Hokage Naruto (using only BSM) vs SM Hashirama and EMS Madara

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Why df do people take thesage serious I remember when he admitted juubito would stomp hashirama read our vm now he saying they can destroy Naruto and Toneri bout dumb AF.
 

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I really like these kind of people. Not only they chose to wank their favorites to the end of the world, the chose to block all their sensory inputs, and ignore the inconsistency regarding other people.
-says i wank my "favorites".
-ignores all events that dont cater to their preconceived notions. :lol

Weaker Naruto tanking swords with no diff
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blocked by chakra hands.
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Naruto taking a chidori the face, and taking no damage
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was blocked, hence naruto holding his arm up.

Tell me again what explains Naruto taking a wound from a sword isn't lazy writing, when weaker versions did so without any difficulty?
the bold never happened. you can keep pretending that an "inconsistency" exists though.
And Toneri's sword isn't concentrated? The total output from Madara and Hashirama in vote made the vote, while Toneri's attack went completely inside the moon, and cut it in half. That's as big as the continent of Asia.
Take your own words and read them allowed. You'd understand why you, more than anyone, should listen to your own advice.
the juubis tenpenchii produced an explosion thats >>>>>naruto & bees super bijudama in AOE. still couldnt kill even a single kurama cloaked shinobi.

toneris sword did what a sword does. it cut the moon, but only because of its AOE. its power isnt concentrated hence it didnt hurt naruto, whom cant tank a katana. its extremely simple. there is literally no counterargument to this yet you keep spewing drivel to fulfill your agenda. :lol
 

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-The scans literally shows no signs of chakra hands in that moment, but the actual impact of the sword with Naruto's own hand, but our blind friend is once again denying it.
- says Naruto blocked chidori with his hands. You literally shat on your own argument, saying Naruto's cloak can tank chidori with no damage.

Toneri's sword was as big as the moon or smaller. Yet every inch of it could go through the moon for thousands and thousands of miles, but once again, our bright friend says it cannot do anything to Madara and Hashirama.

Very accurate points you made. :lol
 

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-The scans literally shows no signs of chakra hands in that moment, but the actual impact of the sword with Naruto's own hand, but our blind friend is once again denying it.
the scan i posted shows chakra hands :lol
narutos front isnt shown in the panel where he initially blocks the swords.
- says Naruto blocked chidori with his hands. You literally shat on your own argument, saying Naruto's cloak can tank chidori with no damage.
naruto blocked:|
if he didnt, he wouldve died as his durability doesnt even suffice to tank a katana. do you understand?

we have already seen the result when he doesnt block.
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im really beginning to question your sanity, since it seems that you legitimately believe that the above panel didnt happen. :lol
Toneri's sword was as big as the moon or smaller. Yet every inch of it could go through the moon for thousands and thousands of miles, but once again, our bright friend says it cannot do anything to Madara and Hashirama.

Very accurate points you made. :lol
@bold- of course it wouldnt. it couldnt damage naruto whom cant even tank a katana.
unless you think that a katana runs through susano or hobi/mokujin like a hot knife through butter as it did with narutos cloak, toneris sword cant destroy either of their constructs.

im not really in the mood to deal with someone in denial. you can pretend that a katana didnt pierce naruto cloak if thats your agenda. :lol
dont expect another response from me though. you should troll elsewhere.

you already took the loss after you kept restating defeated points.

your arguments are equivalent to asserting that milk is in fact, black. :lol
you blatantly ignored what the author put in front of you and you think that your arguments are in line with the manga? ridiculous.
 

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Why df do people take thesage serious I remember when he admitted juubito would stomp hashirama read our vm now he saying they can destroy Naruto and Toneri bout dumb AF.

Wtf is with your name bro? Like can you change it instead of jacking mine plz.
 

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Wait is this fool trying to say Sasuke's Katana is stronger than the Golden Wheel Rebirth Explosion? :lmao:
 

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Does anyone see any chakra arms present here?
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I sure as shit don't :lol

This clown says Naruto blocked chidori with his bare hand, which defeats his entire argument about Naruto being pierced by normal swords not being lazy writing.

