Hiruzen underrated.

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Because they obviously don't know the
seals, I mean Come on even the sound 5 did A weaker form of this barrier.


You can call Hiruzen a weakling all you want. By both Naruto and Sasuke's own admission, "Looks like they're not just talk after all"
 

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Hiruzen has speed feats above most of the verse.
 

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Hiruzen uses Super Multi-Size Technique, grabs Deidara and crushes him. DONE.

Deidara dodges it and Hiruzen dies of epic nose-bleed once he sees Deidara's F A B U L O U S hair.​
 

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We have only seen him fight as a old man, if he can take on Orochimaru and two edo kages just think what he could do in his prime.
 

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Dude... Part 1 CM sasuke takes this mid diff LOOOL Hiruzen only hass hype to go off of and he hasn't done anything to back up that hype. Highest jutsu he's done is B rank and it was katon. No legit speed feats either.
 

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Hiruzen has speed feats above most of the verse.

Yeah, so I guess that's why the databook puts him on early part2 ( !!!!! ) Sakura's level in regards of speed.
 

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Yeah, so I guess that's why the databook puts him on early part2 ( !!!!! ) Sakura's level in regards of speed.

Early part 2 =/= War arc stats
Edo Hiruzen =/= Old Hiruzen
 

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Early part 2 =/= War arc stats
Edo Hiruzen =/= Old Hiruzen


1. True, current Sakura > early part2 Sakura > Old Hiruzen
2. Sure, because Edo Hiruzen's chakra is unlimited.
 

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1. True, current Sakura > early part2 Sakura > Old Hiruzen
2. Sure, because Edo Hiruzen's chakra is unlimited.

Unlimited chakra isn't the reason that Edo Hiruzen is able to keep step with Tobirama. The edo tensei gets rid of the old age drawbacks.

Plus, Old Hiruzen was keeping up with Orochimaru who has a 4.5 in speed. Which means that even an old, dying Hiruzen is faster than part 2 Sakura.
 

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Dude... Part 1 CM sasuke takes this mid diff LOOOL Hiruzen only hass hype to go off of and he hasn't done anything to back up that hype. Highest jutsu he's done is B rank and it was katon. No legit speed feats either.

What are you talking about? His speed was on par with Hashirama and Tobirama.
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What are you talking about? His speed was on par with Hashirama and Tobirama.
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What is this scan supposed to be showing me? i see them landing. If your trying to say that he kept up with them Tobirama had too use FTG on everyone so your speed feats claim is false. In your logic ASF are as fast as KM naruto because they were running only meters behind him
 

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What is this scan supposed to be showing me? i see them landing. If your trying to say that he kept up with them Tobirama had too use FTG on everyone so your speed feats claim is false. In your logic ASF are as fast as KM naruto because they were running only meters behind him

It was shunshin, not FTG. Edo Hiruzen simply kept up with 2 top tier speedsters.
 

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You amongst a few others are true Hiruzen fans including myself, I will award you for your loyalty.
 
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