HK Minato vs HK Hiruzen

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Minato med diff. Too fast for the old timer, his rasengan also scales higher in raw power and damage than anything I can remember Hiruzen doing besides the reaper death seal Minato wouldn't get caught in and I simply pointing that out because its a devastating attack. Still no sheer raw power coming from it. Also if we are counting things like chakra cloak or TSM, Minato hard stomps. Bad. Hiruzen wouldn't be able to keep up with his base speed in those forms let alone FTG tags.
 
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Belfire said:
Minato med diff. Too fast for the old timer, his rasengan also scales higher in raw power and damage than anything I can remember Hiruzen doing besides the reaper death seal Minato wouldn't get caught in and I simply pointing that out because its a devastating attack. Still no sheer raw power coming from it. Also if we are counting things like chakra cloak or TSM, Minato hard stomps. Bad. Hiruzen wouldn't be able to keep up with his base speed in those forms let alone FTG tags.
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Hokage Minato has a cloak?
 
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Belfire said:
Are you comparing Hiruzen to Juubito? I'm confused.
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Hiruzen kept up with Juubito in the war arc

with him being an old man and not senju, he cannot have gained much stats from the reaper stomach, so his Hokage version is close to that speed level
 
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Fraid said:
Hiruzen kept up with Juubito in the war arc

with him being an old man and not senju, he cannot have gained much stats from the reaper stomach, so his Hokage version is close to that speed level
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You're moving the goal post here. Its either shown feats alive or shown feats post edo. You would think if he had everything he showed in the war arc he wouldn't have succumbed to Orochimaru of all people who is very clearly not on par with anyone in the realm of Juubito... So what are we doing here? Pre or post war? Pre or post edo? We gotta pick an actual starting point. I came into this as the title suggest, pre-war pre-edo. But now you're throwing me off by changing your reasoning on where you stand due to post-edo feats while wanting to go pre-edo feats Minato. I'm confused honestly.
 
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Belfire said:
You're moving the goal post here. Its either shown feats alive or shown feats post edo. You would think if he had everything he showed in the war arc he wouldn't have succumbed to Orochimaru of all people who is very clearly not on par with anyone in the realm of Juubito... So what are we doing here? Pre or post war? Pre or post edo? We gotta pick an actual starting point. I came into this as the title suggest, pre-war pre-edo. But now you're throwing me off by changing your reasoning on where you stand due to post-edo feats while wanting to go pre-edo feats Minato. I'm confused honestly.
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same Oro who comboed with the exact same Hiruzen is not on par with the Hiruzen he comboed with?

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