HIV baby Cured!!!

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Report on second child raises hope that early, aggressive treatment may be game changer for these infants

The hope that newborns can be "cured" of HIV -- the virus that causes AIDS -- with early, aggressive drug treatment was bolstered this week with the announcement that a second baby appears to be free of the virus following therapy that began just four hours after her birth.

The child, born at Miller Children's Hospital in Long Beach, Calif., is now 9 months old and is considered HIV-negative, researchers reported Wednesday at the Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Boston.

The first baby apparently cured by early drug therapy -- the so-called "Mississippi baby" -- is now more than 3 years old and also remains free of HIV infection, said Dr. Deborah Persaud, an associate professor of pediatrics in the division of infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins Children's Center in Baltimore.


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Saw on the news this morning.
 

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Awesome now If only they could have gotten Itachi...
 

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dont let the government find out about this
 

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i hate his mom/dad for giving him aids
 

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this has already happened a long time ago maybe this is a different baby but nothing new
 

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This is amazing. What a time to be alive. I hope this is taken to a level that can get rid of AIDS as well.

Awesome now If only they could have gotten Itachi...

It's a cure for HIV, not death.
 

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Scientists showing their medical jutsu, this is great news!
 

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They never had HIV to begin with.

You cannot be infected with a virus that does not exist.

"Aim... People are dying and you're suggesting it is because of something that doesn't exist?"

Fifty years ago, your immune system began failing.

What happened?

Small Pox took you, and you "died of small pox."

"Okay, but what does that have to do with any-"

We eradicated Small Pox - and not a decade later, people all over the place began dying of compromised immune systems.

Doctors rushed to find an explanation, biased in their assumption that an infectious agent was involved in the growing epidemic.

But there was a problem. No one could find a virus. No one could find a common route of infection. Naturally - the assumption began that it had to be sexually transmitted, since those activities are harder for epidemiologists to track and the cases were more prevalent among the 'sexually liberal' of the time.

But there was a problem. Not one virus has ever been found in the history of HIV research.

"Then how the hell did they-"

It was originally assumed that the virus was just too small to be effectively isolated using electron microscopes of the day. This is why those of us in our 20s and 30s are a bit confused by the change in tune regarding the effectiveness of condoms in blocking HIV. We were told the virus was small enough to pass through the mesh of latex fibers. Indeed - this would have been true if an electron microscope could not isolate the virus.

Why the change?

Because we found 'the HIV virus' through another means. By analyzing the blood of people who have compromised immune systems and attempting to isolate various proteins, lipids, etc from blood that has been effectively run through a very thorough blender, common proteins were found and used to develop an array of tests.

When you test positive for HIV - you test positive for the proteins other people with failing immune systems test positive for. Nothing more. Nothing less.

So, they developed a test, thinking that they had effectively found a way to track the epidemiology of the virus.

With those tests, they determined something like this:



An STD with an infection rate of 1:700? An HIV infected female would have to have *** with a new partner each night of the year to have a 50% chance of passing HIV on to just ONE male. That one extra male would have to land a new girl every night for a year to have a 1.5:1 chance of passing HIV on to another female in that year.

And HIV became an epidemic in the human population? What kind of massive orgies are we having in the streets all across the planet?

Oh, and condoms block HIV infection, somehow. Despite the fact that there is not one electron microscope image of HIV, anywhere.

"Aim... you're talking crazy..."

Using electron microscopes to photograph infected tissues/cells and understand the viral reproduction cycle is a crucial part of viral research. Trying to create a treatment without it is ... well ... stupid.

To give you an idea of how basic this is, when Marburg first entered the books of modern scientific literature, there were electron microscope images of the virus (one of the most primitive known to man, yet highly lethal) within the first weeks of studying it. The first thing they did was put infected tissues and fluids under an electron microscope to see what all was going on in there.

And now we're being told that a virus with, at best, a 10% chance of infecting people during **** intercourse, is somehow a rampaging epidemic.



So.

You have HIV.

What is the treatment? Immune suppressors.

A virus is killing your immune system, and you are assigned immune suppressors.

"Aim! They wouldn't intentionally kill people!"

No, they wouldn't.

What were they searching for? Proteins in failing immune systems. That is how they determine HIV infection.

If you issue someone immune suppressors, what is it going to do to your immune system? That's right - reduce the presence of your immune system. If they have determined that portions of your immune system indicate the presence of a virus... then reducing your immune system will reduce the indicators of a virus.

