[Discussion] hisoka vs neferpitou

[Uchiha Samater]

Hisoka and Chrollo are very hard cards to read [no pun intended]

if you are caught up with the manga, you would know that anything and everything can occur in a short amount of time

 

[chopstickchakra]

Just because you want to fight someone stronger doesnt mean you can win. It just means you love to fight. What Gon did was out of this world to obtain power great enough to beat Pitou. And Gon is a freak of nature as it was. (With that power boost he reached the levels of Netero and the king because of what Pitou spoke)

You state that Moral and the others struggled to beat Youpi well Youpi never really even broke a sweat, He even said "These guys dont even match 10 percent of my power". And arguably Pitou is the strongest royal guard. So their levels of power are other worldly.

Sure Hisoka has great combat abilities, but Pitou's abilities are far more powerful and rarer. Shes a specialist. The rarest kind of Nen user.
Just look at what Kurapika did to the Spiders just because he was a specialist. He nearly wiped them out and managed to immobilize the leader.

Netero would demolish Hisoka dont even bring him into the convo like. Netero and the king are by far the strongest characters in the HxH to date. (Excluding Gon at age 30 or whatever). Thats why they died.

Pitou beats Hisoka. It would probably be an interesting fight but nothing more or less than that outcome.

@Bold her powers are healing based and in case she dies how is that more powerful or versatile than Bungee gum?

"Just because you want to fight someone stronger doesnt mean you can win." Hisoka isn't an idiot he lives for the next battle, he's seen Chrollo and Netero, he wouldn't try to fight them without being close.

"Just look at what Kurapika did to the Spiders just because he was a specialist" Kurapika did what he did to the Spiders because he's smart, Pitou was operating on animal instincts to protect. Kurapika only killed one Spider and he was the most straight foward/hot head of the group, I like Kurapika but he couldn't beat all the Spiders.

"You state that Moral and the others struggled to beat Youpi" Actually I never did. I said Knuckle and morel survived fighting a royal guard so Hisoka, who is stronger than them, should far well as well. As for "And arguably Pitou is the strongest royal guard" that's your opinion based on the fact Gon fought her. This isn't Bleach or OP the main character doesn't always fight the strongest. As we saw in the ants nature each new birth was stronger and more advanced. Youpi doesn't even make sense he's so strong. His body can morph into ANY shape he needs, and his base shape is the devil, where did those ants get the devil to eat?

"Netero would demolish Hisoka dont even bring him into the convo like" Again, never even said that. I said Chrollo=Zeno=Netero=Mereum. Hisoka plans to fight 2 of those mentioned who are all stronger than the royal guards. As I said Hisoka would know what level of power he would need to have to fight those two. Which means he's confident he is there, which if he is would put him above all the royal guards. If he isn't he's just shy which means he's still above or = to a royal guard.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

@Bold her powers are healing based and in case she dies how is that more powerful or versatile than Bungee gum?

"Just because you want to fight someone stronger doesnt mean you can win." Hisoka isn't an idiot he lives for the next battle, he's seen Chrollo and Netero, he wouldn't try to fight them without being close.

"Just look at what Kurapika did to the Spiders just because he was a specialist" Kurapika did what he did to the Spiders because he's smart, Pitou was operating on animal instincts to protect. Kurapika only killed one Spider and he was the most straight foward/hot head of the group, I like Kurapika but he couldn't beat all the Spiders.

"You state that Moral and the others struggled to beat Youpi" Actually I never did. I said Knuckle and morel survived fighting a royal guard so Hisoka, who is stronger than them, should far well as well. As for "And arguably Pitou is the strongest royal guard" that's your opinion based on the fact Gon fought her. This isn't Bleach or OP the main character doesn't always fight the strongest. As we saw in the ants nature each new birth was stronger and more advanced. Youpi doesn't even make sense he's so strong. His body can morph into ANY shape he needs, and his base shape is the devil, where did those ants get the devil to eat?

"Netero would demolish Hisoka dont even bring him into the convo like" Again, never even said that. I said Chrollo=Zeno=Netero=Mereum. Hisoka plans to fight 2 of those mentioned who are all stronger than the royal guards. As I said Hisoka would know what level of power he would need to have to fight those two. Which means he's confident he is there, which if he is would put him above all the royal guards. If he isn't he's just shy which means he's still above or = to a royal guard.