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Toneri's sword could cut through the moon, which is a little more than half as dense as the "Earth" is, but no, Toneri's sword can't go through Madara's susanoo :lol

I fished the biggest L on the base just for you.
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Wait is this fool trying to say Sasuke's Katana is stronger than the Golden Wheel Rebirth Explosion? :lmao:

not surprised that an illiterate such as yourself would think that i said this :lol

you are only getting one response. ive already seen that your post quality is such that you are not even worth addressing.

if sasukes katana is stronger than toneris sword, then weighted Eis punch is stronger than tenpenchii.
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obviously this isnt the case. the obvious answer to this is that tenpenchiis power isnt concentrated, so despite having a massively bigger AOE than Eis weighted punch, it cant break susano.

its the same with toneris blade. toneris chakra sword has a massive AOE, but the power throughout the blade isnt concentrated. thats why a katana can pierce naruto while toneris blade didnt even hurt him.
 
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He has rikudou chakra, he just can't use it.

If the chakra is there it will boost his abilities no matter what form he's in. There is no "use it or not use it" when that's his default chakra now. So this is basically the Naruto who beat Toneri (who had Rikudo's chakra but did not use RSM), but stronger.
 

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Naruto can definitely beat them individually without Rikudou chakra. Turns into a neg-diff if he does have Rikudou chakra, and low-diff if he takes them together.

Otherwise, Madara and Hashirama together probably win, high difficulty.

how can he beat SM Hashirama without Rikudou chakra and RSM.Not to mention canonically BM Naruto had huge problem with one wood dragon. Senpō: Myōjinmon (those gates) can shut down Kurama in second since Juubi itself was put down.

Shinsuusenju stomps Full Kurama.
 

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If the chakra is there it will boost his abilities no matter what form he's in. There is no "use it or not use it" when that's his default chakra now. So this is basically the Naruto who beat Toneri (who had Rikudo's chakra but did not use RSM), but stronger.

In theory you are right but OP clearly don´t want Naruto to use it in this match.
 

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In theory you are right but OP clearly don´t want Naruto to use it in this match.

Then it should be "Rikudo chakra restricted". But even then, he mentioned that this is pretty much the Naruto who fought Toneri, and that Naruto had Rikudo Chakra.


In that case, Madara might lose (definitely loses if he doesn't have Kyuubi), but Hashirama doesn't lose. Since he has Full Kurama, he should be able to replicate the BD barrage that Kurama used at the Valley against Hashirama, so that combined explosion with Madara's attack would wreck both Avatars, but since Naruto's attacks are Senjutsu enhanced along with his Avatar, his Avatar is destroyed while Madara's Susanoo is destroyed and he gets killed since his Susanoo capped out at something equal to his own attack in combination with his own attack.

As for Hashirama, he still loses. Madara added Bijuu Dama to that barrage because he knew Shinsuusenju would catch them all if he hadn't done so, and Senjutsu won't increase the size of Naruto's BD, just the power. Thus SS catches them all and pounds Naruto's Avatar, which at best equals Madara's in durability. (assuming that Peak Sasuke w/o Hagoromo's power equals Madara Susanoo, assuming again that Peak Naruto's Avatar would be equal to Peak Sasuke's Avatar in that category) Then there's Myojinmon.
 

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Not sure how focus is an argument for Toneri's sword not piercing Naruto when the edge of the blade has enough power to cut into the Moon, the same edge that apparently hit Naruto.
 

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Naruto shits with hagoromo chakra get shitted on without it.

Also there is no such thing as BSM Naruto after he gained Hagoromo power
 

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Naruto tanking Toneri attack is the prime example of inconsistency in the Manda and power scaling altogether.
 

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Lmao at anyone that thinks Naruto, who has Rikudo chakra, even if he can't use RSM, and full Kurama
gets solo'd by either Hashirama or Madara.

BSM Naruto takes the cake low-diff. Hashirama and Madara would not be able to keep up with his speed,
and he would destroy them before they start pulling out stronger attacks. And even if they did, Naruto
overpowers them both and wins.
 

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Naruto wins this!!!

The only reason you would say other wise is if you didnt see The Last
 

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toneris strongest move didnt even hurt naruto with a direct hit, so either hashirama or madara destroy him due to having constructs much more durable than naruto and the DC the obliterate him.

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