[VS] Hiruzen vs Muu

[LuckyMan]

Him not being able to locate muu, still makes him vulnerable to muus physical attacks which he cant execute quite well, thus resulting in hiruzen getting stabbed through muus sword

Where are Muu's feats of executing attacks while invisible so well that Hiruzen can't counter him? When Hiruzen summons Enma, that gives him an extra set of senses to make countering Muu easier. When Muu comes in physical contact with someone (just like that Stone ninja versus Kakashi + Obito) he

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. Onoki countered him perfectly with just

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. Muu trying to stab Hiruzen is literally the fastest way he will die. All Hiruzen does is set up a clone or two and when Muu goes in to stab that one the real Hiruzen pops up and breaks his bones with Enma Staff.

Lol doesnt mean that he can evade jinton, ur example is invalid
the GKF used by tobirama was a directional attack, where tobirama aimed towards juubito,

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since tobirama clearly warned him

He also allowed Minato to escape and he jumped with FTG. Hiruzen used his basic shunshin and got just as far away as Minato did despite Minato teleporting before he even jumped away from Tobirama. Muu's only Jinton feat is the cylindrical one he used versus Onoki and that's not large enough to hit Hiruzen. He would actually need to chase Hiruzen with it in a sweeping format (like how Onoki used it in sweeping format to erase Madara's forest) but he can't chase 3 (shadow clones) Hiruzens with jinton and hes not nuking the whole place to hit all 3 of them at once.

Hiruzen can also counter balance jinton with Fire + Wind + Earth blasts but I don't want to dig into that yet because its a lot to type and its really not even needed.

 

[MickNerks]

I dont see Hiruzen losing with Full Intel on Muu.

Invisible Muu still has to reappear to activate Jinton.

If muu goes invisible, Hiruzen can drop a smoke bomb and create a shadow clone as a decoy. Then when muu re-appears to attack the clone (while hiruzen is hidden) then hiruzen can strike and defeat him.

Its game over, If muu gets trapped in the Diamond prison, because there is no way to escape and Hiruzen could fry him before he gets a chance to use Jinton.

Lets not act like hiruzen isnt already aware on jinton and all its capabilites.