Which is precisely why AIDs, in the western world, has followed the more 'liberal' groups - the ones who experiment with drugs (often times combining them), eat poorly, and expose themselves to a wide range of pathogens in the process. It's enough to weaken and overwhelm any immune system, particularly if one already has a hereditary condition where the immune system will progressively fail.

"Now you're prattling about genetics, again..."

Think about it. We have all manner of hereditary diseases discovered that affect the nerves, muscle, bones, kidneys, lungs, heart, blood, etc - why not the immune system?

It would explain why HIV is extremely politically incorrect and has radically different infection rates across races and cultures.

Why didn't we know about it earlier?

Because we assumed Small Pox was the cause of their death. While I do not have the data to reference - I imagine there would be a disturbingly close match between HIV-positive test rates and smallpox re-infection rates across ethnic and cultural groups.

"Aim... I've done a little bit of reading, and the skeptics were wrong. People who refused treatment died."

So do the people who receive treatment.

The question is what is causing the progressive failure of immune systems. Generations ago - Small Pox would claim you before acute AIDs symptoms set in. Long before.

I don't believe there is a single common infectious agent. It's obviously a host of hereditary disorders (the common denominator of human-derived proteins that are claimed indicators of HIV infection are evidence of that - yes - the proteins that are supposedly HIV are very close matches to key proteins in our immune system) that compromise the immune system. Some AIDs/HIV cases could be induced by environment/lifestyle and the communication we do see is possibly due to a transfer and build-up of antibodies (which explains why some people have been HIV positive for nearly two decades and never shown signs of a compromised immune system).

"Aim..."

Just as an HIV-infected baby was 'cured:'



One was magically infected.

Which makes more sense?

A virus with almost supernatural-like abilities to evade detection by electron microscopes, incubate for years before suddenly 'flaring up,' and miraculously infect newborns with absolutely no vectors for infection...

Or that we are seeing immune-degenerative disorders as a consequence of eradicating Small Pox with a bull-headed industry trying to sell a cure?

[video=youtube;hsOlVF_7bRc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOlVF_7bRc#t=41[/video]
 

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They never had HIV to begin with.

You cannot be infected with a virus that does not exist.

"Aim... People are dying and you're suggesting it is because of something that doesn't exist?"

Fifty years ago, your immune system began failing.

What happened?

Small Pox took you, and you "died of small pox."

"Okay, but what does that have to do with any-"

We eradicated Small Pox - and not a decade later, people all over the place began dying of compromised immune systems.

Doctors rushed to find an explanation, biased in their assumption that an infectious agent was involved in the growing epidemic.

But there was a problem. No one could find a virus. No one could find a common route of infection. Naturally - the assumption began that it had to be sexually transmitted, since those activities are harder for epidemiologists to track and the cases were more prevalent among the 'sexually liberal' of the time.

But there was a problem. Not one virus has ever been found in the history of HIV research.

"Then how the hell did they-"

It was originally assumed that the virus was just too small to be effectively isolated using electron microscopes of the day. This is why those of us in our 20s and 30s are a bit confused by the change in tune regarding the effectiveness of condoms in blocking HIV. We were told the virus was small enough to pass through the mesh of latex fibers. Indeed - this would have been true if an electron microscope could not isolate the virus.

Why the change?

Because we found 'the HIV virus' through another means. By analyzing the blood of people who have compromised immune systems and attempting to isolate various proteins, lipids, etc from blood that has been effectively run through a very thorough blender, common proteins were found and used to develop an array of tests.

When you test positive for HIV - you test positive for the proteins other people with failing immune systems test positive for. Nothing more. Nothing less.

So, they developed a test, thinking that they had effectively found a way to track the epidemiology of the virus.

With those tests, they determined something like this:



An STD with an infection rate of 1:700? An HIV infected female would have to have *** with a new partner each night of the year to have a 50% chance of passing HIV on to just ONE male. That one extra male would have to land a new girl every night for a year to have a 1.5:1 chance of passing HIV on to another female in that year.

And HIV became an epidemic in the human population? What kind of massive orgies are we having in the streets all across the planet?

Oh, and condoms block HIV infection, somehow. Despite the fact that there is not one electron microscope image of HIV, anywhere.

"Aim... you're talking crazy..."

Using electron microscopes to photograph infected tissues/cells and understand the viral reproduction cycle is a crucial part of viral research. Trying to create a treatment without it is ... well ... stupid.

To give you an idea of how basic this is, when Marburg first entered the books of modern scientific literature, there were electron microscope images of the virus (one of the most primitive known to man, yet highly lethal) within the first weeks of studying it. The first thing they did was put infected tissues and fluids under an electron microscope to see what all was going on in there.

