Hiruzen will be top 10 by the end! Mark my words!

[Sacrosanct]

Just watch. The moment Hiruzen gets his feats. Prepare to jump on the Bandwagon.

We're getting feats from the same Hiruzen that admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru.

 

[MickNerks]

By his Hype he is top 3

After we have seen him defeat a part1 Prime Orochimaru and beat the Full-Powered Kyuubi back with Enma w/no effort, he truly should be in top 10, but ill respectively wait for more feats.

 

[MickNerks]

We're getting feats from the same Hiruzen that admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru.

Why do you keep running on that line that Hiruzen admitted inferiority to orochimaru in part1?

He also admitted superiority to Tobirama (Which tobirama didn't deny) in part2 while he was a child (16-18), but im sure you wouldn't dare remember that.

 

[startup97]

Why do you keep running on that line that Hiruzen admitted inferiority to orochimaru in part1?

He also admitted superiority to Tobirama (Which tobirama didn't deny) in part2 while he was a child (16-18), but im sure you wouldn't dare remember that.

Oh ya! Just remembered that! What now Sacrosanct!?!?!!?

 

[Amaterasuice]

Hiruzen is going to be a freakishly strong character, but as of right now he'd prob be behind well, all of them besides maybe Tsunade.

But his prime I speculate to be right behind Minato (since he has kcm now).

 

[Makoto]

Kishi has something special for Hiruzen. The only Hokage left to show his abilities is Hiruzen and as well all know! They save the best for last. You see haters, you can hate Hiruzen all you want but the moment he shows an OP technique, everyone will jump on the bandwagon and it will be glorious for US Hiruzen fans.

Just remember the power of 1 chapter. The chapter where Tobirama transports the blast back to Obito. I remember reading on the forums on how people called him weak AND than BOOM!!! We get all these threads on how he is top 10 now and how he is stronger than Minato. Believe me when I say Hiruzen will get his time. Be prepared.

I could care less what Hiruzen haters have to say, Hiruzen is and always will be the strongest Hokage until proven otherwise. Hiruzen, in the old age of 69, stated he is the strongest Hokage while he was alive when he told Iruka "Don't speak in past tense." Hiruzen haters always ignore this, they only point out that Hiruzen's hype comes from Iruka, ignoring that even Orochimaru called Hiruzen God of Shinobi.

I got one question for Hiruzen haters, why did Hiruzen tell Iruka to not speak in past tense if he isn't stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama?

 

[grizzlyshree]

I could care less what Hiruzen haters have to say, Hiruzen is and always will be the strongest Hokage until proven otherwise. Hiruzen, in the old age of 69, stated he is the strongest Hokage while he was alive when he told Iruka "Don't speak in past tense." Hiruzen haters always ignore this, they only point out that Hiruzen's hype comes from Iruka, ignoring that even Orochimaru called Hiruzen God of Shinobi.

I got one question for Hiruzen haters, why did Hiruzen tell Iruka to not speak in past tense if he isn't stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama?

which chapter was that?

 

[grizzlyshree]

Just watch. The moment Hiruzen gets his feats. Prepare to jump on the Bandwagon.

this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[N1nken]

We're getting feats from the same Hiruzen that admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru.

For the longest time, I believe as far back as your days of omnipotence, you've been holding on to that piece of information like it's spot-on fact; as if it's your saving grace in any argument regarding Hiruzen. You're clinging to that statement as much as people cling to this apparent "false hope" that Hiruzen will do anything worthwhile. When Hiruzen was allegedly admitted inferiority against Orochimaru, he said "Most likely, including me". Hiruzen doesn't know because he's questioning his strength compared to Orochimaru, whom he hadn't seen nor heard from in years. He's uncertain of how powerful he's become, which is a very safe thing to do considering how old Hiruzen had become. Also, if you don't think Hiruzen will do much, that's fine; but if people like startup want to believe he'll have his moment to shine or be Top 10 or even Top 5 let him believe that. What do people have against wishful thinking? If they get disappointed, that's on them. Cynics are kind of unnecessary, though.

