How can you believe Nagato > Hashirama...

[Enton]

What the hell is this? Nagato goes airborne and obliterates Hashirama without knowledge. If you think Hashirama could survive a FULL Shinra Tensei, and thus implying that his bones are stronger than stone and wood (materials of Konoha houses), then you're just deluded. Nagato could draw him in with Bansho Tenin and then take his soul. Hashirama can't even move when Bansho Tenin is being used, so he can't counter.

It's funny how the eyes of the most powerful shinobi in the manga (So6P), the eyes of a GOD, are being underrated here. We talking about the most complete Rinnegan user we have seen in the manga interms of Nagato. You expect Hashirama to focus on 7 boss summons whilst fighting Nagato? GTFO.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Why is this still going on? :sy:

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Actually Hashiramas trees are more massive than rocks, for example Madaras Mokuton tendrils crushed Oonokis big stone golem. It is simply the amount, Hashirama covers the whole landscape with them, only one tendril is 10 times bigger than a human. If Chibaku Tensei would crush the surroundings into splinters, Chibaku Tensei would consist out of pebbles or powder. But no, it consists out of big rocks. It attracts the surroundings, yes, but it doesn't vrush them into splinters.

Right look when Nagato did a chibaku tensei he did it in a forest

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The core is not made up out of trees but rock

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Rocks are harder then trees also lets say Hashirama is hiding in the Trees he gets split up by Nagato concentrating killing him

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[Ryuu..]

Le Bolded; LOL Nagato created Pain...Pain is 6 people, the greatest sync of 6 people I've seen through the Naruto Series. Even if he is stronger in one body, he did create 6 bodies that he approved to fight as him. also Naruto beat 5 of this 6 by himself :3

Le Underlined; Nagato did not win, when throughout the fight did you see Naruto use Kurama's charka? You think Kurama was going to sit back and let Naruto get captured?I mean its not like he isn't aware of whats going on outside. Also you can't compare the two fights, Pain Pinned Naruto, Hashi defeated Madara.

Also you explanation is highly uncounted for because we barely know anything about HASHI's arsenal of skills. Your just using Peins arsenal against Hashi's two known skills... completely unfair.

I mean come on, HASHI beat Madara.... Uchiha Madara one of the first people to MASTER not just unlock, MASTER the Sharingan....

Pain quite clearly won the match but if you believe otherwise then that's you.

Until we learn more about Hashirama's arsenal how can you argue otherwise?

 

[ShishaMastah420]

What the hell is this? Nagato goes airborne and obliterates Hashirama without knowledge. If you think Hashirama could survive a FULL Shinra Tensei, and thus implying that his bones are stronger than stone and wood (materials of Konoha houses), then you're just deluded. Nagato could draw him in with Bansho Tenin and then take his soul. Hashirama can't even move when Bansho Tenin is being used, so he can't counter.

It's funny how the eyes of the most powerful shinobi in the manga (So6P), the eyes of a GOD, are being underrated here. We talking about the most complete Rinnegan user we have seen in the manga interms of Nagato. You expect Hashirama to focus on 7 boss summons whilst fighting Nagato? GTFO.

What do you know of Hashirama's skills besides he can summon wood and heal himself without hand signs?

Hashirama has been hyped to the level of So6p simply over two of his skills, get yo shitz straight.

Also Nagato wasn't a complete Rinnegan user, he stated himself So6p was on another level than him, how is it that he is complete?

 

[badoera]

Nagato could beat Itachi depending on if he was sick or not, people underestimate Nagato too much :sy:

Nagato was crippled and itachi was sick when fighting sasuke, they both have advantages and disadvantages..

nagato has strong destruction moves while itachi has inteligence and awesome jutsus

i do know nagato might be able to win, but i do think itachi has the upper hand :/

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Pain quite clearly won the match but if you believe otherwise then that's you.

Until we learn more about Hashirama's arsenal how can you argue otherwise?

Heh true. We can only make assumptions but those assumptions have to be accurate and has to have something to base them off of.

Le Underlined; I''ll put it like this, if pain had truly won that fight, Kurama would have been in Gedo. We have seen many instances in Naruto where someone gets pinned, but that does not mean that person is defeated.

I respect your opinion but this is what Kurama thinks of your opinion.
This is your opinion:

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Kurama's response:

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Also after re-reading the Manga, i realized Nagato absolutely didn't defeat Naruto, Naruto had another Sage Mode Clone, which was released because of Kurama's Charka, and also you said Pein said he captured Naruto? He said that twice and both times Naruto came out of the situation free...Soo like i was saying Pein just jumped the gun, he never defeated Naruto. He underestimated Naruto if anything.

 

[Enton]

What do you know of Hashirama's skills besides he can summon wood and heal himself without hand signs?

Hashirama has been hyped to the level of So6p simply over two of his skills, get yo shitz straight.

Also Nagato wasn't a complete Rinnegan user, he stated himself So6p was on another level than him, how is it that he is complete?

So the Hashirama fans are resorting to a guessing game. How cute.

The Sage just had a shitload more chakra than him.

 

[true enigma]

No one cares wheter hes one of your favourites that doesnt mean your right

I understand all this hashirama hype because he owned perfect susanoo without preta and the kyubbi but Hashirama cannot counter

Celestial Terra Blast

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Shinra Tensei

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which funny enough blew up a forest

Nagato flying can just spam powerful attack from above Fire style, water style,earth style , summons like ceberus, Divine Attractor while charging up a chou Shinra Tensei.Now baring in mind a Chou Shinra Tensei through deva blew up Konoha and a normal one through Nagato blew up a forest,take a guess wheter a it would blow apart wood when it turned houses made out of bricks in konoha to dust

To defeat Nagato uncontrolled you must be able to fly because he can just stay up in the air with preta path enabled... pathetic yes but he can do it.

