Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

[spokentruth]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

He isn't weak, just because he can't beat Everyone and anyone doesn't make him weak.

Going by Your Logic, Everyone is weak apart from Kabuto (since he is the strongest thanks to Edo tensei)

And when did iruka say he thinks the 3rd hokage can still beat Naruto?. Care to show the manga page?

I was saying Iruka thought he himself could defeat Naruto And no Everyone is not weak and yes BM Naruto would crush Hiruzen Prime

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Actually, this was a VERY good point. +Rep. Now let me explain before Hiruzen style: Fanboyinsm is used on me.

Guy's, in his Prime it is true he was called the God of Shinobi, but he was a God to every shinobi in the present and the past, how can he be rated to someone who wasn't born yet? In other words let's say hiruzen was prime now in Part 2, I don't think he would have that title.

The Title was just a Part 1 hype. In other words the difference of power levels were different from Hiruzen's Time then current Part 2 Naruto. I understand many of you think he is the strongest because of the title, but he got the title BECAUSE he was the strongest at the time, (Understand?)

He is in no way shape or form weak, He at 69 years old beat The 1st 2 Hokage's and took Orochimaru's arms at the same time.

But even if we did know the extent of Hiruzen's powers, do you honestly think he could beat BM Naruto, EMS Sasuke, Rinne-Tobi, and the list could go on. The point is Hiruzen is powerful indeed, really truly, but this overrating of him needs to stop.

Thats what i've been saying

Hiruzen fanboys are starting to get on my nerves especially when they believe hiruzen beat both hokages at their strongest which is obviously nonsense. Oro didnt make use of the hokages at all, he was a noob with the technique and thats why the hokages looked piss poor. Not to take anything away from the old man, but you are clearly talking out of your ass if you say he took on 2 hokages at their strongest

Yes they wherr at Full Power u just dont want to Believe that Because there suppose 2b so Good there just hyped lost to weak worn out Hiruzen i've never and will never be a fan of Hashirama Because of Madara he is in every1 top 10 smh.

 

[itachisagenuis]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Hiruzen being called God of shinobi is just words, we havnt seen nothing of his prime, till we do, this thread is useless.

 

[ajpn920]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

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"He was said to be the strongest of all"

Who said this? Right...the people in his ERA!!

Question:

How can the people in his ERA knows what the future holds in the shinobi world? Were they able to see that there is no shinobi stronger than Hiruzen in the future? If someone with the power of EDO Madara, Tobi, Minato, Itachi, BM Naruto combined is born in the near future, can they still say that Hiruzen is the strongest?

He was called the God of Shinobi

Who called him this? The people in his ERA

All of that is not a direct statement from Kishi saying that Hiruzen is the strongest. That's all character's opinion. Iruka believes Hiruzen was the strongest. Kabuto considered Hashi's power a fairy tale. Kakashi believes that only Naruto can surpass Minato. A believes that Minato could never be surpassed. Naruto wants to be the strongest of all and he dreams on surpassing the 4th.

Bottomline is all that was said or was written in the DB and Manga are all characters opinion.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

kishi obviously doesnt care why and will not address it. hes too busy wanking over 1st hokage

 

[Sonin]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

"He was said to be the strongest of all"

Who said this? Right...the people in his ERA!!

Question:

How can the people in his ERA knows what the future holds in the shinobi world? Were they able to see that there is no shinobi stronger than Hiruzen in the future? If someone with the power of EDO Madara, Tobi, Minato, Itachi, BM Naruto combined is born in the near future, can they still say that Hiruzen is the strongest?

He was called the God of Shinobi

Who called him this? The people in his ERA

All of that is not a direct statement from Kishi saying that Hiruzen is the strongest. That's all character's opinion. Iruka believes Hiruzen was the strongest. Kabuto considered Hashi's power a fairy tale. Kakashi believes that only Naruto can surpass Minato. A believes that Minato could never be surpassed. Naruto wants to be the strongest of all and he dreams on surpassing the 4th.

