How Can People Hate Sasuke, But Not Gaara?

[To Whatever]

Undoing Infinite Tsukuyomi with his Rinnegan should be enough

He's yet to do that

Do you see the problem?

Sasuke has yet to do a lot of things.

It's why no one knows what he really feels.

Except for maybe Naruto. Because of his Negative emotion sensing

 

[Dannie]

I made a thread about this.

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Haters gonna hate.

 

[JStar King]

Itachi did mindrape his little bro tho. And didn't he murder the other children in the Uchiha Clan, who had no part of the Coup?

 

[BLAZE]

We do not know if Sasuke is going to go along with any charges the Kages may throw at him.
We have yet to see Sasuke show humility.
We have yet to see Sasuke attempt to atone or reflect on anything other than killing his brother.
We have yet to know how Sasuke intends to achieve his goals

It's because of above that people can hate Sasuke. He's saving the world, yet it feels like he's not invested in it. Like he's doing it on a whim, because he has to.

Spoiler

We've seen Gaara show humility
We've seen Gaara atone for what he's done in the past
We've seen Gaara reflect on his past mistakes.
We've seen Gaara show exponential growth from his past evil ways.

Don't know but sasuke won't care about that
Humility:maybe
Yes Gaara completely forgot he can do anything on his own and has jumped to leave it all to naruto bandwagon and i agree on atoning part.

 

[To Whatever]

Don't know but sasuke won't care about that
Humility:maybe
Yes Gaara completely forgot he can do anything on his ownand has jumped to leave it all to naruto bandwagon and i agree on atoning part.

@Bold:
That's why people hate him. He does things and doesn't reflect on whether it was right or wrong, as long as it progresses his motives and plan. As of now, he'd let Sakura and Kakashi die if it wasn't for Naruto.

The ends justifies the means to that guy.

And he did kill a guy for using the exact same logic (Danzo)


@Bold Red
Re-read the Edo Tensei/War arc, Please

 

[AllHailKurama]

First of all, It doesint affect every single uchiha, its passed down to certain ones, just like the indra and ashura spirts,

False, it is not passed down to certain ones. The Uchiha's, excepting a few, all wanted power. They believed themselves superior to those around them, simply on virtue of carrying the name "Uchiha".

"He willingly accepted the cure mark???", that's not what happened at all, he fought against orchimaru and when he got tired, Orchimaru surprised him and bit him, so no he did not "Willingly accept it"

Yes, Orochimaru bit him. But Sasuke had a choice, and in the end, he chose to use the power of the curse mark. He willingly accepted it. That is on him.

and if you wanna disregard the whole "Indra" thing, then be my guest, that's just like me saying, "Oh Naruto never had the nine tailed fox, people just didn't like him for no reason" or when Naruto Attacked Sakura and yamato, i guess he did that on his own will as-well

The first bolded part is completely irrelevant and makes zero sense in the context of this debate. The second bolded part is not the same, because Naruto didn't do that on his own, that was Kurama who did that. Indra did not force Sasuke to do anything, Indra did not make choices for Sasuke. Sasuke did everything on his own volition.

@bolded it did

Did not.

So what do u want sasuke to get TNJ'd by the guy by whom gaara was TNJ'd who is completely OK with itachi mindraping sasuke to keep him on konaha's side.

Nope. I want him to be accountable for his actions.

U want a person who was mentally tortoured and manipulated his entire life to go Happy with fairy tale lifestyle.

Nice exaggeration. And no, like is said in the line above, some accountability and humility would be nice.

 

[BLAZE]

@Bold:
That's why people hate him. He does things and doesn't reflect on whether it was right or wrong, as long as it progresses his motives and plan. As of now, he'd let Sakura and Kakashi die if it wasn't for Naruto.

The ends justifies the means to that guy.

And he did kill a guy for doing the exact same logic (Danzo)


@Bold Red
Re-read the Edo Tensei/War arc, Please

u r acting like sasuke was nvr blunt and arrogant.
about gaara he was one of my fav. and i have read the whole $th shinobi world war arc.

 

[King Of Pop]

Sasuke was born a normal shinobi

Gaara was born a weapon

Sasuke was seen as a prodigy

Gaara was seen a a monster

Sasuke did not live in fear of being killed

Gaara had multiple attempts at his life

Sasuke knew love

Gaara did not

Sasuke turned evil

Gaara saw the errors of his ways

Sasuke only has his interest in mind

Gaara does not

yes but sasukes whole family and clan were killed. his family were taken from him in one night.

wtf? so because sasuke was seen as a prodigy, then that means all his sorrows are gone???

yes sasuke knew love but it was swifly taken from him. that can actually have a worse effect.

gaara was evil, whether or not he saw the errors of his ways. he killed people, he nearly killed lee if not for gai

he is currently helping to save not just the wprld but also konoha, same konoha who killed his clan using his brother. yh so much for having only his interest at heart.

you just pretty much made a bunch of excuses for gaara to try and justify him. biased as hell. what you say for one you say for the other. dont slate sasuke and then try and justify gaara.

