How close does Itachi come to beating Madara?

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Yeah, Madara used Tsukyoumi with a spare sharingan that he’d taken from another Uchiha member (which I mentioned already). He’d already given his real eyes to Nagato. But it was still tskuyoumi nonetheless and we don’t know if it was weaker than Itachi’s because Madara didn’t use it with harmful intent, he was only using it to talk to a kid Obito. Like I said, genjutsu are null and void against Madara, especially since Madara can sense that he’s up against an Uchiha (as he did without even having eyes as he detected key attributes of Sasuke’s EMS). Also, Tskuyoumi doesn’t distort time, space, etc.; it’s a genjutsu. It distorts your senses to feel that way. Itachi’s finger genjutsu was broken by Sakura channeling her chakra into Naruto. Madara (whom has fiercely more chakra, battle experience, Sharingan genjutsu experience and intelligence than Itachi) would definitely be able to break that genjutsu (if he even falls pray to it - because as I said, Madara would be able to sense that Itachi’s an uchiha without even seeing him). Sorry, there’s too much to go back and read but I’m pretty sure Itachi isn’t faster than Madara. The spirit weapons yielded by Itachi are debatable because they’ve never been seen against people with enormous chakra reserves nor have they been seen against god-like entities. Someone earlier said the same thing and you told them that the “databook said it so it’s law,” but that same person also said that the databook referenced as “Temiri can blow away the universe.” So the data book isn’t reliable, and as it stands Itachi still can’t win. Not to mention that you didn’t discuss what happens if Madara drops a meteor on the battlefield or uses wood release. You also try to downplay Madara’s intelligence and experience. Smh
Tsukuyomi is considered Ninjutsu by the Databook.
NINJUTSU; KEKKEI GENKAI; Tsukuyomi
User: Uchiha Itachi
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: none

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Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu, born from the aforementioned hypnosis: Tsukuyomi. Originally, people on the face of the Earth live bound by limitations like time, gravity, and space; and how people exert their abilities within those restrictions is what separates the victors from the vanquished. But in the mental world where the caster drags their opponent, the Tsukuyomi jutsu gives them control over those very limitations!

Namely, this means inside the genjutsu, the physical world's common sense is completely irrelevant and opposing the caster is impossible. Somebody caught into the Tsukuyomi find themselves into a strange world of infinity, their fate entirely lying inside the caster's hands. Some time, they will undergo the torments of Hell, and some other time, they will be repeatedly shown a horrendous, hellish picture of agony and mayhem*, with no idea of when either of those will end. As a result, the poor prisoner can only wait until the collapse of their psyches...!! Even a body made of iron or the speed of light are powerless before this jutsu, which is the reason why it is feared as the most powerful.

Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labeled as the most powerful, the Uchiha clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes.
The caster drags thier opponent to the mental world. And the illusion is real and not fake. Madara can have a billion years of experience , which do not even matter in this fight. Itachi can cast illusions without eye contact , Dusk Crow Illusion and Epheremal are non-eye contact type illusions and he can control lots of people outside long range which not even Ao who detected Kotoamatsukami cannot detect. Add that power to Tsukuyomi , then you get a non eye contact Tsukuyomi. Itachi had age seven Hiruzen Intelligence. Madara cannot come close to that. Madara fighting blind would not rescue him from the illusions. Space and Substance are under Itachi's control , how will Madara move? Manga claims Itachi is completely invincible with spirit powers so Databook can be taken literally in this case.
 

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Tsukuyomi is considered Ninjutsu by the Databook.
NINJUTSU; KEKKEI GENKAI; Tsukuyomi
User: Uchiha Itachi
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: none

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Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu, born from the aforementioned hypnosis: Tsukuyomi. Originally, people on the face of the Earth live bound by limitations like time, gravity, and space; and how people exert their abilities within those restrictions is what separates the victors from the vanquished. But in the mental world where the caster drags their opponent, the Tsukuyomi jutsu gives them control over those very limitations!

