Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

[UnrealSoul]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Please I PWN'd you a long time ago when you couldn't name one battle that hiruzen has won. Hiruzen got killed in the first battle we saw him in. People underestimate simultaneously going up against eternal mangekyou and the kyuubi. I have been waiting for someone to give me just one battle accomplishment. All you can do is assume with no factual information to back it up. Look at the poll if you think your winning you are blind.

Yet the poll is based on assumption it's self.Have we seen hiruzen is his prime or hashirama in his to give an accurate on vote if he was truly the God of Shinobi?Didn't think so...

Good day sir,

 

[MickNerks]

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Please I PWN'd you a long time ago when you couldn't name one battle that hiruzen has won. Hiruzen got killed in the first battle we saw him in. People underestimate simultaneously going up against eternal mangekyou and the kyuubi. I have been waiting for someone to give me just one battle accomplishment. All you can do is assume with no factual information to back it up. Look at the poll if you think your winning you are blind.

I cant give you an actual person but i will show you this..

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.. When Hiruzen and Danzo's group were deciding who would stay back, the only only one who confidently volunteered was hiruzen and he even stated that he was the strongest of all of then there (Including Tobimaru, the acting hokage) and that he wouldnt die. Tobimaru told them he would be the decoy and he was so sure that he would die that he announced that the next day Hiruzen would be the new hokage.

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..That is a testiment to hiruzen's strength, showing that he was already stronger than his sensei (the 2nd hokage) at that age. And the second knew edo tensei and space time ninjutsu.. Just and exaple of how powerful hiruzen was during or before his prime. Blantenly stronger than the second hokage and can kill 20 assasins by himself..

 

[0moi]

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I cant give you an actual person but i will show you this..

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.. When Hiruzen and Danzo's group were deciding who would stay back, the only only one who confidently volunteered was hiruzen and he even stated that he was the strongest of all of then there (Including Tobimaru, the acting hokage) and that he wouldnt die. Tobimaru told them he would be the decoy and he was so sure that he would die that he announced that the next day Hiruzen would be the new hokage.

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..That is a testiment to hiruzen's strength, showing that he was already stronger than his sensei (the 2nd hokage) at that age. And the second knew edo tensei and space time ninjutsu.. Just and exaple of how powerful hiruzen was during or before his prime. Blantenly stronger than the second hokage and can kill 20 assasins by himself..

I still didn't see a PWN on his behalf. I asked him who killed Hashirama.....he gave no answer. He asked me who has Hiruzen fought....I gave no answer. He said Hiruzen has only fought jounin.....I proved him wrong. I said Mito assisted Hashirama with the bijuu....He hasn't proved me wrong. Um 1-0 chief haha. And I stated this a coooouple of pages ago, the polls mean nothing, anyone with web access can vote. If 727 people vote Shikamaru & 999 people vote Kiba does that mean Kiba is better than Shikamaru, no it just shows more people like Kiba

 

[MickNerks]

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I still didn't see a PWN on his behalf. I asked him who killed Hashirama.....he gave no answer. He asked me who has Hiruzen fought....I gave no answer. He said Hiruzen has only fought jounin.....I proved him wrong. I said Mito assisted Hashirama with the bijuu....He hasn't proved me wrong. Um 1-0 chief haha. And I stated this a coooouple of pages ago, the polls mean nothing, anyone with web access can vote. If 727 people vote Shikamaru & 999 people vote Kiba does that mean Kiba is better than Shikamaru, no it just shows more people like Kiba

He cant give you an answer to anything because he doesnt know.. I think he is just tryna sound like he knows so they other hashirama fanboys can have his back and they can try to ignore what the manga says about whose the strongest.. and the poll means nothing becuase when it started hiruzen was winning 90 to 36..

 

[0moi]

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He cant give you an answer to anything because he doesnt know.. I think he is just tryna sound like he knows so they other hashirama fanboys can have his back and they can try to ignore what the manga says about whose the strongest.. and the poll means nothing becuase when it started hiruzen was winning 90 to 36..