And now we're being told that a virus with, at best, a 10% chance of infecting people during **** intercourse, is somehow a rampaging epidemic.



So.

You have HIV.

What is the treatment? Immune suppressors.

A virus is killing your immune system, and you are assigned immune suppressors.

"Aim! They wouldn't intentionally kill people!"

No, they wouldn't.

What were they searching for? Proteins in failing immune systems. That is how they determine HIV infection.

If you issue someone immune suppressors, what is it going to do to your immune system? That's right - reduce the presence of your immune system. If they have determined that portions of your immune system indicate the presence of a virus... then reducing your immune system will reduce the indicators of a virus.

Which is precisely why AIDs, in the western world, has followed the more 'liberal' groups - the ones who experiment with drugs (often times combining them), eat poorly, and expose themselves to a wide range of pathogens in the process. It's enough to weaken and overwhelm any immune system, particularly if one already has a hereditary condition where the immune system will progressively fail.

"Now you're prattling about genetics, again..."

Think about it. We have all manner of hereditary diseases discovered that affect the nerves, muscle, bones, kidneys, lungs, heart, blood, etc - why not the immune system?

It would explain why HIV is extremely politically incorrect and has radically different infection rates across races and cultures.

Why didn't we know about it earlier?

Because we assumed Small Pox was the cause of their death. While I do not have the data to reference - I imagine there would be a disturbingly close match between HIV-positive test rates and smallpox re-infection rates across ethnic and cultural groups.

"Aim... I've done a little bit of reading, and the skeptics were wrong. People who refused treatment died."

So do the people who receive treatment.

The question is what is causing the progressive failure of immune systems. Generations ago - Small Pox would claim you before acute AIDs symptoms set in. Long before.

I don't believe there is a single common infectious agent. It's obviously a host of hereditary disorders (the common denominator of human-derived proteins that are claimed indicators of HIV infection are evidence of that - yes - the proteins that are supposedly HIV are very close matches to key proteins in our immune system) that compromise the immune system. Some AIDs/HIV cases could be induced by environment/lifestyle and the communication we do see is possibly due to a transfer and build-up of antibodies (which explains why some people have been HIV positive for nearly two decades and never shown signs of a compromised immune system).

"Aim..."

Just as an HIV-infected baby was 'cured:'



One was magically infected.

Which makes more sense?

A virus with almost supernatural-like abilities to evade detection by electron microscopes, incubate for years before suddenly 'flaring up,' and miraculously infect newborns with absolutely no vectors for infection...

Or that we are seeing immune-degenerative disorders as a consequence of eradicating Small Pox with a bull-headed industry trying to sell a cure?

[video=youtube;hsOlVF_7bRc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOlVF_7bRc#t=41[/video]
So your saying there's a chance?
 

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So your saying there's a chance?

I'm saying that the 'standard' used for diagnosis of HIV infection does not and cannot indicate the presence of a viral pathogen that impairs, disables, or otherwise harms immune response.

Throw chicken bones in a circle with some scribblings around it that indicate various ailments. Then assign various dosages of poisons as treatments. When the person dies of any cause, claim your diagnosis to have been correct and continue tossing chicken bones in a circle while chanting.

Are there problems with the people who test positive for HIV? Quite possibly. Is it some kind of super-retro-viral infection that spreads insidiously from person to person? Not only is it implausible for a virus to perform in the manner that HIV allegedly does, it is exceedingly improbable given the scope of factors that have not been resolved by HIV research that provide both plausible and probable explanations.

You can't jump to insane and ridiculous conclusions without first evaluating and ruling out the mundane and routine. After you've exhausted the routine and mundane - you can move on to rampant speculation and begin evaluating it for fitting the description.
 

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^ The primary diagnostic studies for HIV are called ELISA (Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay) and Western Blot.

With regards to your comment on why HIV patients are given immunosuppressants, you're probably referring to the treatment or introduction of SHORT TERM Prednisone therapy for patients who have low blood platelets (thrombocytopenia). Prednisone is a steroid, and is noted to increase the blood platelet count of patients with HIV. Since it is a steroid, it is only used for ACUTE, SHORT TERM periods. Prolonged exposure to any steroids can lead to immunosuppression, something that is not ideal to an already immunocompromised HIV patient.

Also, anabolic steroids are also used to aid in muscle and fat wasting, something common in patients with AIDS.

If you are not referring to Prednisone, what is the name of the drug you are referring to?


I'm glad to hear this news, OP. Hopefully further studies would lead to better results.
 
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