[Theory] Horns and Missing Eyes: Spoiler !!!

Senju Bean

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Rikudou's 2 power sources both stem from the Juubi; his inheritance from his mother and him being the Juubi Jin. Conclusively speaking, the Rinnegan comes from the Juubi's chakra and its effect on the person who has it. He either inherited from her, or directly from the Juubi as its Jin, and he most likely got it from Kaguya given that he'd need such power to oppose the Juubi.

Regarding Obito, the Sharingan is an evolved version of the Rinnegan, strictly speaking if we're talking about the evolutionary chain of Dojutsu. How is it supposed to transform in to a de-evolved version of itself, if it is already the newer Dojutsu?

But that doesn't mean his mother actually had the Rinnegan. There were no panels indicating that she had the Rinnegan, even white zetsu mentioned Madara and Hagaromo to be the only ones awaking the Rinnegan( I think that is Kishi's way of telling us the truth without having to draw an entire panel with Kayga's face since that is resevered for later).


The Sharingan is not the Rinnegan. Without having a Rinnegan in a socket, the socket would spout a bigger horn than the socket with the Rinnegan. That's why the Obito's Rinnegan side came out with a small horn. Madara's Rinnegan didn't spout a horn at all since he's the original user, and has much higher mastery of the eye.

It didn't evolve into the Sharingan. Hagaromo stripped the Rinnegan of it's Yang, genetically engineering it to be weaker. So it's more like forced devolution to me.
 
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Yes the human brain can find patterns in anything if it tries hard enough, but just because you can connect a series of dots in certain way doesn't mean you have to correct pattern.

No tablet is not the key, that's never been stated in the manga. Oro said what needed to be done to free the souls, and never mentioned anything about the tablet. And sealing souls is what I call control over death, you said life and death. Not that it matters either way for what we are discussing.

A pattern is a pattern. You still are denying it? Maybe Kishi won't have it turn out that way. But ask yourself, what are the chances that all this is just a coincidence? That it all falls into line by random chance?

So you are saying that Kishi just took them on a random stroll to the Uchiha shrine for no reason at all, and the had Oro wear the mask while staring into the tablet for no reason at all?

So kishi just thinks wearing the mask exactly where Oro found it would be a waste of time for Sasuke and company? That it would make more sense to stroll for miles and miles before wearing the mask when he could have done it at any moment? Kishi is not that random
 

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A pattern is a pattern. You still are denying it? Maybe Kishi won't have it turn out that way. But ask yourself, what are the chances that all this is just a coincidence? That it all falls into line by random chance?

So you are saying that Kishi just took them on a random stroll to the Uchiha shrine for no reason at all, and the had Oro wear the mask while staring into the tablet for no reason at all?

So kishi just thinks wearing the mask exactly where Oro found it would be a waste of time for Sasuke and company? That it would make more sense to stroll for miles and miles before wearing the mask when he could have done it at any moment? Kishi is not that random

It's not a coincidence, it's just not related to what side their rinnegan is on.

Kishi didn't take them on a random stroll. The Uchiha shrine significance is to set tone for the reader, but it had nothing to do with the scroll or ritual. After all, it's where all the secrets lie, as Oro says. Later it's shown that it's where Madara declared he was leaving the village. Kishi is setting a tone here, not giving hints on how jutsu work. Orochimaru's own words say to unlock the seal the user has to do the DRS while wearing the mask, then cut their belly. He didn't say anything about the tablet. That's a problem a lot of theory makes have is they try to make an in-universe connection to everything, but somethings are to make a more interesting manga.
 

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It's not a coincidence, it's just not related to what side their rinnegan is on.

Kishi didn't take them on a random stroll. The Uchiha shrine significance is to set tone for the reader, but it had nothing to do with the scroll or ritual. After all, it's where all the secrets lie, as Oro says. Later it's shown that it's where Madara declared he was leaving the village. Kishi is setting a tone here, not giving hints on how jutsu work. Orochimaru's own words say to unlock the seal the user has to do the DRS while wearing the mask, then cut their belly. He didn't say anything about the tablet. That's a problem a lot of theory makes have is they try to make an in-universe connection to everything, but somethings are to make a more interesting manga.

That is not logical. No one is going to buy that. To set the tone, the characters make completely illogical choices?
 

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just a correction it's not horns.. (well what the gold and silver brothers have are obviously horns, but what the juubi jinchuuriki have are not)
It's bunny ears..

In the Buddhist Śaśajâtaka (Jataka Tale 316),[3] a monkey, an otter, a jackal, and a rabbit resolved to practice charity on the day of the full Moon (Uposatha), believing a demonstration of great virtue would earn a great reward.
When an old man begged for food, the monkey gathered fruits from the trees and the otter collected fish, while the jackal wrongfully pilfered a lizard and a pot of milk-curd. The rabbit, who knew only how to gather grass, instead offered its own body, throwing itself into a fire the man had built. The rabbit, however, was not burnt. The old man revealed himself to be Śakra and, touched by the rabbit's virtue, drew the likeness of the rabbit on the Moon for all to see. It is said the lunar image is still draped in the smoke that rose when the rabbit cast itself into the fire.
A version of this story can be found in the Japanese anthology Konjaku Monogatarishū, where the rabbit's companions are a fox and a monkey.
 

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An addendum to this theory of mine.

Kabuto has no Rinnegan, heck, in SM he doesn't even have vision.

But he has horns.

Also, although weak in comparison, he does have some Sage powers, like control over life and death etc.

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Not strong proof, but indeed strong connections in this theory. I give it a go.

Let's see how far does this goes... Nice work, Beannie.
 

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Have seen a thread like this before and I just love this theory! Coincidence? I THINK NOT!! That's some big ass coincidence then. Everything just matches up perfectly.
 

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That is not logical. No one is going to buy that. To set the tone, the characters make completely illogical choices?

It's logical in the sense of it being a story moving from point A to B, but perhaps not in the universe as you understand it. Many stories in all mediums do this, but the better stories hid it well so you don't notice it without deeper analysis (or nitpicking). Doesn't matter if no one buys it, the facts are the facts, and everything else is supposition and opinion.

You say it's illogical for them to have resurrected the kages before the Uchia tablet unless the tablet was key to the resurrection. I say it's illogical for Oro to detail every piece needed to remove the DRS except the tablet, yet the tablet be the key to the whole thing. There's your suppositions, which you think is correct is pure opinion.
 
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