No need to even explain you know and I know hes talking out the side of his neck, I'm done arguing only making statements not aimed at anybody, just statements with facts attached lol

 

[Uchiha Frasstonian]

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Well jus to put in my piece. The mere fact that Hiruzen was the youngest to be a kage in history(so far as the manga states) yet again the Hokage which is the strongest of the village with the most talented shinobi attests to Hiruzen's strength however ppl we are talking about two different eras. Im sure (mostly in part to the self healing ability) Hashirama would win that fight between he and hiruzen. Not saying it would be eaSY because: Hiruzen couuld combine earth fire and wind techniques(or was it ash) but u get the point. He had knowledge of mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny jutsu and could perform them as well but hashirama had wood element(which is water and earth combined) he had the ability to control many tailbeasts at will to the point that he couuld give some away just like that and he also beat the second most powerful shinobi in(and yall can bitch all yu want but its a fact an its my opinion)Uchiha Madara which his name alone strikes fear in every shiinobi whether they be Kage or Genin. The point is Hashirama had a Unique difference an so did Hiruzen and Minato whhich is what makes those 3 the best ever, BUT if u were to put one at the top its easy to see why one would more or less go with Hiruzen in termsof all powerful based on he was acknowledge by both Kage and his village at such a young age AND he trained the 3 Sannin AND was able to hold his own in such an age against the Kyuubi and the previous Kages. In my book its Hashirama for the mere fact that theone who is most feared(madara) feared him and knew he needed a piece of him to be the strongest ever. and lets face it Hashirama didnt have to die so young if there werent so many wars in his time(who by the quelled those wars thanks to his power) Hiruzen's power is only heard of at least we get glimpses of what hashirama could do and its in that link i posted down there. Hashirama for me but still NUFF respect for Hiruzen. Watch the madara shodaime fight a mean shit these niggas left a crater in the fckin ground.

 

[TobisPawn]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Hiruzen was/is the strongest Hokage.

 

[0moi]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Well jus to put in my piece. The mere fact that Hiruzen was the youngest to be a kage in history(so far as the manga states) yet again the Hokage which is the strongest of the village with the most talented shinobi attests to Hiruzen's strength however ppl we are talking about two different eras. Im sure (mostly in part to the self healing ability) Hashirama would win that fight between he and hiruzen. Not saying it would be eaSY because: Hiruzen couuld combine earth fire and wind techniques(or was it ash) but u get the point. He had knowledge of mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny jutsu and could perform them as well but hashirama had wood element(which is water and earth combined) he had the ability to control many tailbeasts at will to the point that he couuld give some away just like that and he also beat the second most powerful shinobi in(and yall can bitch all yu want but its a fact an its my opinion)Uchiha Madara which his name alone strikes fear in every shiinobi whether they be Kage or Genin. The point is Hashirama had a Unique difference an so did Hiruzen and Minato whhich is what makes those 3 the best ever, BUT if u were to put one at the top its easy to see why one would more or less go with Hiruzen in termsof all powerful based on he was acknowledge by both Kage and his village at such a young age AND he trained the 3 Sannin AND was able to hold his own in such an age against the Kyuubi and the previous Kages. In my book its Hashirama for the mere fact that theone who is most feared(madara) feared him and knew he needed a piece of him to be the strongest ever. and lets face it Hashirama didnt have to die so young if there werent so many wars in his time(who by the quelled those wars thanks to his power) Hiruzen's power is only heard of at least we get glimpses of what hashirama could do and its in that link i posted down there. Hashirama for me but still NUFF respect for Hiruzen. Watch the madara shodaime fight a mean shit these niggas left a crater in the fckin ground.

