How are people still in denial?

[RikudouMadara]

Zetsu inside of Obito... That's why Obito's body turned black. Madara made Zetsu take over Obito with his will and used Rinne Tensei. I don't necessarily mean he didn't break himself out. I mean in the same sense of Juubito. He was clearly defeated, and if Obito wasn't on the battlefield, he would have been finished.

Zetsu is Madara....also we don't know if he would be finished as you say. That scenario never came in to play, but I respect your opinion. I believe Madara could have broken out at any time due to his attitude during Naruto and Hashiramas combination attack. That's just me though.....

 

[Pizcobaby]

Yeap madara loooooost hard. Now that doesn't mean he didn't have something up his sleeve..but he got beat. Plain as day. Just because he got beat doesn't mean he lost though O_O... Maybe he knew he would get beat..

 

[MythicDonut]

Hashirama is weakened now. o-o

its like this:

A vs B = B wins

A vs B second match, with B still having that same damage and health , while A gets restored to the full.

Hashirama is still an Edo though, he shouldn't waver that much in terms of stamina and chakra only Madara should who can now be killed. Madara's chance of winning is if he can successfully use the Chakra rods he put in Hashirama's back to control him or become the Juubi's host.

 

[Multiply]

Zetsu is Madara....also we don't know if he would be finished as you say. That scenario never came in to play, but I respect your opinion. I believe Madara could have broken out at any time due to his attitude during Naruto and Hashiramas combination attack. That's just me though.....

Zetsu is Madara? LOL... Black zetsu is merely Madara's will put inside of a White Zetsu. That's why the white Zetsu on Obito turned black. It was Madara's will pouring in.

His attitude wasn't because he could break out anytime. If it were merely Hashirama and Madara on the field, and they were alone. Hashirama would have taken the victory. The only reason Madara was still in the figth was because he had Obito as his backup plan; his trump card.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hashirama is still an Edo though, he shouldn't waver that much in terms of stamina and chakra only Madara should who can now be killed. Madara's chance of winning is if he can successfully use the Chakra rods he put in Hashirama's back to control him or become the Juubi's host.

Sadly, Kishimoto is showing something else. However, Madara has a plan..

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Madara was scared stiff of Genma's presence, so it didn't count. But on a serious note, we're not in a position to dictate that Hashirama was not at full power. He haven't seen enough panels, but yes, Madara did get cornered, not owned. Leave the 'owned' part for when Madara is finally killed/sealed.

 

[Shinobi2012]

He couldn't break out of it himself. Which is why he took over Obito's body...

He didn't take over obito's body.
Rinne tensei revives you it doesn't give you the casters body.
Madara broke out.END OF THREAD.

 

[Multiply]

He didn't take over obito's body.
Rinne tensei revives you it doesn't give you the casters body.
Madara broke out.END OF THREAD.

Nigga, he took over the Zetsu that resided inside of Obito's body. He forced Obito to use rinne tensei...

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[cptenn94]

I slightly disagree. Edo hashi did not actually beat edo (beyond prime) madara. Madara was being restrained, but was not sealed, or incapable of breaking out.

All that said i still think

Edo hashi>= prime edo madara>=madara at vote fight(with kyuubi)

 

[FreakensteinAG]

He didn't take over obito's body.
Rinne tensei revives you it doesn't give you the casters body.
Madara broke out.END OF THREAD.

Somebody read the manga too fast.

 

[Multiply]

I slightly disagree. Edo hashi did not actually beat edo (beyond prime) madara. Madara was being restrained, but was not sealed, or incapable of breaking out.

All that said i still think

Edo hashi>= prime edo madara>=madara at vote fight(with kyuubi)

So because hashi(presumably) couldn't seal him, it's a draw? Madara couldn't even move and it's not like he would ever be able to break out. That means he would be stuck there for all eternity until the pillars broke, which is much worse than death. Similar to Atlas begging to be sent to Tartarus.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Zetsu is Madara? LOL... Black zetsu is merely Madara's will put inside of a White Zetsu. That's why the white Zetsu on Obito turned black. It was Madara's will pouring in.

His attitude wasn't because he could break out anytime. If it were merely Hashirama and Madara on the field, and they were alone. Hashirama would have taken the victory. The only reason Madara was still in the figth was because he had Obito as his backup plan; his trump card.

Well....let me ask you this. Did Madara create Zetsu from within him, by utilizing his ability to? If Madara and Hashirama were alone....how would Hashirama defeat him? I thought Hashirama was exhausted waiting for someone else to seal him? Well...exhausted and probably putting everything he had to to keeping the gates up. Either way how would he defeat him?

That your opinion on why Madara reacted that way I see it as he was just biding his time to achieve his ultimate goal. That, of course is my opinion.

 

[TrollingSage]

Well....let me ask you this. Did Madara create Zetsu from within him, by utilizing his ability to? If Madara and Hashirama were alone....how would Hashirama defeat him? I thought Hashirama was exhausted waiting for someone else to seal him? Well...exhausted and probably putting everything he had to to keeping the gates up. Either way how would he defeat him?

That your opinion on why Madara reacted that way I see it as he was just biding his time to achieve his ultimate goal. That, of course is my opinion.

Madara's plan to break out still relied on Obito

 

[Multiply]

Well....let me ask you this. Did Madara create Zetsu from within him, by utilizing his ability to? If Madara and Hashirama were alone....how would Hashirama defeat him? I thought Hashirama was exhausted waiting for someone else to seal him? Well...exhausted and probably putting everything he had to to keeping the gates up. Either way how would he defeat him?