Also, if he's around the level of a Part 1 Orochimaru without any substantial Part 2 feats, then he's above pretty much everyone in Part 1 and has the power to defeat a small country. So, eh, why not.

OT: Personally, in my opinion, Kishi has been turning him into a pretty irrelevant character. I'd be surprised if he even made it to Top 15 at this point, to be honest. But have faith that he does something to amaze you.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

No, even if hiruzen has a technique that destroys the universe, he wont be top 10 because he was killed suddenly by obito befor the could use it, so it doesn't count, and he wont do anything.

 

[startup97]

No, even if hiruzen has a technique that destroys the universe, he wont be top 10 because he was killed suddenly by obito befor the could use it, so it doesn't count, and he wont do anything.

Well don't worry because you'll be on the bandwagon soon enough when he gets his feats.

 

[Sacrosanct]

He also admitted superiority to Tobirama (Which tobirama didn't deny) in part2 while he was a child (16-18), but im sure you wouldn't dare remember that.

As implied by this page here, they were all competitors for the seat of Hokage, meaning they were all around the same level of strength:

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So, I guess they were all stronger than Tobirama then? I think not:

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They were his subordinates for a reason.

Hiruzen states he's the best of all of us:

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This is obviously not including the Nidaime Hokage as Danzo says right after that the Nidaime is the best shinobi in Konohagakure:

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And Hiruzen was obviously lying, as he said he wouldn't die:

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However the Nidaime Hokage already knew that even if all 7 of them ambushed the 20 from Kumogakure, they would still die:

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Did you even read it? It's obvious that Hiruzen was just trying to reassure his teammates, but he knew he would die as well (unless he was a fool). Anything to support Hiruzen now smh

Anyway, as I said before, Hiruzen admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru and he won't be showing us anything but that.

He was at least in his early twenties, by the way; Tsunade seemed to be around 4 in Hashirama's memories making Hiruzen 22 whilst Hashirama was still alive and the Shodai Hokage.

Oh ya! Just remembered that! What now Sacrosanct!?!?!!?

What?

For the longest time, I believe as far back as your days of omnipotence, you've been holding on to that piece of information like it's spot-on fact; as if it's your saving grace in any argument regarding Hiruzen. You're clinging to that statement as much as people cling to this apparent "false hope" that Hiruzen will do anything worthwhile. When Hiruzen was allegedly admitted inferiority against Orochimaru, he said "Most likely, including me". Hiruzen doesn't know because he's questioning his strength compared to Orochimaru, whom he hadn't seen nor heard from in years. He's uncertain of how powerful he's become, which is a very safe thing to do considering how old Hiruzen had become. Also, if you don't think Hiruzen will do much, that's fine; but if people like startup want to believe he'll have his moment to shine or be Top 10 or even Top 5 let him believe that. What do people have against wishful thinking? If they get disappointed, that's on them. Cynics are kind of unnecessary, though.

Also, if he's around the level of a Part 1 Orochimaru without any substantial Part 2 feats, then he's above pretty much everyone in Part 1 and has the power to defeat a small country. So, eh, why not.

OT: Personally, in my opinion, Kishi has been turning him into a pretty irrelevant character. I'd be surprised if he even made it to Top 15 at this point, to be honest. But have faith that he does something to amaze you.

You're the only one here that seems to have sound judgement not clouded by bias. I just started using that page a while back, though. I interpreted that statement differently; I believe that he meant that due to his old age, he doubted that he'd be able to match the might of his prized student (however he does implicate that those outside of the village, such as Jiraiya, would be able to).

 

[startup97]

As implied by this page here, they were all competitors for the seat of Hokage, meaning they were all around the same level of strength:

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So, I guess they were all stronger than Tobirama then? I think not:

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They were his subordinates for a reason.

Hiruzen states he's the best of all of us:

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This is obviously not including the Nidaime Hokage as Danzo says right after that the Nidaime is the best shinobi in Konohagakure:

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And Hiruzen was obviously lying, as he said he wouldn't die:

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However the Nidaime Hokage already knew that even if all 7 of them ambushed the 20 from Kumogakure, they would still die:

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Did you even read it? It's obvious that Hiruzen was just trying to reassure his teammates, but he knew he would die as well (unless he was a fool). Anything to support Hiruzen now smh

Anyway, as I said before, Hiruzen admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru and he won't be showing us anything but that.