Bottomline is all that was said or was written in the DB and Manga are all characters opinion.

Also a god of shinobi is (A) god. It is also referred to as someone who knows all ninjutsu.. Does that make him stronger? No Ninjutsu is not everything. Maybe he knew more ninjutsu than the others but that may be it.

 

[spokentruth]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Also a god of shinobi is (A) god. It is also referred to as someone who knows all ninjutsu.. Does that make him stronger? No Ninjutsu is not everything. Maybe he knew more ninjutsu than the others but that may be it.

I Get where your coming from

 

[Talal]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

"He was said to be the strongest of all"

Who said this? Right...the people in his ERA!!

Question:

How can the people in his ERA knows what the future holds in the shinobi world? Were they able to see that there is no shinobi stronger than Hiruzen in the future? If someone with the power of EDO Madara, Tobi, Minato, Itachi, BM Naruto combined is born in the near future, can they still say that Hiruzen is the strongest?

He was called the God of Shinobi

Who called him this? The people in his ERA

All of that is not a direct statement from Kishi saying that Hiruzen is the strongest. That's all character's opinion. Iruka believes Hiruzen was the strongest. Kabuto considered Hashi's power a fairy tale. Kakashi believes that only Naruto can surpass Minato. A believes that Minato could never be surpassed. Naruto wants to be the strongest of all and he dreams on surpassing the 4th.

Bottomline is all that was said or was written in the DB and Manga are all characters opinion.

Well, I never said he was stronger than current characters like Naruto or Rinnegan Madara, but many past Kages existed back then including Hashirama. Now Hashirama might be stronger I don't know, but if it was a common belief that Hiruzen is the strongest Kage ever then that means that he is in Hashirama's level if not stronger.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Your name should be "spokenbullshit"

 

[Sonin]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Well, I never said he was stronger than current characters like Naruto or Rinnegan Madara, but many past Kages existed back then including Hashirama. Now Hashirama might be stronger I don't know, but if it was a common belief that Hiruzen is the strongest Kage ever then that means that he is in Hashirama's level if not stronger.

It was a common belief that Nagato was a god.. That didn't make it so.

 

[Kuriboh]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

How about hanzo, the three sannin, minato was hokage still barely out of hiruzen's prime, nagato, bee, third raikage, A, etc were all alive and climbing towards their primes...

He was considered the god of the shinobi for being well rounded in all areas and be actually top notch in all those areas. While most ninja just have one strength, which they were extremely good at, he was extremely good at everything, but still not the best in each area

 

[The Monster]

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[The Monster]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

you hear the word (they said the 3 was to be the strongest out all of the them. word they said who said) my point said see if someone i was the best fight in the block the yea then lose but someone said see the word said in it.it can be use in a lot different wayz

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

I was coming into this thread expecting a detailed analysis or theory of some sort instead i get some idiotic babbling. Have you heard yourself, he was the only strong ninja back then all the great ones werent alive wow. What about the third raikage who so far we know is only hurt by his own attacks, and the second mizukage with his genjustu etc there were plenty of strong ninja back then, still fact of the matter is he was the best

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Minato sucks

 

[Prime Rib]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

sorry but in his prime he must be hell of a strong. he was able to take on 2 hokages? and oro so i dont see why people dont accept it

 

[Kazekage35]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

I'll tell you why he was the god of shinobi, because Kishi said so!

 

[Mizukage88]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

o golly gosh this again

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

The ramen guy is easily the god of shinobi- FACT.

 

[Naruto9001]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Hiruzen hasn't lived up to his hype in part 1 but his not weak.

 

[Vexorian]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

-rep 4what everything i said was real Logic and his feats are weak af

Get real any Rinnagan user would stomp him any MS/EMS user would stomp him

Naruto would stomp him A is 2 quick he would 1 punch K/o his as

There was a thread about this awhile ago. Power scaling Part 1 - Part 2 has to be taken into account. Nidaime spitting out water in Part 1 was considered godlike.