Your argument became irrelevant after you said @Bold​

 

[chopstickchakra]

Your argument became irrelevant after you said @Bold​

Rather than simply denouncing my claim why don't you try to counter it. How is Dr. Blythe any more powerful than bungee gum as a fighting power? How about puppeteering, a move showed against non Nen users and a corpse(Kite). What good would that do her against Hisoka? Her only real battle ability is Terpsichora which is self admittedly mainly for situations she'll know she'll lose, it increases her abilities beyond what she can do herself and it stays active after death it's totally a last resort tactic.

So my argument became "irrelevant" 5 sentences from the end huh? oooh, sure your not just clutching for straws? How is it irrelevant? Because you disagree? Zeno and Netero were equals shown by the mutual respect they had for each other. Chrollo and Zeno are equals based off the fight they had where Chrollo dealt with Zeno and Silva. Netero and Meruem are equals because while Meruem may have been stronger Netero was smarter and fights are not won solely on physical strength differentials. Also you're talking about measuring prime Meruem's power to ancient Netero's power.

You'll probably claim it's an irrelevant comparison but Shikamaru is less powerful than Kiba, if they were to push a rock the furthest Kiba would win. However Shikamaru is smarter than Kiba and in a fight Shikamaru would be able to beat him 9 times out of 10.

 

[Zanithe]

Ill go with Pitou. Netero admitted himself he's no match for her/him (dont know the gender).

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Rather than simply denouncing my claim why don't you try to counter it. How is Dr. Blythe any more powerful than bungee gum as a fighting power? How about puppeteering, a move showed against non Nen users and a corpse(Kite). What good would that do her against Hisoka? Her only real battle ability is Terpsichora which is self admittedly mainly for situations she'll know she'll lose, it increases her abilities beyond what she can do herself and it stays active after death it's totally a last resort tactic.

So my argument became "irrelevant" 5 sentences from the end huh? oooh, sure your not just clutching for straws? How is it irrelevant? Because you disagree? Zeno and Netero were equals shown by the mutual respect they had for each other. Chrollo and Zeno are equals based off the fight they had where Chrollo dealt with Zeno and Silva. Netero and Meruem are equals because while Meruem may have been stronger Netero was smarter and fights are not won solely on physical strength differentials. Also you're talking about measuring prime Meruem's power to ancient Netero's power.

You'll probably claim it's an irrelevant comparison but Shikamaru is less powerful than Kiba, if they were to push a rock the furthest Kiba would win. However Shikamaru is smarter than Kiba and in a fight Shikamaru would be able to beat him 9 times out of 10.

You do know Pitou has more nen abilities, have you even read the fight. She was able to cut off one of Adul Gon's arms. While Bungee Gum's best feat is throwing around Heaven Arena Gon....... Zeno and Netero was never considered equal or you ****ing stupid having mutal respect doesn't mean you're equal. I'm pretty sure Zeno even said Netero was a monster as well THERE IS NOTHING ABSOLUTE NOTHING that put Zeno near Netero. Anyone in the show apart from Meruem and Adult Gon get squashed by the Bduhha. And your argument became irrelevant the second you said Netero and Meruem was equal, the manga clearly shows Meruem as superior. Without the intent to kill he took everything from Netero and Netero had to use a cheap tactic, Netero's strongest Attack got tanked by Meruem and all he ad was some scratches. And to make it worse this was Pre Rose Meruem........... Your Shikamaru comparison is irrelevant because Meruem has shown high level intellect even higher than Netero. You argument became irrelevant when you said Zeno was equal to Netero when Netero's feats are far superior plus it has been implied Netero is stronger. AND THEN YOU GIVE THE DUMBEST CLAIM THAT Netero was equal to Meruem. When the manga clearly digress




Meruem>Netero>>Zeno


Pitou>>>>Hisoka.​

 

[chopstickchakra]

