How can sasuke defeat him without the bijuu ???

Can sasuke win without the bijuus


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Well him knowing that Naruto was/is Rikudou he had no choice but to sub-due the TB.. He knew that he didn't have full control over his Rinne & he already accepted that Naruto had CC on a scale he never imagine.

His revolution speech was real & if he had the chance he would've killed Naruto.

The fact that he took out the TB first!. Showed that he knew he would lose if Naruto could contact them at anytime. Remember he had heard every1's speech including Hogo's who said Naruto will be the meeting place for the TB. (Which is probably what threw him in a samsara/loop IMO)

He wasn't going to win without sub-doing the TB first. (He was being shinobi by taking control over his enemies power) But at the end of it all, the body beats the eyes.

Hogo/Hamura>Kaguya
Alive Hashirama>Alive Madara
Naruto>Sasuke

All the eyes had ideals of control while the body had ideals of freedom. Hogoromo wins at the end of the day because it was his plan to unit shinobi.

Ashura>Indra

Kishi express this through the manga/anime
 

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Hahaha,you make it sound as if sasuke can easily come into contact with naruto,not to mention draining naruto chakra would turn him to a toad statue and regarding jutsu,preta has been sjown to only absorb small scale jutsu,it can't handle anything on rsm level.

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There is a preta path barrier, that absorbed any form of chakra that come into contact with it...try reading the manga and actually comprehending it... so he would never have to come into contact with naruto who uses mainly projectiles jutsu that the barrier would easily absorb...

Preta path absorbs any type of chakra/energy that is what the manga says and what the databook says...


You can't overwhelm chakra absorption, you only hope it can't absorb other rasengan naruto has while in rsm, it just more powerful chakra from base naruto to rsm that's the only difference in the jutsu's naruto uses so how can say it can't absorb anything on that level when moron sasuke himself is on rsm level that's the point of the rinnegan/ ocular power to rival physical power/rsm...
 

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lOL,don't know if you're trolling or what. He can,read the op again,it is a generally depicted fact that sasuke could only use the indra arrow technique,after merging his susanoo,with the bijuu chakra. Oh,BTW,the full appearance of sasuke perfect susanoo was already depicted in the gaiden. For all i know,,sasuke susanoo only gains the appearance it had in vote2 when it is merged with bijuu chakra. That is all.
No it's not Indra's arrow is just a lightning jutsu. Sasuke used the bijuu's chakra as a substitute because he himself was almost out of chakra. Sasuke turned the bijuu's chakra into lightning. By your logic Sasuke have something stronger than Indra's arrow since he said "currently the most powerful move in my arsenal" fact is Indra's arrow is just a lightning technique.

Not really if that was the case then his PS would have looked like that when he first covered Kurama.

Anyone that think Naruto >> Sasuke shouldn't read the manga anymore if they're still denying Kishimoto's words that they're equals.
 

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Well him knowing that Naruto was/is Rikudou he had no choice but to sub-due the TB.. He knew that he didn't have full control over his Rinne & he already accepted that Naruto had CC on a scale he never imagine.

His revolution speech was real & if he had the chance he would've killed Naruto.

The fact that he took out the TB first!. Showed that he knew he would lose if Naruto could contact them at anytime. Remember he had heard every1's speech including Hogo's who said Naruto will be the meeting place for the TB. (Which is probably what threw him in a samsara/loop IMO)

He wasn't going to win without sub-doing the TB first. (He was being shinobi by taking control over his enemies power) But at the end of it all, the body beats the eyes.

Hogo/Hamura>Kaguya
Alive Hashirama>Alive Madara
Naruto>Sasuke

All the eyes had ideals of control while the body had ideals of freedom. Hogoromo wins at the end of the day because it was his plan to unit shinobi.

Ashura>Indra

Kishi express this through the manga/anime


None of that is true...about the vs


Hago/hamura < kaguya....they never beat Kaguya they beat a weaker version of her which is the juubi a mindless beast that is just angry

Alive Hashirama during the final valley only beat madara due to madara plan which we all know was to get part of hashi flesh to fulfill all this shit...and he did so he accomplished that goal during that fight...also hashi barely won...furthermore madara had a second chance at life so obviously hashi is far less than Godara but even blind sm madara is greater than alive Hashirama and sure ass hell 1 rinne sm madara is too...


Naruto is not more powerful than sasuke...Sasuke was extremely nerfed in that fight, sasuke got an eye power up with means certain jutsu's that that eye uses that he never used before but somehow was suppose to fight at maximum capability? Uh no, he needed more time than a couple hours to master that eye even the kyuubi said naruto was lucky sasuke hadn't mastered the eyes jutsu's all the while naruto got physical power ups which means instant maximum strength maximum speed maximum durability maximum stamina everything instantly maxed out...now fast forward to the time of the The Last movie and I guarantee that sasuke who bursts meteors with his basic chidori shit on naruto and even adult sasuke is far better than adult naruto...