Namely, this means inside the genjutsu, the physical world's common sense is completely irrelevant and opposing the caster is impossible. Somebody caught into the Tsukuyomi find themselves into a strange world of infinity, their fate entirely lying inside the caster's hands. Some time, they will undergo the torments of Hell, and some other time, they will be repeatedly shown a horrendous, hellish picture of agony and mayhem*, with no idea of when either of those will end. As a result, the poor prisoner can only wait until the collapse of their psyches...!! Even a body made of iron or the speed of light are powerless before this jutsu, which is the reason why it is feared as the most powerful.

Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labeled as the most powerful, the Uchiha clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes.
The caster drags thier opponent to the mental world. And the illusion is real and not fake. Madara can have a billion years of experience , which do not even matter in this fight. Itachi can cast illusions without eye contact , Dusk Crow Illusion and Epheremal are non-eye contact type illusions and he can control lots of people outside long range which not even Ao who detected Kotoamatsukami cannot detect. Add that power to Tsukuyomi , then you get a non eye contact Tsukuyomi. Itachi had age seven Hiruzen Intelligence. Madara cannot come close to that. Madara fighting blind would not rescue him from the illusions. Space and Substance are under Itachi's control , how will Madara move? Manga claims Itachi is completely invincible with spirit powers so Databook can be taken literally in this case.
Bruh, really? “Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu,

NOT TO MENTION THAT in that same description it practically says that ONLY MADARA COULD DEFEAT this technique. Lmfao fail.

But how about you quote my previous response and hit on those subjects as they appear. I literally already destroyed EVERY genjutsu argument you could possibly make. But seriously though, quote my previous post and respond to those points.
 
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Bruh, really? “Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu,

NOT TO MENTION THAT in that same description it practically says that ONLY MADARA COULD DEFEAT this technique. Lmfao fail.

But how about you quote my previous response and hit on those subjects as they appear. I literally already destroyed EVERY genjutsu argument you could possibly make. But seriously though, quote my previous post and respond to those points.
The last line is debunked by the fact Tobi out right said Sasuke never broke Itachi's Illusion.
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Sasuke had Indra's Spirit and The Cursed Seal as partners to break him out yet he could not break a single one of Itachi's Genjutsu. Madara has no hope of breaking any of Itachi's Illusions. Not every Illusion is literally an Illusion. Amaterasu is called the strongest physical attack yet how many physical things have it burned? It burned spirits like Eight Tails which proves that the strongest Genjutsu = Ninjutsu and the Strongest Ninjutsu = Genjutsu = Tsukuyomi.
 
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The last line is debunked by the fact Tobi out right said Sasuke never broke Itachi's Illusion.
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Sasuke had Indra's Spirit and The Cursed Seal as partners to break him out yet he could not break a single one of Itachi's Genjutsu. Madara has no hope of breaking any of Itachi's Illusions. Not every Illusion is literally an Illusion. Amaterasu is called the strongest physical attack yet how many physical things have it burned? It burned spirits like Eight Tails which proves that the strongest Genjutsu = Ninjutsu and the Strongest Ninjutsu = Genjutsu = Tsukuyomi.
Lmfao, so either you’re a troll or you’re a die hard Itachi jockey that can’t tolerate Itachi’s inferiority. Either way, Itachi loses and you still haven’t made a convincing argument (let alone a logical one) proving otherwise.

Anyway, I’ll break down your arguments further.

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Sasuke had Indra's Spirit and The Cursed Seal as partners to break him out yet he could not break a single one of Itachi's Genjutsu. Madara has no hope of breaking any of Itachi's Illusions.
Bruh, Sasuke didn’t even have his MS at that time. Regardless of if Indra’s Spirit was attached to him or not, he wasn’t fully developed. That’s like saying that Orochimaru had beat Sasuke even though he had Indra’s Spirit. Not to mention that I specifically said, “EMS Sasuke broke out of Itachi’s Tskuyoumi.” I actually meant Kabuto’s genjutsu* that Itachi and Sasuke freed one another from…so that was my mistake.

Moving on though, this portion of the Tskuyoumi from the databook that you provided explicitly states that Madara can break out of it:

“Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labeled as the most powerful, the Uchiha clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes.”
That genjutsu stuff was your only argument. With that out of the way, you’re nothing.
 