You do know Pitou has more nen abilities, have you even read the fight. She was able to cut off one of Adul Gon's arms. While Bungee Gum's best feat is throwing around Heaven Arena Gon....... Zeno and Netero was never considered equal or you ****ing stupid having mutal respect doesn't mean you're equal. I'm pretty sure Zeno even said Netero was a monster as well THERE IS NOTHING ABSOLUTE NOTHING that put Zeno near Netero. Anyone in the show apart from Meruem and Adult Gon get squashed by the Bduhha. And your argument became irrelevant the second you said Netero and Meruem was equal, the manga clearly shows Meruem as superior. Without the intent to kill he took everything from Netero and Netero had to use a cheap tactic, Netero's strongest Attack got tanked by Meruem and all he ad was some scratches. And to make it worse this was Pre Rose Meruem........... Your Shikamaru comparison is irrelevant because Meruem has shown high level intellect even higher than Netero. You argument became irrelevant when you said Zeno was equal to Netero when Netero's feats are far superior plus it has been implied Netero is stronger. AND THEN YOU GIVE THE DUMBEST CLAIM THAT Netero was equal to Meruem. When the manga clearly digress




Meruem>Netero>>Zeno


Pitou>>>>Hisoka.​

"While Bungee Gum's best feat is throwing around Heaven Arena Gon" So because we haven't seen Hisoka in awhile you completely disregard the practical and combat ability of the skill which was noted by several skilled fighters. Ok.

"AND THEN YOU GIVE THE DUMBEST CLAIM THAT Netero was equal to Meruem. When the manga clearly digress" If the Manga disagreed then Netero wouldn't have beaten Meruem. As I said Netero was smarter than Maruem, so Meruem's greater physical strength was left pointless therefore =. I never said they were equal in strength, I said they were = in a fight because Netero is smart/deceitful enough to use tactics to ensure victory where Meruem relied on his insurmountable strength.


"Your Shikamaru comparison is irrelevant" Called it.

"Meruem has shown high level intellect even higher than Netero." if he was smarter than Netero then he would've realized Netero's plan at the beginning, he wouldn't have realized at the last second Netero led him to a secluded area underground in order to destroy him, he'd have seen it was a trap.

 

[eagle8]

Meruem>Netero>>Zeno


Pitou>>>>Hisoka.​

Meruem>Netero>=<Zeno

pitou>=<Hisoka

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

"While Bungee Gum's best feat is throwing around Heaven Arena Gon" So because we haven't seen Hisoka in awhile you completely disregard the practical and combat ability of the skill which was noted by several skilled fighters. Ok.

You wanted to talk about nen abilities feats, his best feats is throwing around Heavens arena Gon. And Pitou has been said to be above Netero at the start of the arc, that's better than any hype Hisoka has gotten. It was even said that Pitou nen was was darker and had more malice than Hisoka's or Illumi's. So I didn't disregard anything, Pitou's acknowledgement is greater than Hisoka's ​

"AND THEN YOU GIVE THE DUMBEST CLAIM THAT Netero was equal to Meruem. When the manga clearly digress" If the Manga disagreed then Netero wouldn't have beaten Meruem. As I said Netero was smarter than Maruem, so Meruem's greater physical strength was left pointless therefore =. I never said they were equal in strength, I said they were = in a fight because Netero is smart/deceitful enough to use tactics to ensure victory where Meruem relied on his insurmountable strength.

You are stupid Netero never beat Meruem, the King tanked all of his attacks with minimal injury, and the only way Netero could severely hurt him was by implanting a artificial bomb made by scientist inside of him. And then he still died will Meruem survived for longer. And no it clearly show Meruem superior in intellect, his appiled his Gungi tactics to checkmate Netero, and the only reason Netero done that much is because the King didn't want to kill Netero, while Netero on the other had the intent to kill. Meruem has superuor strength and intellect.
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"Your Shikamaru comparison is irrelevant" Called it.

"Meruem has shown high level intellect even higher than Netero." if he was smarter than Netero then he would've realized Netero's plan at the beginning, he wouldn't have realized at the last second Netero led him to a secluded area underground in order to destroy him, he'd have seen it was a trap.

Are you stupid? Just because you're smarter than someone doesn't mean you can predict what they're are doing. Unless Shikamru can read Naruto's mind now, just because he's smarter......