That your opinion on why Madara reacted that way I see it as he was just biding his time to achieve his ultimate goal. That, of course is my opinion.

No, he created Zetsu by cultivating Hashirama's DNA. To which he used In'youton, and implanted Zetsu with his will. That is what turned him black. If it were just them, Madara would be stuck sitting there. Not even to mention Hashirama's chakra would slowly pour back in. In the meantime Madara would still be stuck doing squats until Hashirama decided to let him up for round 2.


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[RikudouMadara]

No, he created Zetsu by cultivating Hashirama's DNA. To which he used In'youton, and implanted Zetsu with his will. That is what turned him black. If it were just them, Madara would be stuck sitting there. Not even to mention Hashirama's chakra would slowly pour back in. In the meantime Madara would still be stuck doing squats until Hashirama decided to let him up for round 2.


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Hmm....whatever the method Zetsu was created by Madaras ability to perform whatever the formula is he chose, correct? Essentially each Zetsu is a part of Madara..... That scenario you put is only what you believe to have happened. Just saying...

 

[Bronze]

Quite pathetic the OP.

First of all, Madara was not fighting serious at all, and anyone with C and above reading skills can see that. It can be proven when Madara says he will make his counter attack. Wood dragon that apparently Hashirama's fanboy's argument that it defeated Madara, well unfortunately it didn't. Even with the FRS, it wasn't enough to best out Madara. Hashirama even had black rod and was damaged worse than Madara as proven he was getting beaten until Naruto came to his aid.

Then we see after Madara getting revived with Rinne Tensie, he completely destroys the torii gates with brute force even though he was immobilized. That should tell you he is stronger.

Hashirama > EMS Madara.

Edo Madara > Hashirama/edo Hashirama.

Rinne Tensie Madara >> Hashirama/edo Hashirama. Deal with it.

 

[Multiply]

Quite pathetic the OP.

First of all, Madara was not fighting serious at all, and anyone with C and above reading skills can see that. It can be proven when Madara says he will make his counter attack. Wood dragon that apparently Hashirama's fanboy's argument that it defeated Madara, well unfortunately it didn't. Even with the FRS, it wasn't enough to best out Madara. Hashirama even had black rod and was damaged worse than Madara as proven he was getting beaten until Naruto came to his aid.

Then we see after Madara getting revived with Rinne Tensie, he completely destroys the torii gates with brute force even though he was immobilized. That should tell you he is stronger.

Hashirama > EMS Madara.

Edo Madara > Hashirama/edo Hashirama.

Rinne Tensie Madara >> Hashirama/edo Hashirama. Deal with it.

Lol these niggas XD


@Bold, so then you'll agree, that if it was simply Hashirama and Madara on the battlefield, Hashirama would havee just busted Madara's ass. Considering the counterattack he says is Obito. Which means Edo Hashirama > Edo Madara.

I love how you say the wood dragon didn't defeat him, when it clearly did. He was stuck in between both of them and couldn't move. If he was truly stronger, he could have simply broken out, and yet, Hashirama negated preta path's absorbing abilities and held him them. Naruto's rasenshuriken was merely there to push him out of options, which he clearly was. Which is why Hashirama dropped the gates on him.

Then you bring up the fact that Hashirama had several black chakra rods in him... Suicide my friend. Those black rods are from Madara, which means Madara tried to control him, but simply couldn't during their fight. You give Hashirama yet another feat of resisting his control and beating his ass at the same time. Thanks bro

Hashirama > EMS Madara

Edo Hashirama(Not full power) > Edo Madara(Rinnegan/Beyond VoTE prime)

Rinne Tensei Madara > Edo Hashirama (This one idk really; we'll have to see some feats from him to see if he's actually stronger or not.)

 

[Bronze]

Lol these niggas XD


@Bold, so then you'll agree, that if it was simply Hashirama and Madara on the battlefield, Hashirama would havee just busted Madara's ass. Considering the counterattack he says is Obito. Which means Edo Hashirama > Edo Madara.

I love how you say the wood dragon didn't defeat him, when it clearly did. He was stuck in between both of them and couldn't move. If he was truly stronger, he could have simply broken out, and yet, Hashirama negated preta path's absorbing abilities and held him them. Naruto's rasenshuriken was merely there to push him out of options, which he clearly was. Which is why Hashirama dropped the gates on him.

Then you bring up the fact that Hashirama had several black chakra rods in him... Suicide my friend. Those black rods are from Madara, which means Madara tried to control him, but simply couldn't during their fight. You give Hashirama yet another feat of resisting his control and beating his ass at the same time. Thanks bro

Hashirama > EMS Madara

Edo Hashirama(Not full power) > Edo Madara(Rinnegan/Beyond VoTE prime)

Rinne Tensei Madara > Edo Hashirama (This one idk really; we'll have to see some feats from him to see if he's actually stronger or not.)

Not going to even bother. Most of the NB thinks Madara is stronger. Feats, hype and Kishi thinks Madara is stronger. If that is not enough for your IQ to understand, then i am afraid anything i will say is in nutshell as you will continue to repeat your ignorant posts like this one.

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[scorezor]

Edo-Hashirama < Edo-Madara , what RikudouMadara said.

And plus , Madara wasn't even trying , Hashirama was , trolololol.

 

[AlphaScythian]

So madara still had power and chakra all whats needed to take over obito and turn himself human again where in the end he just trolled every1 yet you call hashi victorious?