Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

[Lucidus]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

no dude i think kishi made a big mistake as he might never thought of this much plot ...bcs seeing how strong madara and what he said 1st must be legendry and think 3rd can keep up with for example raikage where as madara now playing with 5 kages like him now think how strong hashi who even beat madara + qb together

secondly those edo tensai have limited power as its just beggining of that tech and kabuto told himself that his summons are stronger

ty someone else with sence +rep

 

[spokentruth]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

may be thats why naruto lose to itachi heheheh

No Naruto knew nothing about Itachi Genjutsu and from with battles with Sasuke Naruto looks the sharingan user in the Eye

Should i name more ppl who had more exp but still lost???

 

[Untitled]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

no dude i think kishi made a big mistake as he might never thought of this much plot ...bcs seeing how strong madara and what he said 1st must be legendry and think 3rd can keep up with for example raikage where as madara now playing with 5 kages like him now think how strong hashi who even beat madara + qb together

secondly those edo tensai have limited power as its just beggining of that tech and kabuto told himself that his summons are stronger

madara didnt live throught the 3rds prime, or did he? naruto has a theme that the next generation always pasts the last, will of fire. Hiruzen >> harashima, and the power scaling was different in part 1.

 

[Lucidus]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

No Naruto knew nothing about Itachi Genjutsu and from with battles with Sasuke Naruto looks the sharingan user in the Eye

Should i name more ppl who had more exp but still lost???

exp is a big factor however there are times when the inexperience beat they experienced such as konohamaru beat one path of the six paths of pain, but people can argue that is "plot no jutsu"

 

[Naruto the wind]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

The title was given for the sole reason that he knew over 1000 justus and knowing all the justu in konoha,

Well kakashi know s 1000 jutsus plus he has kamui so which means hes a god of shinobi too

 

[spokentruth]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

ty someone else with sence +rep

Madara will always have respect 4 Hashirama because he beat him but lets be real Edo Madara would stomp Hashirama No Difficulty the only 1 Who could give Him Difficulty is Tobi And Naruto

 

[Exaar]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Where is the Managa page where is said he could > All past Hokage God of Shinobi Please name those Ninja that werr born then Wait Young Sannin thats about it No Minato Itachi Nagato Naruto Sasuke Killer Bee Etc...

He Retained his Title of "God of shinobi" Till his Death.

Even after the Sannins had Grown up, Even After Minato became Hokage, Even when the A/onoki/Mei/Gaara's Dad were Kages

Also an Old Hiruzen (Past him prime) Already Beat the 1st and 2nd Hokage, So he has a chance to Beat Minato in his Prime.

 

[purewesome]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

madara didnt live throught the 3rds prime, or did he? naruto has a theme that the next generation always pasts the last, will of fire. Hiruzen >> harashima, and the power scaling was different in part 1.

so u accept naruto genaration supress old that means sasuke/naruto>>itachi/pain >>Minato>> Hiruzen >>Tobi>> hashi

 

[Lucidus]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Madara will always have respect 4 Hashirama because he beat him but lets be real Edo Madara would stomp Hashirama No Difficulty the only 1 Who could give Him Difficulty is Tobi And Naruto

well since edo madara has mokuton and rinnegan then its a possibility that he would be stomp is going a bit far he would still put up a fight

He Retained his Title of "God of shinobi" Till his Death.

Even after the Sannins had Grown up, Even After Minato became Hokage, Even when the A/onoki/Mei/Gaara's Dad were Kages

Also an Old Hiruzen (Past him prime) Already Beat the 1st and 2nd Hokage, So he has a chance to Beat Minato in his Prime.

no .... just no, remember the first and second were weakend and he sealed them not beat them in a full scaled battle ... people seem to forget this

 

[spokentruth]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

exp is a big factor however there are times when the inexperience beat they experienced such as konohamaru beat one path of the six paths of pain, but people can argue that is "plot no jutsu"

The whole series is Plot Just fk that Plot no jutsu shyt people only say that Because there angry when there fav character loose thats like if i say they only said He was god of shinobi because of Plot no jutsu Thats BS dnt pull the plot no jutsu card with me

 

[xlilyx]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Don't let this be a Hashirama VS Hiruzen thread.

^ This. Please don't start a war in here. D:
And imo, Hiruzen is said to be the God Of Shinobi, that's true but we have no knowledge of his stats or abilities from when he was in his youth. And just like every other highly respected and powerful character, Hiruzen is also over-estimated. Hashirama vs Hiruzen would be an interesting and brilliant fight but we don't know enough to judge the two Shinobi.
imo.

 

[Untitled]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

so u accept naruto genaration supress old that means sasuke/naruto>>itachi/pain >>Minato>> Hiruzen >>Tobi>> hashi

Thats always been a heavy theme,and duh sasuke and naruto are gonna surpass itachi and nagato at some point, there just kids and they are already OP.

 

[Exaar]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

no .... just no, remember the first and second were weakend and he sealed them not beat them in a full scaled battle ... people seem to forget this

Where does it State they were "weakend".

 

[Darth Wignus]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Are you mad?
The other Kages were around.
Kakashi's dad
The other tail beast host
Hanzo
Danzo
Other Uchihas
Uzimaki's

I bet there were a ton exceptional ninjas.

 

[Lucidus]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

The whole series is Plot Just fk that Plot no jutsu shyt people only say that Because there angry when there fav character loose thats like if i say they only said He was god of shinobi because of Plot no jutsu Thats BS dnt pull the plot no jutsu card with me

lol calm down i actually agree with u, but im trying to see it from both side's trying not to be biased

 

[Talal]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Oh no you didn't!

 

[Lucidus]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Where does it State they were "weakend".

fair enough ... but he till sealed them instead of fighting them in a full scale battle forgetting the fact they were edo

 

[purewesome]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Where does it State they were "weakend".

Basically oro controlled 1st and 2nd unlike kabuto who give his summons free will that make them to fight at full will and kabuto in manga stated that they are kind of weakened state if u want i can dig up in manga chapter

 

[Exaar]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

fair enough ... but he till sealed them instead of fighting them in a full scale battle forgetting the fact they were edo

Doesn't Matter if he Sealed them or not, a Defeat is a Defeat.

Also i'm not forgetting Anything, Thanks to them being edo they were able to Regen their Legs/Arms back that Hiruzen Blow off with a explosive tag.

Them being Edo doesn't change a Damn thing, Their Power wasn't Weakend or change by Them being Edo's, It actually makes them Stronger since they're unable to Die by Normal means.

 

[Lucidus]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Basically oro controlled 1st and 2nd unlike kabuto who give his summons free will that make them to fight at full will and kabuto in manga stated that they are kind of weakened state if u want i can dig up in manga chapter

ty for proving my point