How can people even think of comparing Nagato to Hashirama?

[Ken Masters]

Just read a depressing thread where many members were saying so-called "Prime" Nagato defeats SM Hashirama Zzz

I mean dafuq is that shit? :devil:

- edo hashirama is confirmed weaker than alive hashirama
- edo madara is confirmed 2-3 tiers above prime nagato
- edo madara has pss+mokuton+gunbai+indra's chakra+experience+infinite chakra (perks better than prime nagato)

yet edo hashirama beat edo madara

also nagato failed against 6 tailed naruto whereas hashirama single handedly stopped fully transformed juubi with god gates

therefore outcome: Hashirama wins with low diff

with all the good members gone nb really sucks these days.

 

[Garfield01]

First and foremost:

Edo Hashirama < Edo Madara. Edo madara was restricted of rinnegan, so essentially he was fightning EMS Madara. As soon as he was revived you see how he negged hashirama's seemingly powerful restraints and proceeded on to blitz SM naruto.


Nagato > Hashirama.


Please come at me, and we shall have an insult-free debate!​

 

[Arima]

First and foremost:

Edo Hashirama < Edo Madara. Edo madara was restricted of rinnegan, so essentially he was fightning EMS Madara. As soon as he was revived you see how he negged hashirama's seemingly powerful restraints and proceeded on to blitz SM naruto.


Nagato > Hashirama.


Please come at me, and we shall have an insult-free debate!​

Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama, and still Madara almost got sealed by Sai thanks to Hashirama- where is logic??

 

[Romy9]

People don't realize how godly Hashirama is. The sad thing is that there are so many eye-fappers that they forget which lineage is more powerful overall. Lol

 

[Ken Masters]

First and foremost:

Edo Hashirama < Edo Madara. Edo madara was restricted of rinnegan, so essentially he was fightning EMS Madara. As soon as he was revived you see how he negged hashirama's seemingly powerful restraints and proceeded on to blitz SM naruto.


Nagato > Hashirama.


Please come at me, and we shall have an insult-free debate!​

i like insult free debates. but this is also an obvious debate, so gonna do a quick solo here

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alive hashi >> edo hashi

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madz himself confirms that hashi or even tobirama can't bring out there full power because of edo bodies

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nagato himself says that he'd lost to jiraya lol. hashirama is god compared to jiraya

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#mangaphax >> me or you

 

[Garfield01]

Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama, and still Madara almost got sealed by Sai thanks to Hashirama- where is logic??

I don't see why you're bringing Sai into this. This is only between Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama. As far as Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama go, it's a stalemate due to madara's rods paralyzing edo hashirama and madara being restrained by Hashirama's wood restraints. Like I said, madara was restricted of his rinnegan usage because him spamming rinnegan as an edo is the end of the shinobi world. I'm sure you know that. Kishi waited until he was revived (because then he's susceptible to damage), then allowed him to only access preta and shinra tensei once, then from that on only limbo.​

 

[Romy9]

I don't see why you're bringing Sai into this. This is only between Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama. As far as Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama go, it's a stalemate due to madara's rods paralyzing edo hashirama and madara being restrained by Hashirama's wood restraints. Like I said, madara was restricted of his rinnegan usage because him spamming rinnegan as an edo is the end of the shinobi world. I'm sure you know that. Hashirama waited until he was revived (because then he's susceptible to damage), then allowed him to only access preta and shinra tensei once, then from that on only limbo.​

Madara had the luxury of taking Hashirama's cells which gave him more power. If Hashirama had the same luxury, Madara would end up the same as he did at VoTE.

 

[IchaIchaSage]

Nagato can destroy hashirama, we are talking about nagato if he wasn't crippled or chakra exhausted.

 

[Arima]

i like insult free debates. but this is also an obvious debate, so gonna do a quick solo here

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alive hashi >> edo hashi

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madz himself confirms that hashi or even tobirama can't bring out there full power because of edo bodies

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nagato himself says that he'd lost to jiraya lol. hashirama is god compared to jiraya

and finally

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#mangaphax >> me or you

Good one!

 

[Garfield01]

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i like insult free debates. but this is also an obvious debate, so gonna do a quick solo here

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alive hashi >> edo hashi

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madz himself confirms that hashi or even tobirama can't bring out there full power because of edo bodies

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nagato himself says that he'd lost to jiraya lol. hashirama is god compared to jiraya

and finally

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#mangaphax >> me or you]

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Madara had the luxury of taking Hashirama's cells which gave him more power. If Hashirama had the same luxury, Madara would end up the same as he did at VoTE.

Well, we're not talking about that. Lol. Madara fought a battle to get his cells. I'm pretty sure that madara knew he was no match for the god of shinobi at that time, so probably his real aim was to get the cells, but first to weaken him.​

 

[Romy9]

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Well, we're not talking about that. Lol. Madara fought a battle to get his cells. I'm pretty sure that madara knew he was no match for the god of shinobi at that time, so probably his real aim was to get the cells, but first to weaken him.​

I just wanted to point out the actual overall ability of Hashirama. I don't think Nagato could stand up to EMS Madara, let alone Hashirama.

 

[Garfield01]

I just wanted to point out the actual overall ability of Hashirama. I don't think Nagato could stand up to EMS Madara, let alone Hashirama.

I'm sorry but there's no way EMS madara is beating prime Nagato. lmao Lol​

 

[Lyke]

with all the good members gone nb really sucks these days.

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[Romy9]

I'm sorry but there's no way EMS madara is beating prime Nagato. lmao Lol​

Sure he does. Itachi Bee and Naruto took him down in a matter of minutes.

 

[Garfield01]

Sure he does. Itachi Bee and Naruto took him down in a matter of minutes.

No, that was nagato under the control of an inexperienced, multitasking kabuto. Also there were several plot holes that match. Nagato was soloing two perfect jins, and itachi was just used by kishimoto as a resource get rid of nagato. Nagato could have dodged that totsuka blade, or even absorbed it.​

 

[KeyofDestiny]

I'm sorry but there's no way EMS madara is beating prime Nagato. lmao Lol​

EMS Madara wrecks "Prime" Nagato.

 

[~Kami no Itachi~]

Nagato is a piece of fodder to Itachi's eyes

 

[Romy9]

No, that was nagato under the control of an inexperienced, multitasking kabuto. Also there were several plot holes that match. Nagato was soloing two perfect jins, and itachi was just used by kishimoto as a resource get rid of nagato. Nagato could have dodged that totsuka blade, or even absorbed it.​

Kabuto was anything but inexperienced but I do get the argument of Nagato not having the control of himself. It's even worse when it sounds that Itachi did most of the job. Also, Itachi thinks a few steps ahead, Nagato probably wouldn't have dodged that either way.

 

[3MESSIAH]

so this is basically nagato vs hashirama 2? you didnt need to create another thread you know

 

[Ken Masters]

Nagato can destroy hashirama, we are talking about nagato if he wasn't crippled or chakra exhausted.

lel go to sleep

Good one!

arigatou

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