He was at least in his early twenties, by the way; Tsunade seemed to be around 4 in Hashirama's memories making Hiruzen 22 whilst Hashirama was still alive and the Shodai Hokage.



What?



You're the only one here that seems to have sound judgement not clouded by bias. I just started using that page a while back, though. I interpreted that statement differently; I believe that he meant that due to his old age, he doubted that he'd be able to match the might of his prized student (however he does implicate that those outside of the village, such as Jiraiya, would be able to).

You can deny it all you want BUT sooner later Hiruzen will get his feats and YOU will be on the bandwagon.

 

[Xāvî1]

Kishi has something special for Hiruzen. The only Hokage left to show his abilities is Hiruzen and as well all know! They save the best for last. You see haters, you can hate Hiruzen all you want but the moment he shows an OP technique, everyone will jump on the bandwagon and it will be glorious for US Hiruzen fans.

Just remember the power of 1 chapter. The chapter where Tobirama transports the blast back to Obito. I remember reading on the forums on how people called him weak AND than BOOM!!! We get all these threads on how he is top 10 now and how he is stronger than Minato. Believe me when I say Hiruzen will get his time. Be prepared.

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[startup97]

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Yes I am sure Kyuubi!

 

[Nattana]

I agree that he may not be the strongest one, but guys... We saw him fight in P1. What were you expecting in P1? Meteors falling from the sky? Perfect Susanoo-like being? Remember that the power scale went since P1 till now from like 2/10 to 10/10. I think there's something from him we've yet to see.

 

[Strawberry]

hiruzen is already in it

 

[startup97]

hiruzen is already in it

Thank you! =D

 

[MickNerks]

As implied by this page here, they were all competitors for the seat of Hokage, meaning they were all around the same level of strength:

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So, I guess they were all stronger than Tobirama then? I think not:

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They were his subordinates for a reason.

This logic is so flawed. Just because they all are competing for the seat of hokage doesn't mean their all around the same level of strength.

Every Male in Konoha 11 is striving for the hokage title.

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So by your logic, Kiba, Shikimaru, Sasuke, Sakura, Shino, and Ino all are equal to naruto in strength.lol Please Stop this failed logic.

Just because they all strive for the same seat of power doesn't mean that they are all equal in power.

Hiruzen states he's the best of all of us:

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This is obviously not including the Nidaime Hokage as Danzo says right after that the Nidaime is the best shinobi in Konohagakure:

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And Hiruzen was obviously lying, as he said he wouldn't die:

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However the Nidaime Hokage already knew that even if all 7 of them ambushed the 20 from Kumogakure, they would still die:

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Did you even read it? It's obvious that Hiruzen was just trying to reassure his teammates, but he knew he would die as well (unless he was a fool). Anything to support Hiruzen now smh

Anyway, as I said before, Hiruzen admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru and he won't be showing us anything but that.

He was at least in his early twenties, by the way; Tsunade seemed to be around 4 in Hashirama's memories making Hiruzen 22 whilst Hashirama was still alive and the Shodai Hokage.

So let me get this straight...

When Hiruzen is young you choose to think that his words aren't credible and he is a liar.

But then when he is old you choose to believe that everything he said is word of law.

You are soo biased its ridiculous. If he credited himself with being stronger than tobirama when he was you then I don't see why you think he was just trying to make his team feel better. It goes against kishi's development for hiruzen. in the databook it state's that hiruzen is honest, cautious, and the most loved hokage of all.

You try to argue that he's a liar and exaggerates.

Hmmmmmm, I wonder who im gonna believe on this one????

 

[startup97]

We're getting feats from the same Hiruzen that admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru.

Shuriken Shadow Clone jutsu was only to test Obito attacks. Hiruzen admitted being weaker because he was OLD. Databook states that a 10 years younger Hiruzen would have wrecked Orochimaru.