Hiruzen vs Orchimaru

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Restrictions, no reanimation jutsu

Who wins?

I think Hiruzen poops on him and then feeds enma.( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)​
 

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Hiruzen ftw...but I honestly have no idea how one goes about killing Orochimaru. Unless you've got something that can send him to another dimension or seal him away completely(which Hiruzen does have the 2nd, but A. it's only a stalemate then, and B. would anyone really be surprised if Orochimaru was sealed by Shiki Fuujin but still found a way out, just because he's Orochimaru?), I think you're shit out of luck. He can tank hits from bijuu, including a bijuu bomb(albeit he took some of the hit away with Rashomon, but still), so I doubt elemental attacks will do much more than just piss him off. Orochimaru is just too OP.
 

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Hiruzen ftw...but I honestly have no idea how one goes about killing Orochimaru. Unless you've got something that can send him to another dimension or seal him away completely(which Hiruzen does have the 2nd, but A. it's only a stalemate then, and B. would anyone really be surprised if Orochimaru was sealed by Shiki Fuujin but still found a way out, just because he's Orochimaru?), I think you're shit out of luck. He can tank hits from bijuu, including a bijuu bomb(albeit he took some of the hit away with Rashomon, but still), so I doubt elemental attacks will do much more than just piss him off. Orochimaru is just too OP.
Not killing but defeating, we all know killing Orchimaru is nearly impossible but he isn't that strong without edo tensei
 

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Not killing but defeating, we all know killing Orchimaru is nearly impossible but he isn't that strong without edo tensei

Unless you're Itachi(or a skilled sharingan genjutsu user) how do you defeat a healthy Orochimaru WITHOUT killing him/sealing him/sending him away??
 

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Unless you're Itachi(or a skilled sharingan genjutsu user) how do you defeat a healthy Orochimaru WITHOUT killing him/sealing him/sending him away??

Orchimaru hasn't really been killed off, to kill him you need to kill all the people who have curse marks and all that.
 

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I'm sorry to say but my lord Orochimaru cannot possibly fight someone who is called a god.
 

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Lord Orochimaru is Awesome, But without edo tensei he cant defeat Hiruzen Sarutobi.

Hiruzen and Enma would wreak med-high difficulty. Oro is no pushover.
 

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Wait how does Oro lose? those 5 new jutsu make that much of a difference?
 

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Current Senju Oru would.... imo. But I plead the FIFFFFF!!! lmao
 

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I don't want to pick between these two....

My heart is telling me Oro.
 

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Prime Hiruzen wins high difficulty. Old Hiruzen loses low-mid difficulty.
 
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Those 5 jutsu won't make a difference against oro. Stalemate if hiruzen uses RDS. Otherwise oro wins.
 

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>Manda
>other giant snakes
>Yamata-no-Orochi
>Immortality
>only way Hiru can defeat Orochimaru is RDS, he is completely immune to everything else lel

Orochimaru beats Hiruzen low-mid dif
 

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oro cna counter hiruzen;'s jutsus.
elemental ? oro has rashomon and yamata to withstand it.

enma? oro can take and block blows with kusanagi.
clones? oro slashes them
 

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Oh God, Orocochimaru's abilities easily overcome Hiruzen's. He just it better.
 
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