I can see why Hashirama fans say he can beat Nagato because hes a complete beast but other people with agendas like you come and say oh yh Hashirama>Nagato Itachi>Nagato.Itachi ran away from a controlled crippled Nagato until he had a plan to strike

Think about how strong a character is if Itachi has to run away to form a plan

Nagato can absorb Mokuton as well because it is water and earth combined the same way Oil is a mix of elements.It would come down as classified as ninjutsu as well as its not Genjutsu or Taijutsu and all Ninjutsu can be absorbed.

Hashirama would probably beat Gedo+Ceberus along with the others then get trapped in Celestial Terra Blast which he cant counter...stop it

Me saying he is a favorite of mine is not mentioned for u to care otherwised i would have asked if u did. It demontrates how i wouldnt troll him, N dnt group me saying "ppl like you" because i use logic and people like u say ratation beats amaturasu and nagato can sense a tsukyomi....really??? hashirama would have to be on a whole different scale than a powerhouse cripple who got defeated on multiple occasions.

Hashi can compete with madara for a reason and edo madara lasted longer than edo nagato for a reason. The two are not in the same league, i expect u to figure some way out to ignore the manga tho and come back with a lame attack he can do that u think he can win the whole fight with. Go ahead im waitn...

 

[ShishaMastah420]

So the Hashirama fans are resorting to a guessing game. How cute.

The Sage just had a shitload more chakra than him.

If to truly use the Rinnegan on a complete level you need massive So6p like Charka, how is it that Nagato use it completely?

Le Underlined; This comment is irrelevant,i never stated that i am a Fan or Hashirama.

 

[itachi5935]

Why no new episode this week?

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Me saying he is a favorite of mine is not mentioned for u to care otherwised i would have asked if u did. It demontrates how i wouldnt troll him, N dnt group me saying "ppl like you" because i use logic and people like u say ratation beats amaturasu and nagato can sense a tsukyomi....really??? hashirama would have to be on a whole different scale than a powerhouse cripple who got defeated on multiple occasions.

Hashi can compete with madara for a reason and edo madara lasted longer than edo nagato for a reason. The two are not in the same league, i expect u to figure some way out to ignore the manga tho and come back with a lame attack he can do that u think he can win the whole fight with. Go ahead im waitn...

Lol ive never said the 1st part and at the 2nd part Nagato could sense when Itachi closed his eyes that he was using a MS technique it wasnt even Amateseru

Nagato killed himself the first time

2nd time Nagato was sealed by Itachi with Naruto and Bee and Kabuto admitted it was his fault Nagato got sealed

Ok how can Hashirama defeat Nagato in control of his body flying and spamming techniques from above?

 

[true enigma]

Lol ive never said the 1st part and at the 2nd part Nagato could sense when Itachi closed his eyes that he was using a MS technique it wasnt even Amateseru

Nagato killed himself the first time

2nd time Nagato was sealed by Itachi with Naruto and Bee and Kabuto admitted it was his fault Nagato got sealed

Ok how can Hashirama defeat Nagato in control of his body flying and spamming techniques from above?

The first time before nagato killed himself he and all his paths were defeated and if naruto wanted he would have killed him if konan didnt interfere.

He didnt sense anything but amaturasu actually because the heat most likely would change the pressure in the atmosphere. Notice he didnt sense any genjutsus or KA in that fight.

Also the second time they had admitted nothing of the sort. Kobuto used nagato effectively as well and he is one of the smartest in the manga. Kishi displayed itachis abilities to dominate in that fight for a reason. It gave u an idea of where the two are in terms of power and skill.

As for hashi much is unknown but i do no he has more chakra and is intelligent enough to exploit his mobility weakness and interval disadvantage with his tech. I could imagine Hashi goin on a serious wood clone and mokuton assult with poison and all like weve never seen if he needed to. Ill mention also that hashi is definitely NOT a favorite of mine but im not blind enough to see nagato ahead of somebody who can defeat madara. THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF NAGATOS TECH. All.

 

[Rikodu senin madara]

Actually konohamaru>nagato. Nagato wouldn't even dream of fighting a shinobi of hashi's calibre.

 

[true enigma]

What the hell is this? Nagato goes airborne and obliterates Hashirama without knowledge. If you think Hashirama could survive a FULL Shinra Tensei, and thus implying that his bones are stronger than stone and wood (materials of Konoha houses), then you're just deluded. Nagato could draw him in with Bansho Tenin and then take his soul. Hashirama can't even move when Bansho Tenin is being used, so he can't counter.

It's funny how the eyes of the most powerful shinobi in the manga (So6P), the eyes of a GOD, are being underrated here. We talking about the most complete Rinnegan user we have seen in the manga interms of Nagato. You expect Hashirama to focus on 7 boss summons whilst fighting Nagato? GTFO.

Dont forget Mdara was the one with the genuine So6p eyes and somehow hashi defeated him. Nagato has the cheap rip off with no more than half the abilities because he lacks the EMS that comes before and he is not a Uchiha.

This should help your logic because now u could see how nagato is not on the level of either of them. No doubt he is strong tho, but not that strong. The original user(madara) will aleays be better.

 

[Midday]

Dont forget Mdara was the one with the genuine So6p eyes and somehow hashi defeated him. Nagato has the cheap rip off with no more than half the abilities because he lacks the EMS that comes before and he is not a Uchiha.

This should help your logic because now u could see how nagato is not on the level of either of them. No doubt he is strong tho, but not that strong. The original user(madara) will aleays be better.

Madara did not have rinnengan when he fought Hashirama. I didn't know Nagato's rinnengan was fake either.