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So no matter what hes doing and no matter what attack he uses - its Godly.
Half NV can use kage bunshins but when Hiruzen using them - its Godly attack.
Almost everyone has elements , probably everyone has it but not everyone knows how to use it but when Hiruzen shows his elements - its Godly.
I mean if he would fart that would be Godly fart as well.
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Can half NV use five clones to launch attacks of different elements simultaneously and match the power of zetsu controlled shinsuusenju?
 

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He used every element without handsign, and beside that only Rinnegan users were able to master all five elemtns and kakuzu which he stole hearts and got trolled by kids, and why u mad bro? Hiruzen is living up to his prime, and there is more to come.
 

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This is the truth. That's why I say these fanboys are as good as blind. Hashirama just created a Juubi-sized Shinsuusenju whilst Madara has a Susano'o that made mountains look small. What he did is impressive but by far is it Godly, all he has proven me is that he's Hokage level and nothing more. Also, Hashirama got called "God of Shinobi" by Orochimaru recently whilst Hiruzen got ignored. Orochimaru couldn't even control Hashirama for God's sake.

Also, why are they bringing up handseals? That was so 2005. I haven't seen anyone use multiple handseals for a jutsu in this war. *facepalm*
 
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This is the truth. That's why I say these fanboys are as good as blind. Hashirama just created a Juubi-sized Shinsuusenju whilst Madara has a Susano'o that made mountains look small. What he did is impressive but by far is it Godly, all he has proven me is that he's Hokage level and nothing more. Also, Hashirama got called "God of Shinobi" by Orochimaru recently whilst Hiruzen got ignored. Orochimaru couldn't even control Hashirama for God's sake.

Also, why are they bringing up handseals? That was so 2005. I haven't seen anyone use multiple handseals for a jutsu in this war. *facepalm*

yaya keep going, because it is the size of the jutsu you pull that determind your skill.

Look the scale of that jutsu, it is bigger than "Shinsuusenju" and yet it only killed fodders, and stopped by a flying brat and a kid
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Anyone can use any element but having all 5 at that level is pretty special
 

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Zetsu is using low diff right now, and its taking Hiruzen and the allaince WITH the kage to help. Hiruzen isnt godly, godly would be if he were soloing.
 

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yaya keep going, because it is the size of the jutsu you pull that determind your skill.

Look the scale of that jutsu, it is bigger than "Shinsuusenju" and yet it only killed fodders, and stopped by a flying brat and a kid
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So scale doesn't matter? A pebble is as destructive as a country sized meteor? Ok, Hiruzen fanboy.
 

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Most people believe he is godly the only reason he was able to pull off 5 clones and all elements at once is only because of Edo tensei logic is edo tensei > Hiruzen
 

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He used every element without handsign, and beside that only Rinnegan users were able to master all five elemtns and kakuzu which he stole hearts and got trolled by kids, and why u mad bro? Hiruzen is living up to his prime, and there is more to come.

Itachi can use jutsu without handsigns and that alone makes him a God?
 

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So scale doesn't matter? A pebble is as destructive as a country sized meteor? Ok, Hiruzen fanboy.

Not my fault you can't read the damn manga, Hashirama > Juubi with Shisekiyoujin
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Now the concentrated energy is used well. Scale doesn't mean sh*t
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according to your logic scale > skill, meanwhile manga proves otherwise.
 

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Itachi can use jutsu without handsigns and that alone makes him a God?

Ya what does Itachi exactly have? mangekyō sharingan, and guess what again? He was only able to master fire & water release.

Beside Rinnegan users & Kakuzu who stole heartz, there isn't anybody who could master the "Five elements" on his own.
The more you upgrade your eyes, the easier everything becomes, meanwhile Hiruzen did it all by himself.
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He is still not as impressive as the other Hokages/Kages.
 

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What? Hes top10 and beats yours Minato mid diff
You need to master MS to be in the Kage tier for the limited amount of time you can use it before reaching blindness. You need EMS or combine your MS with Hashirama's DNA to compete on equal terms with Kage lvl fighters without risking death from the own drawbacks of the techniques and to master them to reach Hokage lvl fighters. This is exactly what the manga shows. So for someone like Itachi he is in the first case unless you count him as an edo
 
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