How can people even think of comparing Nagato to Hashirama?

[HENI]

Rinnegan > SM and Wood

 

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[Garfield01]

Kabuto was anything but inexperienced but I do get the argument of Nagato not having the control of himself. It's even worse when it sounds that Itachi did most of the job. Also, Itachi thinks a few steps ahead, Nagato probably wouldn't have dodged that either way.

"Itachi thinks a few steps ahead". At least Itachi got to think Lol.

Kabuto was using edo's on a mass scale, something he hasn't ever done before. How does that not make inexperienced? Totsuka blade being a weapon with some element of chakra can be perceived by the rinnegan, hence why nagato widened his eyes at the smoke screen in front of him. The exclamation marks emphasise this that nagato saw the chakra blade

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[Romy9]

"Itachi thinks a few steps ahead". At least Itachi got to think Lol.

Kabuto was using edo's on a mass scale, something he hasn't ever done before. How does that not make inexperienced? Totsuka blade being a weapon with some element of chakra can be perceived by the rinnegan, hence why nagato widened his eyes at the smoke screen in front of him. The exclamation marks emphasise this that nagato saw the chakra blade

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Doesn't really matter. An element of surprise was apparent and present in all of Itachi's enemies. Nagato would be no different. That's what "thinking a few steps ahead" means.

 

[swirlyshark]

What Is a prime nagato? And if prime nagato is what I assume then it's fanfic and will never happen so get over it Jman almost beat 6 bodies with the rinnegan they only won cause he went into the fight not knowing that secret! And Madara did have access to his rinnegan abilities in his Edo body not full but none the less still abilities

 

[Garfield01]

Doesn't really matter. An element of surprise was apparent and present in all of Itachi's enemies. Nagato would be no different. That's what "thinking a few steps ahead" means.

Actually, It does matter. If the conditions were fair Nagato would have med diffed itachi. By the power of Kishimoto nagato was rooted to the ground and embrace the blade, where in fact it there was no plot that blade would have been ineffective, and Nagato would have proceeded on to taking the three of them down.​

 

[Romy9]

Actually, It does matter. If the conditions were fair Nagato would have med diffed itachi. By the power of Kishimoto nagato was rooted to the ground and embrace the blade, where in fact it there was no plot that blade would have been ineffective, and Nagato would have proceeded on to taking the three of them down.​

Assumptions by a point of view.

 

[Demonic.]

I'm sorry but there's no way EMS madara is beating prime Nagato. lmao Lol​

Stop posting. Perfect Susano obliterates Nagato

 

[Garfield01]

lel go to sleep



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Yeah sorry about that Lol


1) According to that 1st scan they were brought virtually back to full power. Edo Hashi = Alive Hashi. There hasn't been a decrease in power.

2) "There's a reason why you brothers can't bring out your true strength... call it coincidence, call it fate, but there's a gulf between our skills now." I don't think you've understood that sentence well. It doesn't support your opinion, but rather goes against it. "there's a reason why you brothers can't bring out your true strength". Madara was referring to them not having any knowledge of the strength achievable by Uchiha + senju combination. He also does state that he's a lot stronger than both of the brothers.

3) Lol. You have to understand that in battles there are secrets, and the key to defeating your opponent is by knowing how their power works. Jiraiya managed to figure this out, but it was too late.

4) Here you can see blind Madara effortlessly neg diff hashirama with rods that appeared out of no where. You can see what a blind madara with even the smallest access to Rinnegan can do to Hashirama, unlike his edo self where he was restricted of rinnegan usage. Good thing hashirama was an edo and not alive... that would have been messy.

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[Garfield01]

Stop posting. Perfect Susano obliterates Nagato

Hey stupid. Ever heard of the expression "Preta lol diffs?"​

 

[Demonic.]

I don't see why you're bringing Sai into this. This is only between Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama. As far as Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama go, it's a stalemate due to madara's rods paralyzing edo hashirama and madara being restrained by Hashirama's wood restraints.​

Reread the chapter Lol that's your problem.

Only Madara was bound, Hashirama could still move:

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After Madara received a power boost and was revived, that's when Hashirama was immobilized:

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But as far as Edo's go, your boy lost.​

 

[Garfield01]

Reread the chapter Lol that's your problem.

Only Madara was bound, Hashirama could still move:

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After Madara received a power boost and was revived, that's when Hashirama was immobilized:

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But as far as Edo's go, your boy lost.

Sigh. How many times do I have to say this. What part of Edo madara was restricted of Rinnegan usage do you not understand?

Being revived didn't give him a power boost at all. Where you got that logic from nobody knows. Alive Madara had access to Rinnegan, and that's where he negged hashi with rods. Edo madara was nerfed of that privilege.

As far as Edo's go, Hashirama was essentially fighting EMS madara again, since he was restricted of Rinne techs.​

 

[Demonic.]

Sigh. How many times do I have to say this. What part of Edo madara was restricted of Rinnegan usage do you not understand?

Being revived didn't give him a power boost at all. Where you got that logic from nobody knows.​

Your boy Madara says it himself, you fool.

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Alive Madara had access to Rinnegan, and that's where he negged hashi with rods. Edo madara was nerfed of that privilege.

Edo Madara used Preta path here:

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And black rods here:

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And you say he fought "EMS Madara" Lol

As far as Edo's go, Hashirama was essentially fighting EMS madara again, since he was restricted of Rinne techs.

He was only restricted of Limbo. Like I said read the manga, that's your problem

 

[AlphaScythian]

TBH I dont think nagato is so out of hashirama's league.
Prime nagato should be able to CT most of Buddha and then rinnegan hax him.

 

[Demonic.]

TBH I dont think nagato is so out of hashirama's league.
Prime nagato should be able to CT most of Buddha and then rinnegan hax him.

I feel the same way about Nagato and Obito. Soul Dragon GG

 

[SS100]

its tragic, really

 

[KidGamer65]

That's what drugs'll do to you.

 

[maniaoqan]

Hashirama > Nagato

Prime Nagato is Pein and Hashirama defeats Pein without trouble.

Fanfiction Nagato on the other hand is Nagato who isn't a cripple meat bag. That version of Nagato beats Hashirama without trouble.

 

[Zzz]

Your boy Madara says it himself, you fool.

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Edo Madara used Preta path here:

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And black rods here:

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And you say he fought "EMS Madara" Lol



He was only restricted of Limbo. Like I said read the manga, that's your problem

Madara was restricted of Limbo, which is his primary jutsu. He probably means that.

Ah, as for the black rods part, they can only be activated using blood. Madara as an Edo could not actually do anything to Hashirama in terms of the rod advantage, but he stabbed Hashirama with them in order to use them when he came back to life. Hope you understand.

Still, Hashirama > Nagato anyday.

 

[LordRevan]

Madara was restricted of Limbo, which is his primary jutsu. He probably means that.

Ah, as for the black rods part, they can only be activated using blood. Madara as an Edo could not actually do anything to Hashirama in terms of the rod advantage, but he stabbed Hashirama with them in order to use them when he came back to life. Hope you understand.

Still, Hashirama > Nagato anyday.

False, the black rods are dependent on overwhelming your opponent's chakra. Madara's chakra is inferior to Hashirama. Hence why he needed to be at full power, while Hashirama barely having any power left.. for Madara to bind him. He wasn't able to overpower Hashirama's chakra.

Simply look at when Nagato tried to overpower Naruto, and Naruto said not today homie.