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Not really. Itachi can potentially beat madara upto MS. EMS and above are overkill though.
Lmfao no Itachi can’t. Madara and his brother Izuna were the strongest in the Uchiha clan at that time and they ONLY trained/sparred with one another. They even practiced strengthening their Mangekyou Sharingans against one another’s. I’m 100% certain that Itachi hasn’t been up against another MS Uchiha in his life. No way in the **** would he win. ??????
 

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Lmfao no Itachi can’t. Madara and his brother Izuna were the strongest in the Uchiha clan at that time and they ONLY trained/sparred with one another. They even practiced strengthening their Mangekyou Sharingans against one another’s. I’m 100% certain that Itachi hasn’t been up against another MS Uchiha in his life. No way in the **** would he win. ������
Using MS more weakens you. Reread manga first then tell me that izuna and madara sparred using MS sharingan. Because if they did then they were brain dead. Itachi has yata to complement his susano thus making it better than MS madara's. Plus he has amaterasu.
 

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Using MS more weakens you. Reread manga first then tell me that izuna and madara sparred using MS sharingan. Because if they did then they were brain dead. Itachi has yata to complement his susano thus making it better than MS madara's. Plus he has amaterasu.
Lmfao so three things: 1.) Lets not act like the yata mirror and that other spirit weapon are naturally part of Itachi’s susano’o. We all know that he’d stolen it and it wasn’t always part of his arsenal. That’s the bullshit you fan boys have been trying to pull for a long time now and I’m not having it, lol. (2.) Madara was going blind for some reason now wasn’t he? He wasn’t just going blind for the hell of it or was he? You tell me. (3.) Madara was physically capable of keeping up with base form Hashirama (albeit, Hashirama allowed him to) but Itachi isn’t anywhere near those feats. And like you said, MS weakens the wielder which means that Itachi is susceptible to blindness as well. Madara has a much higher chakra reserve, more battle experience, is smarter than Itachi and is Indra’s reincarnation. Madara at his peak in each transformation trumps Itachi at his peak. He literally cannot lose to someone that isn’t Hashirama.
 

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Lmfao so three things: 1.) Lets not act like the yata mirror and that other spirit weapon are naturally part of Itachi’s susano’o. We all know that he’d stolen it and it wasn’t always part of his arsenal. That’s the bullshit you fan boys have been trying to pull for a long time now and I’m not having it, lol. (2.) Madara was going blind for some reason now wasn’t he? He wasn’t just going blind for the hell of it or was he? You tell me. (3.) Madara was physically capable of keeping up with base form Hashirama (albeit, Hashirama allowed him to) but Itachi isn’t anywhere near those feats. And like you said, MS weakens the wielder which means that Itachi is susceptible to blindness as well. Madara has a much higher chakra reserve, more battle experience, is smarter than Itachi and is Indra’s reincarnation. Madara at his peak in each transformation trumps Itachi at his peak. He literally cannot lose to someone that isn’t Hashirama.
1. Did i say yata is part of itachi's natural arsenal? You got desperate there, didn't you =D
2. Madara was going blind because he had to use MS to fight hashirama just like itachi was going blind. Nothing different between the two here. You said he used to practice with izuna using MS which was pure BS. ;)
3. All speculations =D madara more smarter than itachi? =D man you have gone nuts =D And hashirama without wood style is nothing. He is average without it. And madara is strong no doubt but so is itachi. Using you logic i can say itachi was keeping up with SM kabuto who would beat your MS madara. And keep your only hashirama can beat him fanfic to youself because sasuke, naruto and black zetsu all handed his ass to him.
 

