Hiruzen vs Kakashi!

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The Professor vs the Copy Nin!
Location: Gaara vs Kimimaro
Intel: full
Distance: 10 meters

Scenario 1: Current Kakashi vs Old Hiruzen
Scenario 2: War Arc Kakashi vs Edo Hiruzen (regeneration restricted)
Scenario 3: DMS Kakashi vs Hyped Prime Hiruzen

Who wins? The monkey or the Dog?
:hokage: vs :kakashi:
 

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1. Go either way, since I dont know part 2 Hiruzen stamina.
2. Hiruzen High Dif
3. Kakashi rapes
 

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Hiuzen wins first two kakashi stomps at 3
 

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1. Hiruzen wins
Enma solos

2. Hiruzen wins
prime skills


3. Kakashi wins
Susano'o
 

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Hiruzen wins first two, but dies a horrible death in the third scenario
 

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Kakashi wins the first high diff if death seal is restricted ( hiruzen wins if it isn't)kakashi wins the second mid diff and wins the third neg diff

About the first S ,Enma gets killed with raiki or lightning chain ( he hasn't any feats that suggests he can tank raiki,lightning chain or raiki kunai),kakashi can attack hiruzen with a lightning clone ,then kill him with the real one though if death seal isn't restricted ,hiruzen would win the first S

About the second one ,kamui GG ,hiruzen elemental attacks are evaded with going under ground ,enma takes a raiki and dies

About third S ,nothing can be said
 

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Hiruzen wins all 3.

He defeats base Kakashi mid difficulty.

Kamui is countered with his shadow clones, another mid difficulty win.

Hype Hiruzen defeats DMS Kakashi, he knows all techniques. He uses Super Expansion then opens the 8th Gate and steamrolls him.
 

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Hiruzen wins the first scenrio, loses the rest
 

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Hype Hiruzen defeats DMS Kakashi, he knows all techniques. He uses Super Expansion then opens the 8th Gate and steamrolls him.
It's funny because a Super Expansion 8th Gate Hiruzen is still threatless to DMS Kakashi.
 
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Why are you saying War arc kakashi looses at edo hiruzen? Is he fast enough to dodge kamui? No. Can he even make a counter? No. Does he even have a jutsu that would at least block kamui before kakashi uses it? No, since kakashi can use it faster than susano arrows.

1- Hiruzen stomps.
2- Kakashi stomps.
3- Kakashi godly stomps.
 

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Why are you saying War arc kakashi looses at edo hiruzen? Is he fast enough to dodge kamui? No. Can he even make a counter? No. Does he even have a jutsu that would at least block kamui before kakashi uses it? No, since kakashi can use it faster than susano arrows.

1- Hiruzen stomps.
2- Kakashi stomps.
3- Kakashi godly stomps.
 

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1. Could go either way.
2. Kakashi wins.
3. Kakashi wins.
 

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I don't see how old hiruzen reacts to any form of kakashi's raikiri. Lord knows enma can't stop it.
I don't have to explain the other 2.
 

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The Professor vs the Copy Nin!
Location: Gaara vs Kimimaro
Intel: full
Distance: 10 meters

Scenario 1: Current Kakashi vs Old Hiruzen
Scenario 2: War Arc Kakashi vs Edo Hiruzen (regeneration restricted)
Scenario 3: DMS Kakashi vs Hyped Prime Hiruzen

Who wins? The monkey or the Dog?
:hokage: vs :kakashi:
Scenario 1: Sharinganless kakashi gets rekt
Scenario 2: Hiruzen high diff cause kamui spam
Scenario 3: "Prime" Hiruzen neutralizes kamui, oneshots PS and then kills kakashi
 

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Scenario 1: Current Kakashi vs Old Hiruzen

Old Hiruzen's stamina is worthless. A couple of elemental ninjutsu + Kage Bunshin and Enma summoning would deplete it. Kakashi while being a non Uchiha can fight for hours with the Sharingan activated, using multiple times the Mangekyo Sharingan, and a lot of high chakra taxing jutsu in the mean time: without the Sharingan drain, Kakashi has tons more chakra than Hiruzen. Kakashi is also a lot faster and smarter. Hiruzen is going to eat a Raiton Kage Bunshin and then a Raikiri kunai rips his head in half. Or Enma is bisected with Raiden (that cut the V2 chakra, the same V2 chakra who could withstood Kusanagi sword that would cut Enma) and then Hiruzen is killed with Raikiri.

Scenario 2: War Arc Kakashi vs Edo Hiruzen (regeneration restricted)

Kakashi is tiers above. Kamui GG, Kamui teleporting + Kamui GG, Raiton Kage Bunshin feint (that fooled Pain, and with Kage Bunshin, Itachi) + Raikiri, Doton underground + Raiden, enormous speed gap with more speed + Sharingan precognition, Sharingan genjutsu, ninjutsu preempting and copying, etc ...

