How can Hashirama beat Minato, give me a answer ?

[Thundergod123]

The problem really is that we know too little about Minato. We have a pretty good idear about Hashirama. His Wood Style was even beyond Madara's and he was able to heal himself without hand seals.
As far as we know Minato doesnt know any techniques that deal a large amount of damage at once. The Rasengan is powerful but Hashirama could just heal that quickly.
Minato's advantage lies in FTG but he cant use that for ever, it takes much chakra and Hashirama's wood can cover large areas.

I really dont think Minato could beat him. It wouldnt be that easy for Hashirama, people like to hype him up far too much but in the end he would win.

What is this ?

Minato do not lose any chakra by using his ftg tech, we don't know anything about Minato

 

[Prime Rib]

strongest shinobi title?

 

[Thundergod123]

hashirama is greatly more powerful... so the question should be... how does minato beat hashirama... if you think that someone revered that much is gona be outclassed because of minato's s/t jutsu ( which was made by hashirama's brother, so he knows of it and more than likely know it himself) then ur blindly argueing this... other than that jutsu... minato has nothing on hashirama, hashirama has better hand to hand, better jutsu, better sealing techs, and self healing...

Hashirama do not know anything about the ftg tech, yes he knows about Tobiramas space-time tech, but he can't deal with the ftg tech

 

[Thundergod123]

They seem equal to me,
Hashirama is granted by High Taijutsu skill, auto healing ability, and Mokuton (regarding fuinjutsu he may learn from his wife's clan) wich make him nearly invincible
Minato on the other hand is insanely fast so trying Taijutsu on him seems useless, and because Mokuton is slower than FTG it'll be hard capturing him, besides like you said we didn't see much of both of them to judge

Thanks dude, finally someone who understands this

 

[Thundergod123]

strongest shinobi title?

No need to ask, no one is the strongest

 

[Strict]

By creating a forest, one could say that he would just crush him. The Kunais however would be covered by tons of trees. How Minato is going to counter the pollen of the flower tree world? How Minato is going to fight a bunch of Mokuton Bunshins? How Minato is countering the Bringer of Darkness?

Hashirama is the strongest Hokage.

 

[Thundergod123]

Why can't poeple just be quiet, the reason why I did this, it's because I made this thread to let u guys knows about " don't know " anything about this 2 shinobis "

Hashirama is not stronger than Minato and Minato is not either stronger than Hashirama, so we don't know who wins ????????????? be quiet !!!!!!

Besides, we haven't seen anything about Minato's full strength and jutsus, especially his jutsu that he did not show us yet, also his tricking jutsus or powerful jutsus, like that.................. also we don't know, the same goes for Hashirama

Now get it ?

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

The 2nd developed s/t jutsu, but not FTG. Whered it say that? And they were both good with seals, as they were both married to women from the Uzumaki clan. We don't know every jutsu from each of them, so it's impossible to say who would win. In fact, it doesn't really matter who would win, because they're not prevalent in the story.

Lastly, I don't think it's right for someone who's name is thundergod to debate about Minato vs. Hashi.

 

[Loome]

Dear whoever said that,

Hashirama cant be beaten by Minato.

Sincerely,
A Minato fangirl.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

minato can dodge anything, sense the location of hashiramas mokuton clones, summon fukasaku and shima to help him, food cart destroyer technique, space time barrier to relocate the forests, death god to remove hashiramas soul

High Taijutsu skill

never once demonstrated anywhere in the manga

auto healing ability

never once demonstrated anywhere in the manga

The 1st attacks have to wide of range and are to big for ftg to save minato.

lol minato is pretty fast without it and he can place a marking anywhere. shima can summon minato if he gets in trouble

If Hashirama insta-spawns a forest, all of Minato's kunai are going to get displaced.

you do realise he doesnt need kunais for FTG right?

Hashirama defeated Madara+Kurama. could Minato defeat Madara+Kurama? i doubt it.

hashirama did not defeat kurama. he supressed and had his wife seal him. kimimaro controlled juugo, but it hardly made him physically superior since juugo gave kiimmaro power. shisui can control anything.
minato not defeating madara is irrelevant as they are two compeltely different shinobis with different fighitng styles. minato is movement and kinetic and space time based. madara is stationary and reliant on his MS/camping in susano.

Madara said he was the strongest shinobi

no he ddint. he said others considered him strongest shinobi. learn to read

minato has nothing on hashirama, hashirama has better hand to hand, better jutsu, better sealing techs, and self healing...

minato has vastly VASTLY superior close combat. how do you heal from a kunai through the brain? better jutsu? whats better than goddamn space barrier and goddamn death god? hashirama has shown precisely ZERO sealing techs. and precisely ZERO self healing

Hashirama beat the 9tails that killed Minato

hinata could oneshot neji with a hand sign due to curse seal. doesnt make her stronger. shisui can oneshot madara with KA. doesnt mean hes stronger overall. and minato chose to die. kushian said there wasnt any need for him to die

he was able to heal himself without hand seals.