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1. Did i say yata is part of itachi's natural arsenal? You got desperate there, didn't you =D
2. Madara was going blind because he had to use MS to fight hashirama just like itachi was going blind. Nothing different between the two here. You said he used to practice with izuna using MS which was pure BS. ;)
3. All speculations =D madara more smarter than itachi? =D man you have gone nuts =D And hashirama without wood style is nothing. He is average without it. And madara is strong no doubt but so is itachi. Using you logic i can say itachi was keeping up with SM kabuto who would beat your MS madara. And keep your only hashirama can beat him fanfic to youself because sasuke, naruto and black zetsu all handed his ass to him.
1.) You got desperate adding Yama mirror and that blade to Itachi’s arsenal to, as you said, enhance his Susano’o. Lmfao don’t try to condescend when you destroyed your own argument.
2.) Lmfao but you just destroyed your own argument. Izuna had a MS too and didn’t use it against Tobirama because he saw the effects of its over usage as Madara battled Hashi and in their private training sessions. Lmfao so no bs, unless you can disprove this. I’ll wait.
3.)Lmfao what part was speculation? Lmfao Madara planned for literally everything prior and after his death without fail. Itachi didn’t even plan for a disease he acquired lmfao. Get the **** out of here lol. So using your logic, Itachi prime would be sufficient to battle Hashirama prime? You’re delusional but answer the question. And no, you can’t say that SM Kabuto would beat MS Madara because Madara’s more intelligent than Itachi. Lmfao Madara displayed a sensory ability capable of spanning an entire desert during the war arc. Itachi has no sensory ability. You’re an Itachi **** jockey with nothing to defend yourself with. Lmfao didn’t Madara kill Naruto and Sasuke? Also, didn’t Naruto and Sasuke ***** out after Madara landed after casting IT? Were they not standing there shaking in their boots? Lmfao I can’t wait to see your response.
 

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1.) You got desperate adding Yama mirror and that blade to Itachi’s arsenal to, as you said, enhance his Susano’o. Lmfao don’t try to condescend when you destroyed your own argument.
2.) Lmfao but you just destroyed your own argument. Izuna had a MS too and didn’t use it against Tobirama because he saw the effects of its over usage as Madara battled Hashi and in their private training sessions. Lmfao so no bs, unless you can disprove this. I’ll wait.
3.)Lmfao what part was speculation? Lmfao Madara planned for literally everything prior and after his death without fail. Itachi didn’t even plan for a disease he acquired lmfao. Get the **** out of here lol. So using your logic, Itachi prime would be sufficient to battle Hashirama prime? You’re delusional but answer the question. And no, you can’t say that SM Kabuto would beat MS Madara because Madara’s more intelligent than Itachi. Lmfao Madara displayed a sensory ability capable of spanning an entire desert during the war arc. Itachi has no sensory ability. You’re an Itachi **** jockey with nothing to defend yourself with. Lmfao didn’t Madara kill Naruto and Sasuke? Also, didn’t Naruto and Sasuke ***** out after Madara landed after casting IT? Were they not standing there shaking in their boots? Lmfao I can’t wait to see your response.
1. This is prime itachi who has yata and totsuka. It is not his natural arsenal but he has it. How old are you?
2. What difference does it make if izuna used MS against tobirama or not? Any one no matter how dumb would know after first usage of MS that it has side effects. Itachi knew that too. So what's the difference between madara or itachi regarding use of MS? If they used to practice with MS activated, how is that beneficial to cause of madara? Going blind early?

3. My my XD So MS madara can beat hashirama prime? If you answer no then let me remind you i am debating for itachi against MS madara not prime madara XD I'll ask again, how old are you?
 

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Lmfao, so either you’re a troll or you’re a die hard Itachi jockey that can’t tolerate Itachi’s inferiority. Either way, Itachi loses and you still haven’t made a convincing argument (let alone a logical one) proving otherwise.

Anyway, I’ll break down your arguments further.
I am not a fan of fanfics.


Bruh, Sasuke didn’t even have his MS at that time. Regardless of if Indra’s Spirit was attached to him or not, he wasn’t fully developed. That’s like saying that Orochimaru had beat Sasuke even though he had Indra’s Spirit. Not to mention that I specifically said, “EMS Sasuke broke out of Itachi’s Tskuyoumi.” I actually meant Kabuto’s genjutsu* that Itachi and Sasuke freed one another from…so that was my mistake.
Do not matter. Indra's Spirit is a partner which helps you break genjutsu and yet Tobi told Sasuke did not break even the smallest genjutsus among the several genjutsus Itachi casted during his fight. I do not care for fanfics.