Scenario 3: DMS Kakashi vs Hyped Prime Hiruzen

Just lol. Kakashi blitzed Kaguya with Rikudo enhanced speed + phasing hax. Hiruzen is killed with Kamui Raikiri without being to do anything. Or his body/head is warped away in an instant by something that is uncounterable and faster than Kaguya's S/T that blitzed Rinnegan Sasuke. Or Kakashi activates Perfect Susanoo and slashes, or throws a Kamui Shuriken. Or Kakashi [insert what do you want] and Hiruzen dies.
 

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Scenario 1: Current Kakashi vs Old Hiruzen
Scenario 2: War Arc Kakashi vs Edo Hiruzen (regeneration restricted)
Scenario 3: DMS Kakashi vs Hyped Prime Hiruzen

Senario 1: Hiruzen wins with the lowest of difficulty. This is basically the same kakashi that crapped his pants when he was confronted by orochimaru, the same orochimaru who crapped his pants toward the end of his battle with hiruzen.

Senario 2: Edo Hiruzen wins. Kamui is easily countered by blocking the users vision, which hiruzen is more then capable of doing. Hiruzen actually has a counter to every jutsu in kakashi's arsenal with his mastery of all elements.

Senario 3: By hype, hiruzen wins with mid diff. He could easily create 5 shadow clones and have them all enter the eight gate. PS would be destroyed with little difficulty and kakashi could be trapped in one of hiruzen's 1000 genjutsu's to prevent him from becoming intangable. GG!!
 

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Kakashi blizes 1st and second scenarios, and kamui snipes the third one, and second one.
 

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Scenario 1: Current Kakashi vs Old Hiruzen

Old Hiruzen's stamina is worthless. A couple of elemental ninjutsu + Kage Bunshin and Enma summoning would deplete it. Kakashi while being a non Uchiha can fight for hours with the Sharingan activated, using multiple times the Mangekyo Sharingan, and a lot of high chakra taxing jutsu in the mean time: without the Sharingan drain, Kakashi has tons more chakra than Hiruzen. Kakashi is also a lot faster and smarter. Hiruzen is going to eat a Raiton Kage Bunshin and then a Raikiri kunai rips his head in half. Or Enma is bisected with Raiden (that cut the V2 chakra, the same V2 chakra who could withstood Kusanagi sword that would cut Enma) and then Hiruzen is killed with Raikiri.

Please show me a scan which states that hiruzen's stamina is worthless.

I hope you realize that hiruzen and kakashi had the same stamina value in the databook, so in terms of stamina they are equal. I dont know how you could believe he had low reserves when he was able to fight for a hour, after making 2 clones, summoning a boss summon, using multiple jutsu, fighting 3 shinobi in CQC, and summoning a DEATH GOD to rip souls out of peoples bodies.


You also realize that kakashi was dying due to his and , and twice by giving him the kyuubi's chakra. He was far from being able to spam kamui.

You also seem to forget that hiruzen can make shadow clones as well, so hiruzen blindly falling for a raition kage bushin trap is very unlikely.

Says kakashi is smarter than hiruzen, yet .smh

Scenario 2: War Arc Kakashi vs Edo Hiruzen (regeneration restricted)

Kakashi is tiers above. Kamui GG, Kamui teleporting + Kamui GG, Raiton Kage Bunshin feint (that fooled Pain, and with Kage Bunshin, Itachi) + Raikiri, Doton underground + Raiden, enormous speed gap with more speed + Sharingan precognition, Sharingan genjutsu, ninjutsu preempting and copying, etc ...

Claims kakashi is teirs aways from hiruzen in speed yet kakashi and orochimaru have the exact same speed stat in the data book, and hiruzen was not only able to fight with him on equal ground but also was able to catch him off guard and blitz. Someone with Kakashi's speed has already been shown to not be a problem for hiruzen.

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Scenario 3: DMS Kakashi vs Hyped Prime Hiruzen

Just lol. Kakashi blitzed Kaguya with Rikudo enhanced speed + phasing hax. Hiruzen is killed with Kamui Raikiri without being to do anything. Or his body/head is warped away in an instant by something that is uncounterable and faster than Kaguya's S/T that blitzed Rinnegan Sasuke. Or Kakashi activates Perfect Susanoo and slashes, or throws a Kamui Shuriken. Or Kakashi [insert what do you want] and Hiruzen dies.

speed is tiers above kakashi's and kaguya's. 5 hiruzen clones all opening eight gates easily overwhelms kakashi.
 
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Kakashi takes all 3. No explanation needed.
 
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