 

[King Of Pop]

Gaara was 12, didn't kill nearly as many people as Sasuke, and didn't kill anyone important. Plus, when Gaara turned good, he became iconic. Sasuke is still thinking of only himself and Naruto (only because he has to)

wtf?? he is not thinking of only himself. he is fighting for humanity as well as konoha. he doesnt want itachis and his clan sacrifice to be in vain. reread the manga

 

[To Whatever]

u r acting like sasuke was nvr blunt and arrogant.
about gaara he was one of my fav. and i have read the whole $th shinobi world war arc.

Arrogance and him being blunt isn't what i'm trying to talk about.

"He does things and doesn't reflect on whether it was right or wrong, as long as it progresses his motives and plan."


Sasuke is indifferent to anyone that doesn't benefit him. I.E Sakura and Kakashi

yes but sasukes whole family and clan were killed. his family were taken from him in one night.

wtf? so because sasuke was seen as a prodigy, then that means all his sorrows are gone???

yes sasuke knew love but it was swifly taken from him. that can actually have a worse effect.

gaara was evil, whether or not he saw the errors of his ways. he killed people, he nearly killed lee if not for gai

he is currently helping to save not just the wprld but also konoha, same konoha who killed his clan using his brother. yh so much for having only his interest at heart.

you just pretty much made a bunch of excuses for gaara to try and justify him. biased as hell

You've missed the point of that post.

Sasuke still hasn't shown humility among other things that would convey that he's changed

 

[BLAZE]

Did no


Nope. I want him to be accountable for his actions.



Nice exaggeration. And no, like is said in the line above, some accountability and humility would be nice.

yes it did

Ok
Mentally tortoured and manipulated[for entire life].i didn't exaggerate anything

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I think you mean he couldn't care less

I used a different phrasing but the point remains the same.Sasuke could care less or could'nt care less about what people think of him.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

False, it is not passed down to certain ones. The Uchiha's, excepting a few, all wanted power. They believed themselves superior to those around them, simply on virtue of carrying the name "Uchiha".



Yes, Orochimaru bit him. But Sasuke had a choice, and in the end, he chose to use the power of the curse mark. He willingly accepted it. That is on him.




The first bolded part is completely irrelevant and makes zero sense in the context of this debate. The second bolded part is not the same, because Naruto didn't do that on his own, that was Kurama who did that. Indra did not force Sasuke to do anything, Indra did not make choices for Sasuke. Sasuke did everything on his own volition.



Did not.



Nope. I want him to be accountable for his actions.



Nice exaggeration. And no, like is said in the line above, some accountability and humility would be nice.

Well Sasuke didint feel superior to people around him at the time, its basically like a curse, He lost someone important to him, and it makes all their love for other things turn into hate (As tobirama stated), also i guess you don't know what reincarnation means, so let me clarify this for you, when you're reincarnated, the new body, follow's a similar route, the same way the original went, so by turn of events sasuke was turning out just like indra, popular amongst everyone, natural talented, and then in the end turning against everyone, so in a way, Sasuke was having a "Internal struggle" so to speak

 

[To Whatever]

yes it did

Ok
Mentally tortoured and manipulated[for entire life].i didn't exaggerate anything

Sasuke's life isn't over.

And he's 16.

 

[AllHailKurama]

yes it did

Ok
Mentally tortoured and manipulated[for entire life].i didn't exaggerate anything

It didn't and he wasn't.

 

[Dannie]

So now were using humility as an excuse for Sasuke being bashed and hated? Lol

 

[King Of Pop]

Arrogance and him being blunt isn't what i'm trying to talk about.

"He does things and doesn't reflect on whether it was right or wrong, as long as it progresses his motives and plan."


Sasuke is indifferent to anyone that doesn't benefit him. I.E Sakura and Kakashi





You've missed the point of that post.

Sasuke still hasn't shown humility among other things that would convey that he's changed

he does not need to openly show humility, his actions speak louder. sasukes personality has never been that lovy dovy type. his harsh persona is his characterization. doesnt make him evil

 

[saw2097]

Well, I don't hate Sasuke but I understand why some people separate Gaara from him:

Gaara mainly killed people that attacked him first or were enemies of his village (as the Sand village was planning to attack the Hidden Leaf).

So his actions while wrong, were more along the lines of warfare (but even then that is pushing it as he did commit crimes).


Sasuke ditched his village, attacked and tried to kill someone who considered him his best friend, attacked a village that the village he came from was at peace with, killed a Hokage candidate (yes he was a amoral jerk but that doesn't change his position), stabbed and almost killed Karin who trusted and loved him, abandoned Suigetsu and Juugo two people who considered him a friend and comrade, attacked the five Kage summit on behalf of a terrorist organization who he was aiding, killed many Samurai who were just doing their job when he could have dealt with them easily without killing them, helped revive the Ten Tails by delivering a tentacle of the 8 tails, and tried to destroy a village that his brother sacrificed everything to protect.

There is a vast difference between Gaara and Sasuke, yes Gaara did horrible things as well but they pale in comparison.

 

[BLAZE]

It didn't and he wasn't.

Cough Itachi Cough
Oh didn't oro and kabuto knew about massacre.
Oh didn't obito took a gamble.
Oh iand didn't black zetsu rewrote uchiha tablet.
i think yes

 

[To Whatever]

So u want him to show humility to others.
i don't have problem with that.

Yeah, it wouldn't hurt him to actually attempt to say something that resembles an apology. I'm not saying he should beg for his life. But acting like everything you did was alright isn't okay either.

I mean he did apologize to Karin.

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