Moving on though, this portion of the Tskuyoumi from the databook that you provided explicitly states that Madara can break out of it:



That genjutsu stuff was your only argument. With that out of the way, you’re nothing.
Tsukuyomi is a Ninjutsu. Give me proof Madara is immune to an S-rank Ninjutsu such as Tsukiyomi. So just mastering the Mangekyou makes you immune to Death Reaper Seal? Wtf? What Itachi said was repeated in the Databooks so it's not fact because same Itachi said Jiraiya can beat Pain and Akatsuki. Having Mangekyou is nothing before Tsukuyomi. Sasuke had a Above EMS Sharingan Master's Soul in his body and The Cursed Seals which greatly increases chakra potency and physical powers. If he could not do it , no one can. And Tobi did not even mention Tsukuyomi , just the normal Genjutsus. Imagine how devastating Tsukuyomi is. This fanboyism and denial of facts is not converting facts into fanfics. What will Madara do against the 80 , 000 shinobi controlling genjutsus? Lmfaoooo , he will get rekt , not even Ao who saw through KA can see through it , let alone Madara or you show me Madara coming close to seeing through an illusion of the caliber of , Kotoamatsukami.
 

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1. This is prime itachi who has yata and totsuka. It is not his natural arsenal but he has it. How old are you?
2. What difference does it make if izuna used MS against tobirama or not? Any one no matter how dumb would know after first usage of MS that it has side effects. Itachi knew that too. So what's the difference between madara or itachi regarding use of MS? If they used to practice with MS activated, how is that beneficial to cause of madara? Going blind early?

3. My my XD So MS madara can beat hashirama prime? If you answer no then let me remind you i am debating for itachi against MS madara not prime madara XD I'll ask again, how old are you?
1.) Lmfao “how old are you?” Sounding a little butthurt since I’m handing you your ass here lmfao. Nah, They’re using only natural ability with no spirit weapons aside from those granted by Susano’o naturally.
2.) Oh, so to clarify, you can’t disprove me and therefore you’ve been talking bs this entire time lmfao. “Any one no matter how dumb would know after first usage of MS that it has side effects,” Except that the first usage DOESN’T actually have side effects. Neither Madara, Izuna, Itachi,Fugaku nor Obito are stated to have had side effects from the first usage of the MS. So there you are again with another ass pull. Also, Madara And Izuna were the FIRST one’s to EVER awaken the MS. They didn’t know that they could possibly go blind until Madara had pushed it too far and had potentially warned Izuna not to overuse his. Lmfao everything Itachi knows about the sharingan/MS is because Madara passed the knowledge down to other Uchiha, like Obito. Undoubtedly Obito passed on Madara’s secret teachings onto Itachi. No one before him knew of the EMS either so you straddling Itachi isn’t benefitting you at all lmfao.

3.) Lmfao you illiterate jockey. Does me stating “Madara was physically capable of keeping up with base form Hashirama (albeit, Hashirama allowed him to) but Itachi isn’t anywhere near those feats” ring a bell? And so I ask again, you degenerate, you’re saying that Itachi would be able to take on Hashirama prime evenly? Especially since you said:
And hashirama without wood style is nothing. He is average without it
 

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I am not a fan of fanfics.
But clearly you are though. Lmfao

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Do not matter. Indra's Spirit is a partner which helps you break genjutsu and yet Tobi told Sasuke did not break even the smallest genjutsus among the several genjutsus Itachi casted during his fight. I do not care for fanfics.
What a fail troll. You’re really trying to say that it doesn’t matter if a non-MS goes up against a MS? Lmfao how about you prove to me that being Indra’s reincarnation helps you break genjutsu. Lmfao more of your fanfics that you allegedly aren’t a fan of. You still didn’t dissect my earlier scenario either but what else it to be expected.

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Tsukuyomi is a Ninjutsu. Give me proof Madara is immune to an S-rank Ninjutsu such as Tsukiyomi. So just mastering the Mangekyou makes you immune to Death Reaper Seal? Wtf? What Itachi said was repeated in the Databooks so it's not fact because same Itachi said Jiraiya can beat Pain and Akatsuki. Having Mangekyou is nothing before Tsukuyomi. Sasuke had a Above EMS Sharingan Master's Soul in his body and The Cursed Seals which greatly increases chakra potency and physical powers. If he could not do it , no one can. And Tobi did not even mention Tsukuyomi , just the normal Genjutsus. Imagine how devastating Tsukuyomi is. This fanboyism and denial of facts is not converting facts into fanfics. What will Madara do against the 80 , 000 shinobi controlling genjutsus? Lmfaoooo , he will get rekt , not even Ao who saw through KA can see through it , let alone Madara or you show me Madara coming close to seeing through an illusion of the caliber of , Kotoamatsukami.
Lmfao so I noticed how you deleted the text to summary of Tskuyoumi I put within that box. But fret not, I’ll repost EXACTLY how Madara would defeat that Genjutsu once again. Here it is:

Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labeled as the most powerful, the Uchiha clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes.