Ashura clearly had help to beat indra the manga said so and the anime showed it...so again fail
 

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This thread fails simply because it's sasuke without the bijuu, lol but Naruto to be in rsm needs the bijuu power as well...furthermore the rinnegan has priority over the bijuu it has the power in multiple ways to control them via genjutsu, Gedo Statue, ct...it's meant to own them and sasuke used that fact and did so...
 

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It's not a different story. Susano'o, as I've just told you, can outrun the explosion of the attack. If both Naruto's attack and Susano'o hit the meteors at around the same time, that means Susano'o sliced completely through it (in multiple angles as well might I add) in the time it took for Rasenshuriken to detonate completely. Kaguya could react and she was shown looking right at the attack. She was going to absorb it but failed, which is why she barely took damage. My point exactly that they were blown by the shockwaves of the attack. Seeing as how they weren't that far, the fact that the actual explosion didn't reach them means it wasn't that large.

No,kaguya could not react. why didn't she fly away or a try to open a portal to escape. Answer is,because the she would still have been caught up in the explosion and btw they were far from the attack. It might have looked as if naruto was close but he was pretty far considering that sasuke was already heading towards naruto at a very fast speed after being punched away by kaguya + the added speed of the shockwave,that should have covered a long distance.

And about the meteor part,sasuke didn't outrun any explosion,the first tbb rasenshuriken explosion range covered only the range of one meteor. There were other meteors there,sasuke could have been slicing the meteors at the other side,in which the tbbrs explosion didn't cover.
 

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No,kaguya could not react. why didn't she fly away or a try to open a portal to escape. Answer is,because the she would still have been caught up in the explosion and btw they were far from the attack. It might have looked as if naruto was close but he was pretty far considering that sasuke was already heading towards naruto at a very fast speed after being punched away by kaguya + the added speed of the shockwave,that should have covered a long distance.

And about the meteor part,sasuke didn't outrun any explosion,the first tbb rasenshuriken explosion range covered only the range of one meteor. There were other meteors there,sasuke could have been slicing the meteors at the other side,in which the tbbrs explosion didn't cover.

You said sasuke " could have " which means you don't know so don't speak on things or try to counter things you don't have the answers for it only makes you look like you're trolling and lying
 

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There is a preta path barrier, that absorbed any form of chakra that come into contact with it...try reading the manga and actually comprehending it... so he would never have to come into contact with naruto who uses mainly projectiles jutsu that the barrier would easily absorb...

Preta path absorbs any type of chakra/energy that is what the manga says and what the databook says...


You can't overwhelm chakra absorption, you only hope it can't absorb other rasengan naruto has while in rsm, it just more powerful chakra from base naruto to rsm that's the only difference in the jutsu's naruto uses so how can say it can't absorb anything on that level when moron sasuke himself is on rsm level that's the point of the rinnegan/ ocular power to rival physical power/rsm...

lol,i'm done with you. Preta path absorbtion technique is only used to absorb ninjutsu. ThAT Is how ninjutsu is absorbed. The barrier spins chakra towards the opposite direction. Physical contact is needed for direct chakra absorbtion. Honestly,you're not worth my replies. Good day
 

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No it's not Indra's arrow is just a lightning jutsu. Sasuke used the bijuu's chakra as a substitute because he himself was almost out of chakra. Sasuke turned the bijuu's chakra into lightning. By your logic Sasuke have something stronger than Indra's arrow since he said "currently the most powerful move in my arsenal" fact is Indra's arrow is just a lightning technique.

Not really if that was the case then his PS would have looked like that when he first covered Kurama.

Anyone that think Naruto >> Sasuke shouldn't read the manga anymore if they're still denying Kishimoto's words that they're equals.

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: i'M DONE HERE.
 

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lol,i'm done with you. Preta path absorbtion technique is only used to absorb ninjutsu. ThAT Is how ninjutsu is absorbed. The barrier spins chakra towards the opposite direction. Physical contact is needed for direct chakra absorbtion. Honestly,you're not worth my replies. Good day

Lol stupid the chakra is absorbed wherever it hits on the barrier...it isn't spinning any direction never once did, I didn't see killer bee chakra spin the opposite direction when nagat absorbed his v2 chakra cloak right off his ass but you were saying???

Lol yes physical contact is needed in order for the barrier to absorb whatever chakra it's facing I never said it didnt, I said preta path barrier doesn't need to make contact directly with naruto it only has to make physical contact with the projectile jutsu naruto uses...


