Hokage Battle Royale!!

[BlackFlame44]

I don't know how many times I, or someone else, will have to explain this, but he let Tsunade hit him in order to take the Gokage by surprise with his surprise counter attack. Pretending to get sealed isn't going to work unless he lets himself get pushed into a corner.

Madara never got blitzed by Ay. He blocked Ay's attack when it was an inch away from his face, that isn't surprise or worry.

Madara would shit on Tsunade in CQC.

Bold is speculation

 

[KidGamer65]

Bold is speculation

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Wrong. Tsunade clearly states that he used the Mokuton Clone to outwit them. Madara hid in the ground and waited for them to think he sealed his clone so he can hit them with a surprise attack, yet you are saying that him letting them hit and seal the clone is speculation, even though that is the only way his plan works? Lmao, come on now.

Inb4 you reference the other part of Tsunade's comment, that only proves that the Gokage forced him into a position where he had to go with the above strategy.

 

[LuckyMan]

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Wrong. Tsunade clearly states that he used the Mokuton Clone to outwit them. Madara hid in the ground and waited for them to think he sealed his clone so he can hit them with a surprise attack, yet you are saying that him letting them hit and seal the clone is speculation, even though that is the only way his plan works? Lmao, come on now.

Inb4 you reference the other part of Tsunade's comment, that only proves that the Gokage forced him into a position where he had to go with the above strategy.

In a pure taijutsu fight and nothing else you can't seriously believe Madara would best Tsunade. I feel like you downplay Tsunade a lot and refuse to give her the credit she deserves for what ever reasons you have.

 

[KidGamer65]

In a pure taijutsu fight and nothing else you can't seriously believe Madara would best Tsunade. I feel like you downplay Tsunade a lot and refuse to give her the credit she deserves for what ever reasons you have.

I said that Madara shits on Tsunade in CQC. That's it. Never mentioned anything about Taijutsu, so go cry about me "downplaying" Tsunade elsewhere.

 

[BlackFlame44]

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Wrong. Tsunade clearly states that he used the Mokuton Clone to outwit them. Madara hid in the ground and waited for them to think he sealed his clone so he can hit them with a surprise attack, yet you are saying that him letting them hit and seal the clone is speculation, even though that is the only way his plan works? Lmao, come on now.

Inb4 you reference the other part of Tsunade's comment, that only proves that the Gokage forced him into a position where he had to go with the above strategy.

That doesn't mean he let them hit the clone

It just means when the clone was hit he'd make his move


That doesn't deny Tsunade the feat

 

[KidGamer65]

That doesn't mean he let them hit the clone

It just means when the clone was hit he'd make his move


That doesn't deny Tsunade the feat

Not if he made the clone for the purpose of tricking them, which is what he did, stated and shown, meaning he let them push him into a position where he would seal them allowing him to counter attack.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Not if he made the clone for the purpose of tricking them, which is what he did, stated and shown, meaning he let them push him into a position where he would seal them allowing him to counter attack.

So I guess Kakashi "let" Pain stab his Lightning Clone


And Naruto "let" his clones get caught in Kidomaru's web

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Hashirama has the best movement speed out of all of them, and he matched Madara in Kenjutsu. He also has Byakougo level healing without actually using any Jutsu. He wins.

 

[KidGamer65]

So I guess Kakashi "let" Pain stab his Lightning Clone

He sent that clone to study Pain's abilities, different from Madara sending his clone to literally get sealed away so he can counter attack.

And Naruto "let" his clones get caught in Kidomaru's web

Gonna need scans for this, but it'll probably fall under the first explanation anyway.

 

[Raijingan]

Hashirama can last the longest, but that assuming that he is skilled enough for it to become a battle of stamina. I don't believe he is more skilled taijutsu user than the others except Tsunade.

Enma is powerful as hell which will give ol Hiruzen an edge.

Tsunade will be taken out first, she is never getting in a hit on Tobirama and Minato with their speed.

In the end I think it will come down to speed, and Minato is the fastest of them all. Minato takes this

 

[LuckyMan]

I said that Madara shits on Tsunade in CQC. That's it. Never mentioned anything about Taijutsu, so go cry about me "downplaying" Tsunade elsewhere.

CQC is mostly taijutsu/kenjutsu so that basically what you're saying. Clone feints can count too but that won't pressure her at all. You underestimate people without a Sharingan so much it's sickening to even read sometimes.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Hashirama can last the longest, but that assuming that he is skilled enough for it to become a battle of stamina. I don't believe he is more skilled taijutsu user than the others except Tsunade.

Well considering it was said that Hashirama > Madara in Taijutsu and Madara has better feats in Taijutsu then the others, I would say he is more skilled then the lot of them.

Enma is powerful as hell which will give ol Hiruzen an edge.

Summoning Enma is restricted.

Tsunade will be taken out first, she is never getting in a hit on Tobirama and Minato with their speed.

In the end I think it will come down to speed, and Minato is the fastest of them all. Minato takes this

Hashirama has better movement speed then both Tobirama and Minato........