thing about minato is we didnt hear about him, we watched him fight and prove his legend. hashirama is still just all hearing about how amazing he was. and not actually seeing it for ourselves

The Rasengan is powerful but Hashirama could just heal that quickly.

what hashirama feats suggest he can heal instantly from rasengan to the neck, decapitating him?

it takes much chakra and Hashirama's wood can cover large areas.

teleporting huge objects liek kurama takes up chakra. just teleporting himself is spammable. hashirama hasnt shown to be able to spam wood

Minato cannot tell the difference between Mokuton Kage Bunshins and the real Hashirama

hashirama cannot tell the difference between kage bunshins and the real thing if itachi couldnt

 

[Thundergod123]

By creating a forest, one could say that he would just crush him. The Kunais however would be covered by tons of trees. How Minato is going to counter the pollen of the flower tree world? How Minato is going to fight a bunch of Mokuton Bunshins? How Minato is countering the Bringer of Darkness?

Hashirama is the strongest Hokage.

WTF ?????

How can u know about Minato, he did not show any of his jutsus, Minato have more than the ftg tech, actually Minato can still teleport to his kunais even is covered by Mokuton, cause of its seal, Hashirama can't figured this out, besides Minato's battle tactics and intelligence will find a good method to counter Hashirama

Also no one wins or stronger, the answer is " we don't know " !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[orochimaru]

By feats, Minato>Hashirama, by hype Hashirama>Minato. It's as simple as that

sums it all up!

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

How Minato is going to counter the pollen of the flower tree world?

teleport away as soon as he feels the initial effects or simply use ma and pa's sage mode to sense it coming toward them

How Minato is going to fight a bunch of Mokuton Bunshins? How Minato is countering the Bringer of Darkness?

show me hashirama using multiple clones in a normal fight. show me darkness genjutsu used in a non barrier environment. minatos shunshin is too fast for sharingan let alone normal genjutsus like darkness

 

[SoupAddicttt]

Hashirama wins, pretty much what Noddy said. I would go deeper into this but i saw your reactions to some posts so not gonna do it..

 

[Henrik]

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[OnPoint]

you do realise he doesnt need kunais for FTG right?

Don't act as if the environment will not be altered drastically by Hashirama's use of Mokuton. Any seals placed on the ground will either be deleted or moved into undesirable positions. If his kunais are displaced, he loses the ability to use Hiraishin V2.

 

[Henrik]

@USSJ Future Trunks:

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Notice that Madara was the only one too see Hahsirama's mokuton clones due to his eyes

 

[Thundergod123]

minato can dodge anything, sense the location of hashiramas mokuton clones, summon fukasaku and shima to help him, food cart destroyer technique, space time barrier to relocate the forests, death god to remove hashiramas soul

never once demonstrated anywhere in the manga

never once demonstrated anywhere in the manga

lol minato is pretty fast without it and he can place a marking anywhere. shima can summon minato if he gets in trouble

you do realise he doesnt need kunais for FTG right?


hashirama did not defeat kurama. he supressed and had his wife seal him. kimimaro controlled juugo, but it hardly made him physically superior since juugo gave kiimmaro power. shisui can control anything.
minato not defeating madara is irrelevant as they are two compeltely different shinobis with different fighitng styles. minato is movement and kinetic and space time based. madara is stationary and reliant on his MS/camping in susano.

no he ddint. he said others considered him strongest shinobi. learn to read

minato has vastly VASTLY superior close combat. how do you heal from a kunai through the brain? better jutsu? whats better than goddamn space barrier and goddamn death god? hashirama has shown precisely ZERO sealing techs. and precisely ZERO self healing

hinata could oneshot neji with a hand sign due to curse seal. doesnt make her stronger. shisui can oneshot madara with KA. doesnt mean hes stronger overall. and minato chose to die. kushian said there wasnt any need for him to die

thing about minato is we didnt hear about him, we watched him fight and prove his legend. hashirama is still just all hearing about how amazing he was. and not actually seeing it for ourselves

what hashirama feats suggest he can heal instantly from rasengan to the neck, decapitating him?

teleporting huge objects liek kurama takes up chakra. just teleporting himself is spammable. hashirama hasnt shown to be able to spam wood

hashirama cannot tell the difference between kage bunshins and the real thing if itachi couldnt

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I agree with this " minato has vastly VASTLY superior close combat. how do you heal from a kunai through the brain? better jutsu? whats better than goddamn space barrier and goddamn death god? hashirama has shown precisely ZERO sealing techs. and precisely ZERO self healing"

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thing about minato is we didnt hear about him, we watched him fight and prove his legend. hashirama is still just all hearing about how amazing he was. and not actually seeing it for ourselves


Thank you, someone who understands this thread

 

[NARUTOS Rinnegan]

Since Madara is the stongest Ninja right now and he said Hashi is the only person who can put up a fight to him by himself, then yeah Hashi is stronger then Minato. Even I hate to admit it

 

[antenna]

hashirama was stronger than his brother who also possessed space time ninjutsu similar to minatos
hashirama could take on the kyuubi and madara

hashi >>> minato