End of the day Netero was inferior to Meruem.



Meruem>Netero>>Pitou>Kaito>Hisoka.​

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Meruem>Netero>=<Zeno

pitou>=<Hisoka

Stop being a delusional little fapboy and at least put up a argument.


Meruem>Netero>Pre Training Netero>Zeno

Pitou>Kaito>Hisoka​

 

[xcoyote]

Lol why is this shit still goin on,Pitou blitzes and decapitates this clown no diff.

 

[Twisted007]

Lol why is this shit still goin on,Pitou blitzes and decapitates this clown no diff.

This......

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

91 post discussing such obvious match up ? LOL, Pitou stomp

 

[Platinum360]

Pitou wins this by default!

 

[eagle8]

(Y) shodaimeicon:

 

[Uchiha Samater]

SPOIIIIILEEEEERRR

illumi later on informs what happened in regards to the chimera ants and says to hisoka he missed out n fighting some strong ppl including netero and mereum , [he doesnt underestimate their strength to hisoka at all] and hisoka becomes slightly disappointed
Hisoka is still yet to go all out, so he is a hard card to read [no pun intended]

 

[eagle8]

SPOIIIIILEEEEERRR

illumi later on informs what happened in regards to the chimera ants and says to hisoka he missed out n fighting some strong ppl including netero and mereum , [he doesnt underestimate their strength to hisoka at all] and hisoka becomes slightly disappointed
Hisoka is still yet to go all out, so he is a hard card to read [no pun intended]

yes that's right !

 

[V h o]

Pitou low difficulty. The ants have been the strongest characters so far in the series imo. Although Hisoka doesn't seem to be showing his full power.

 

[-Akuma-]

SPOIIIIILEEEEERRR

illumi later on informs what happened in regards to the chimera ants and says to hisoka he missed out n fighting some strong ppl including netero and mereum , [he doesnt underestimate their strength to hisoka at all] and hisoka becomes slightly disappointed
Hisoka is still yet to go all out, so he is a hard card to read [no pun intended]

Yes he missed out on fighting, but if he was there he would've got raped. Hisoka's feats don't put him anywhere near Pitou.​

 

[mishoa]

"While Bungee Gum's best feat is throwing around Heaven Arena Gon" So because we haven't seen Hisoka in awhile you completely disregard the practical and combat ability of the skill which was noted by several skilled fighters. Ok.

"AND THEN YOU GIVE THE DUMBEST CLAIM THAT Netero was equal to Meruem. When the manga clearly digress" If the Manga disagreed then Netero wouldn't have beaten Meruem. As I said Netero was smarter than Maruem, so Meruem's greater physical strength was left pointless therefore =. I never said they were equal in strength, I said they were = in a fight because Netero is smart/deceitful enough to use tactics to ensure victory where Meruem relied on his insurmountable strength.


"Your Shikamaru comparison is irrelevant" Called it.

"Meruem has shown high level intellect even higher than Netero." if he was smarter than Netero then he would've realized Netero's plan at the beginning, he wouldn't have realized at the last second Netero led him to a secluded area underground in order to destroy him, he'd have seen it was a trap.

yeah because Meruem realizing that Netero has an almost perfect defense with near limitless possibilities for blocking and systematically probing his defenses for hundreds of thousands of hits to find an opening that has a one to a million chance of showing up with Meruem using the slight shifts in Netero's behavior to detect a trend in the way Netero reacts and than plan ahead to find that one in a million opening a exploit it yeah Meruem clearly just used strength to beat Netero no In fact if that was the case than Meruem would have lost tbh Netero relied on his nen's super speed and versatility to even stand a chance it was stated that the only thing Netero surpassed him in was pure speed so yeah.... plus come on you gotta know this thread was stupid right? Hisoka beating Pitou would mean that Hisoka is stronger than Netero in terms of physical ablilites since we know Pitou was and one I dont think Hisoka is I dont even think he can beat the majority of the Zodiac 12 and not even Kite a Hunter who was trained by Ging himself who recently has shown to potentially be top three in the verse so... no he wouldnt beat Pitou