[Discussion] Horatio Nelson

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Just some more trivia ...

Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson, KB (29 September 1758 – 21 October 1805) was a British flag officer in the Royal Navy. He was noted for his inspirational leadership and superb grasp of strategy and unconventional tactics, which resulted in a number of decisive naval victories, particularly during the Napoleonic Wars. He was wounded several times in combat, losing one arm in the unsuccessful attempt to conquer Santa Cruz de Tenerife and the sight in one eye in Corsica. He was shot and killed during his final victory at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805.
 
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Oda I swear to ****ing God.

People have theorized Doffy lost an eye, which is why he wears shades(So people can't see an injured ¨God), and this dude also lost sight in his eye. It'd be cool if Oda really makes Doffy blind in one eye.
 

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Daniel Inouye - Daniel Ken Inouye (born September 7, 1924) is a recipient of the Medal of Honor and currently serves as the senior United States Senator from Hawaii. He has been a senator for over forty years, since 1963, a distinction that few senators have achieved. Although he lost his right arm in the war, he remained in the military until 1947, discharged with the rank of captain. Due to the loss of his arm, he abandoned his plans to become a surgeon and returned to college to study political science on the GI Bill. On May 23, 2005, Inouye was one of fourteen moderate senators to forge a compromise on the Democrats' use of the judicial filibuster, thus blocking the Republican leadership's attempt to implement the "nuclear option".
GODA!

Sarcasm. What, every dude who'd lost an arm is now an inspiration for this chapter?
 

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GODA!

Sarcasm. What, every dude who'd lost an arm is now an inspiration for this chapter?
No but there are a lot of Little nods to Napoleon around Law ... Trafalgar D Water Law (Trafalgasr - the naval battle against Napoleon in which Horatio Nelson was a hero, Waterloo - Napoleons loss, Wellington, ...)

There are a LOT of threads about this on the forums go check it out
 

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I wouldn't call matching names little nods. Same for Law's arm, except it's hardly even a little nod. You're overthinking things.
 

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I wouldn't call matching names little nods. Same for Law's arm, except it's hardly even a little nod. You're overthinking things.
How am I overthinking this, Oda made a lot of references to it and now TRAFALGAR lost his arm just like NELSON did
 

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I wouldn't call matching names little nods. Same for Law's arm, except it's hardly even a little nod. You're overthinking things.
LOL are you actually serious? Trafalgar Cape is the site of an important naval battle, which was part of the Napoleonic War. Napoleon was ultimately defeated at Waterloo, which ties into Wateru, the Japanese pronounciation of Law's middle name; the Japanese don't have the letter L in their vocabulary, hence why Luffy's name, for example, is romanized and pronounced as Rufi. The British commander at Waterloo was the Duke of Wellington; Wellington being the name of the pirate we saw Law and Baby 5 fighting in the flashback.

There is no overthinking, the references can be seen by Helen Keller.
 

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Then I'll explain. It's overthinking because Nelson's arm loss didn't happen at Trafalgar. The connection you found is "this guy who fought at Trafalgar was missing an arm" at best. If Law dies, will you draw another parallel to Nelson?
 

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Then I'll explain. It's overthinking because Nelson's arm loss didn't happen at Trafalgar. The connection you found is "this guy who fought at Trafalgar was missing an arm" at best. If Law dies, will you draw another parallel to Nelson?
Open your eyes, bud, there's no such things as coincidences. Dying is a vague and happens to everyone, losing an arm is specific and isn't common, so it's a reference.
 

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Open your eyes, bud, there's no such things as coincidences. Dying is a vague and happens to everyone, losing an arm is specific and isn't common, so it's a reference.
To each their own, I guess. Can't see this as anything other than a coincidence. And I bet Nelson wasn't the only guy who got maimed in the war.
 

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I hope the parralles end with the arm I don't want dear old Law saying "Now Doffy is defeated I can join u now Cora–san" coz as epic/whatever as death in victory wld b it wldnt sit well with me coz I like Law a lot n his assault on Doffy before it went south was exilerating n I want to see more such battling from him.

Its official law is my 2nd favorite op charecter its those historical war references, they r so awesome a concept they shld b done more in other media maybe(there is only one Oda anyways so they might not b as good).
 
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You guys misinterpreted the quote. The phrase means that average writers just take things to the point where it's overused. In other words, their writing is cliche. Unoriginal. Great writers take from their inspiration and make it their own. Hence the word steal. It's a crude way of putting it which leads to misinterpretation. All the great writers have been inspired by something.
 

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Why do you have to argue about a possible reference, guys (-__-). You don't have to be that sarcastic about it, it's good that there's the parallelism, just as how other mangaka does. Sometimes we need this kinda clarification in order to confirm that the specific moment doesn't copy other mangaka's work, which is becoming such a sensitive talk in regards to copyright, whatever.

Reference to history or real life is a bonus, and most mangas or stories in the world always use reference, especially on religions/philosophies/ideologies. Don't insult if a fan happens to found an interesting parallel between One Piece scenes/characters and reality.

OT: Nice find. A few others have noticed this too, it's good to know. Now i can tell 'them' that Oda isn't copying the outcome of Kishi's series for this one >_>


Shit man. It would be a pretty sad life if law dies now.
;_; No way, man... What about Bepo & co. then? They need a captain and love.
 
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