara's abilities extend beyond the typical Rinnegan powers, ie his limbo tech. He did not use the 6 paths as he had better abilities to use. Madara certainly was a better Rinnegan user than Nagato was.

 

[Omar19992010]

Each one has a unique Rinnegan ability. So Nagato was ST, pull, etc.

Sauce was ameno.

Or perhaps...

Nagato was the best Rinnegan user. Madara, Sauce, Kaguya, etc. didn't know how to use it as good as he did.

Who's eyes were Nagato using again?

Madara already showed feats of Gravitational Pull when he pulled the Meteor in from Space and Sasuke was able to pull his Chibaku Tensei to him from like a Couple countries away so I don't know where you're getting the Idea that it's unique to Nagato.

 

[Knights Saotome]

is it worth noting that in part one there was a ninja who had a chakra adsorbing jutsu? only other example of such a jutsu i remember is rinnie tech, he was a sound ninja to.

 

[Xāvî1]

Bcos only nagato and hagoromo can use that jutsu!

 

[Deadmed]

Who's eyes were Nagato using again?

Madara already showed feats of Gravitational Pull when he pulled the Meteor in from Space and Sasuke was able to pull his Chibaku Tensei to him from like a Couple countries away so I don't know where you're getting the Idea that it's unique to Nagato.

Wasn't that chibaku tensei that Madara used?

 

[Xlad]

Considering the level of opponents they were fighting, don't you think the level of those abilities are a little bit overrated?

 

[Deadmed]

Considering the level of opponents they were fighting, don't you think the level of those abilities are a little bit overrated?

Well just like Rasengan and Chidori is as strong as the user you'd think abilities like Deva Path and laser arm blaster would scale to the user's strength. It does so with Chibaku Tensei after all.

 

[Xlad]

Well just like Rasengan and Chidori is as strong as the user you'd think abilities like Deva Path and laser arm blaster would scale to the user's strength. It does so with Chibaku Tensei after all.

That still wouldn't be as useful against opponents as high or higher. Sasuke didn't use the other paths because they can be countered by Naruto. Madara didn't use the other paths and used PS instead against Hashirama because he can counter all of them. Obitp didn't use the other paths since Team Kakashi had the means to counter them.

 

[Deadmed]

How do you counter shinra tensei?