Anyway, you’re clearly a fan fic fanatic because you’re spewing more bs than Oblivionx has. Lmfao and you’re really serious about attempting to make believe that Tskuyoumi is a Ninjutsu despite YOUR OWN EVIDENCE THAT YOU PROVIDED STATING THAT IT’S A GENJUTSU and nothing more. Rofl, you’re done.
 

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But clearly you are though. Lmfao



What a fail troll. You’re really trying to say that it doesn’t matter if a non-MS goes up against a MS? Lmfao how about you prove to me that being Indra’s reincarnation helps you break genjutsu. Lmfao more of your fanfics that you allegedly aren’t a fan of. You still didn’t dissect my earlier scenario either but what else it to be expected.



Lmfao so I noticed how you deleted the text to summary of Tskuyoumi I put within that box. But fret not, I’ll repost EXACTLY how Madara would defeat that Genjutsu once again. Here it is:

Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labeled as the most powerful, the Uchiha clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes.

Anyway, you’re clearly a fan fic fanatic because you’re spewing more bs than Oblivionx has. Lmfao and you’re really serious about attempting to make believe that Tskuyoumi is a Ninjutsu despite YOUR OWN EVIDENCE THAT YOU PROVIDED STATING THAT IT’S A GENJUTSU and nothing more. Rofl, you’re done.
Do not matter. Tsukuyomi is a Ninjutsu which is why people die when put in it by eroding thier molecules and getting rid of thier oxygen. Prove how MS users fo not need oxygen to breathe , then we will have a debate. Until then fanfics are of no concrete values. Indra is a partner , a human being who transmigrated into Sasuke as chakra. His chakra will be injected through Sasuke's Body to repel the illusion if he could. Bring something more concrete.
 

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Do not matter. Tsukuyomi is a Ninjutsu which is why people die when put in it by eroding thier molecules and getting rid of thier oxygen. Prove how MS users fo not need oxygen to breathe , then we will have a debate. Until then fanfics are of no concrete values.
Lmfao I don’t care, I’ll keep feeding the troll so let’s continue.

Oh, so if all of the validated information that I’ve provided (even the information that you provided which I used against you) doesn’t count then your fan fiction doesn’t count either. All versions of Madara solos all Itachis with absolutely no effort at all. Simple as that.
 

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Lmfao I don’t care, I’ll keep feeding the troll so let’s continue.

Oh, so if all of the validated information that I’ve provided (even the information that you provided which I used against you) doesn’t count then your fan fiction doesn’t count either. All versions of Madara solos all Itachis with absolutely no effort at all. Simple as that.
Itachi soloes Madara and that is a fact. Itachi was fooling Kakashi when he said that so he can keep his cover. Do not care for fan fics.
 

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Itachi soloes Madara and that is a fact. Itachi was fooling Kakashi when he said that so he can keep his cover. Do not care for fan fics.
Lmfao nope, Madara wins period. For everyone else, scroll up and see how I dismantled this guy. It’s quite comical to say the least.
 
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Lmfao nope, Madara wins period. For everyone else, scroll up and see how I dismantled this guy. It’s quite comical to say the least.
It's quite comedic how you have not countered even one of my posts. Fanfics and cries and nothing else. This guy thinks MS users do not need oxygen to breathe so I did not expect much any ways.
 

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It's quite comedic how you have not countered even one of my posts. Fanfics and cries and nothing else. This guy thinks MS users do not need oxygen to breathe so I did not expect much any ways.
Lmfao says the guy that think Tskuyoumi is ninjutsu and is on the level of Yin-yang release techniques that allow a user to alter reality. And apparently the Tskuyoumi allows Itachi to teleport people to a different dimension (IRL), take oxygen out of the kagebushin but IRL though, not in an illusion. XD Lol Herp Derp, scroll up and read. Fan doc fanatics would have a field day in your mind lol
 
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