You mad now that you can even counter 1 jutsu that counters 99% of naruto's jutsu's


So sad

#Bodied

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#Easy

Lol you tried to tell me preta path absorbs ninjutsu...lol it absorbs chakra stupid which shinobi use in the form of ninjutsu....it can absorb plain as chakra as well just ask killer bee who had his whole v2 chakra cloak stripped right off his ass against nagato at Pont blank in a matter of a couple seconds if that...it absorbs chakra of any kind no matter the type or nature of the chakra or form stupid stay mad and countered


Also you says physical contact is needed for direct chakra absorption when I never said it wasnt...I specifically spoke about naruto who uses mainly long range projectile jutsu's and since he knows about preta path I highly doubt he would fight that close range so he would be usin those projectile jutsu's he normally uses in 100% of all of his battles...btw nagato's preta path barrier itself is actually called Blockin Absorption Seal...hence the name block meaning it blocks or stops the jutsu from advancing, then absorbs the jutsu or chakra...furthermore nagato's preta path barrier absorbed part of kcm naruto's cloak along with his rasengan when naruto used a chakra arm to attack nagato from above while nagato had him by the throat using the soul removal jutsu on naruto so nagato doesn't need direct contact body to body to absorb chakra a the point of the barrier is to stop/block the jutsu/chakra and then absorb it itself, that's how you attack and absorb at the same time which is what kyuubi said they were lucky sasuke hadn't mastered the rinne and couldn't do that
 
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Why can't he? He used the same Susanoo in the Boruto movie that used Indra's arrow.
It seem you forgot the part about the susanoo being merged with kurama.

Go back and read the manga, Ameno range is long.. Look at the scans when he Ameno with Susanoo and knock down one of Naruto avatar clones

I don't remember denying ameno's range is improved when used with susanoo. All i said is the distance between naruto and his attacks surpasses the ameno range.

Prove it? Databook says preta is a bottomless pit... Meaning no limit. Has preta ever failed to absorb any attack it attempted?? Nope.

Dude,preta path ninjutsu absorbtion has only been shown to absorb small scale jutsu. Even kaguya superior absorbtion couldn't absorb naruto tailed beasts rasenshuriken. The sheer amount of power and force would blow sasuke away.

If you think this can absorb naruto's large scale jutsus,I'm not gonna argue with you anymore.
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No,kaguya could not react. why didn't she fly away or a try to open a portal to escape. Answer is,because the she would still have been caught up in the explosion and btw they were far from the attack. It might have looked as if naruto was close but he was pretty far considering that sasuke was already heading towards naruto at a very fast speed after being punched away by kaguya + the added speed of the shockwave,that should have covered a long distance.

And about the meteor part,sasuke didn't outrun any explosion,the first tbb rasenshuriken explosion range covered only the range of one meteor. There were other meteors there,sasuke could have been slicing the meteors at the other side,in which the tbbrs explosion didn't cover.

I already told you, she was trying to absorb it. If you think she wasn't then Sasuke doesn't even have to dodge the attack because the best it could do was rip some clothing. I never said Sasuke outran an explosion. I said they attack two different meteors at around the same time. That means in the time the Rasenshuriken expanded Sasuke had already sliced through the the entire diameter of the meteor he was attacking multiple times. The diameter of the meteor is comparable to that of the explosion of the Tailed Beast Bomb Rasenshuriken, which means Sasuke can outrun it.
 

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he simply can't. There is no way Sasuke can directly counter Ashura Avatar's firepower imo.
 

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I already told you, she was trying to absorb it. If you think she wasn't then Sasuke doesn't even have to dodge the attack because the best it could do was rip some clothing. I never said Sasuke outran an explosion. I said they attack two different meteors at around the same time. That means in the time the Rasenshuriken expanded Sasuke had already sliced through the the entire diameter of the meteor he was attacking multiple times. The diameter of the meteor is comparable to that of the explosion of the Tailed Beast Bomb Rasenshuriken, which means Sasuke can outrun it.

ok,i see your point now.But regarding kaguya,if it was possible to evade the jutsu she would have.
 

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ok,i see your point now.But regarding kaguya,if it was possible to evade the jutsu she would have.

I don't think you know Kaguya's mentality. She prioritized absorbing chakra and if Naruto decided to throw free chakra at her then why would she try to run away?
 

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VOTE2 Sasuke without bijuu just loses to Naruto faster, unless kishi decided to let sasuke awaken all his rinnegan abilities at once because plot but that just draws out the battle. Really there's no way Sasuke wins VOTE2 not just because of plot but simply his rinnegan is still new and he doesn't know all it's abilities. I mean edo bagato who is far stronger than pein but weaker than alive healthy Nagato despite having his emotions suppressed (weakened further therein) negged both KCM Naruto and Bijuu mode Bee. Rinnegan is just incredibly haxed. But Sasuke's was still new.

Too much against Sasuke without bijuu to compensate otherwise he gets dropped :lmao:. On that note Naruto and Sasuke are equal now in their own ways so I guess you can chalk that up to the rinnegan seeing hiw EMS Sasuke was
weaker than BSM Naruto.
 
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