 

[KidGamer65]

CQC is mostly taijutsu/kenjutsu so that basically what you're saying. Clone feints can count too but that won't pressure her at all. You underestimate people without a Sharingan so much it's sickening to even read sometimes.

CQC is Taijutsu and Bukijutsu. Madara is proficient at Bukijutsu, and has the Gunbai and his scythe. Me saying that he beats her in CQC isn't anywhere near me saying that he beats her in Taijutsu. Its like saying that Madara>Tsunade with no weapons, bare hands=Madara>Tsunade with weapons. Makes no sense.

Clone feints aren't even necessary. He has superior speed, can see her next move coming due to Sharingan, combine that with superior speed and reactions, and she won't ever land a direct hit on him in an outright confrontation, she'll have to user her AoE punches, but Madara can block and reflect those via the Gunbai.

Not really. I just don't agree with your nonsensical views of a character's power, so you cry about it and label me an Uchiha/Sharingan/Sasuke fanboy, even though my arguments are always better than yours. If crying is all you can do, then go post elsewhere. Its not amusing.

 

[FemmeFatale]

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And who ever said Tsunade would be taken out first is funny, she has more durability feats than anyone of the Kage in base form.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Since sage mode isn't restricted it's between hashirama and minato.

 

[KidGamer65]

Since sage mode isn't restricted it's between hashirama and minato.

Ninjutsu is not allowed which means no shadow clones, no mokuton, no elemental jutsu, and sage modes,

OP disagrees. Not to mention Minato can't even use it effectively.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

OP disagrees. Not to mention Minato can't even use it effectively.

Ahh. Well then it's hashirama.
The bias is real though. Hiruzen gets a summon but the rest don't.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ahh. Well then it's hashirama.
The bias is real though. Hiruzen gets a summon but the rest don't.

lmao, this dude's known for his bias toward Hiruzen so I'm not even surprised.

 

[LuckyMan]

CQC is Taijutsu and Bukijutsu. Madara is proficient at Bukijutsu, and has the Gunbai and his scythe. Me saying that he beats her in CQC isn't anywhere near me saying that he beats her in Taijutsu. Its like saying that Madara>Tsunade with no weapons, bare hands=Madara>Tsunade with weapons. Makes no sense.

Clone feints aren't even necessary. He has superior speed, can see her next move coming due to Sharingan, combine that with superior speed and reactions, and she won't ever land a direct hit on him in an outright confrontation, she'll have to user her AoE punches, but Madara can block and reflect those via the Gunbai.

Not really. I just don't agree with your nonsensical views of a character's power, so you cry about it and label me an Uchiha/Sharingan/Sasuke fanboy, even though my arguments are always better than yours. If crying is all you can do, then go post elsewhere. Its not amusing.

All she needs to do is grab him and not let go, he's then done for. His punches kicks and scythe won't damage her. When she grabs him, he's dead regardless it he's wielding weapons. But I bet you believe he's some type of god that won't get touched by her.

Except you are a Sasuke and Uchiha fanboy. Now you sound like a rustled baby "my arguments are better than yours", sounds like you're ignorant and just full of yourself and have no more legs to stand on. I don't care what you think of my arguments either, call them shit, Illogical, or whatever you want but know that yours are no better. Now go put your face in your pillow and pout about it, kid.

 

[KidGamer65]

All she needs to do is grab him and not let go, he's then done for.

Yes, because the guy with superior speed, reactions and Sharingan to predict her movements will let her grab him with no resistance whatsoever. Another reason why I can't take you seriously.

His punches kicks and scythe won't damage her. When she grabs him, he's dead regardless it he's wielding weapons. But I bet you believe he's some type of god that won't get touched by her.

Tsunade isn't some super durable being, nor does she have any healing or regeneration in this scenario, so his scythe is going to cut her. When you can get me feats that allow her to tank it, then we can talk. The rest is another reason why I can't take you seriously, you can't counter so you start crying about how I think Madara is some god, or how I'm overrating the Uchiha. Pathetic and unamusing at best.

If she tries to grab him, Sharingan predicts her movements and the Gunbai cuts her, the Scythe cuts her, or he evades it.

Except you are a Sasuke and Uchiha fanboy. Now you sound like a rustled baby "my arguments are better than yours", sounds like you're ignorant and just full of yourself and have no more legs to stand on. I don't care what you think of my arguments either, call them shit, Illogical, or whatever you want but know that yours are no better. Now go put your face in your pillow and pout about it, kid.

No, I'm just pointing out how its ironic that I'm the fanboy, even though I have better arguments. The only one who is rustled here is you, since you started throwing the usual fanboy insults first, and you started crying about me "underestimating" Tsunade first. This whole second paragraph is just you trying to deflect. You are rustled. You are butthurt. You don't want to admit it so you are trying to make it seem like I am rustled, even though you are the one who has been posting off topic stuff, crying about how I'm a fanboy instead of posting legit counters, but then again, I don't expect legit counters from you anyway.

So yeah, if all you came to do is bitch, then don't reply again, cause it seems that's all you are good at, your arguments are terrible.