TETO chief, i'm done trying to persuade lol

 

[BasedBijuu]

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I still didn't see a PWN on his behalf. I asked him who killed Hashirama.....he gave no answer. He asked me who has Hiruzen fought....I gave no answer. He said Hiruzen has only fought jounin.....I proved him wrong. I said Mito assisted Hashirama with the bijuu....He hasn't proved me wrong. Um 1-0 chief haha. And I stated this a coooouple of pages ago, the polls mean nothing, anyone with web access can vote. If 727 people vote Shikamaru & 999 people vote Kiba does that mean Kiba is better than Shikamaru, no it just shows more people like Kiba

You say the poll means nothing because your losing. The majority of people voting are from the base. I was making a joke about the jounin you take it seriously because you have it something up your bum. Harashima fought Madara and the Kyuubi alone Mito just had the kyuubi sealed in her. Harashima accomplishments > Hiruzen. You have nothing to back up your facts except your boyfriend. Hiruzen is a respectable hokage, one if not the greatest teachers in Naruto however I do not believe he is the strongest hokage who ever lived. I will repeat when you can name a battle that compares to Madara and the Kyuubi then I will give him the title the strongest hokage that ever lived but until that day comes you lose get over it.

 

[Uchiha Frasstonian]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

wats TETO?

 

[BasedBijuu]

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I cant give you an actual person but i will show you this..

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.. When Hiruzen and Danzo's group were deciding who would stay back, the only only one who confidently volunteered was hiruzen and he even stated that he was the strongest of all of then there (Including Tobimaru, the acting hokage) and that he wouldnt die. Tobimaru told them he would be the decoy and he was so sure that he would die that he announced that the next day Hiruzen would be the new hokage.

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..That is a testiment to hiruzen's strength, showing that he was already stronger than his sensei (the 2nd hokage) at that age. And the second knew edo tensei and space time ninjutsu.. Just and exaple of how powerful hiruzen was during or before his prime. Blantenly stronger than the second hokage and can kill 20 assasins by himself..

You are an idiot if you think he wouldn't die. If everyone there new Hiruzen could just kill those people they would have stayed and fought. He wast trying to make the others not worry about him. Your an idiot if you thinks this meant he surpassed the hokage. It just meant that he was the strongest person in the village after the hokage. After reading this I just confirmed that you are an idiot that knows nothing.

 

[Sukalotta Kok]

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Everyone you named has Kekkei genkai.. so of course they are still powerful. Hiruzen didnt have that, all he had were his jutsu and enma. His chakra reserves were way lower then they used to be, which is why he only summoned 2 shadow clones (enma's words).


Orochimaru never got his arms back or jutsu, when he fought sasuke he didnt have them..
I know madara is controlling kuama but for all we know madara could have been fighting wood clones, becuase at the ennd of the day hash was able to touch karuma to supress his chakra.

Kekkei genkai or not idc. If you'd read it said that oldness isnt an excuse. If Hiruzen was a god, master of elements, knows 1000 jutsu's , wtf does a kekkei genkai have on him? Oonoki's been fighting since the 3rd Raikage appeared till Madara appeared and Oonoki even says he's running low on chakra but he STILL finds the will to fight and pulls off some amazing tech. Chakra depletion isnt an excuse. You speak as if Kekkei genkai's are unbeatable when they are.........

I'm HIV positive Orochimaru fought 4tailed Naruto.... which REQUIRED HIS HANDS
And your basically saying a what if... Idgaf if you say "but for all we know".. We DONT know anything. All we know is that Hash def. Madara and Kurama-- Who was in control of Kurama.
You're underestimating the fricken power Kurama has and Madara's EMS, not to mention Madara himself.

 

[0moi]

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You say the poll means nothing because your losing. The majority of people voting are from the base. I was making a joke about the jounin you take it seriously because you have it something up your bum. Harashima fought Madara and the Kyuubi alone Mito just had the kyuubi sealed in her. Harashima accomplishments > Hiruzen. You have nothing to back up your facts except your boyfriend. Hiruzen is a respectable hokage, one if not the greatest teachers in Naruto however I do not believe he is the strongest hokage who ever lived. I will repeat when you can name a battle that compares to Madara and the Kyuubi then I will give him the title the strongest hokage that ever lived but until that day comes you lose get over it.

I'm done arguing with ya chief, that's your opinion I have mine, I could let this linger on and watch my post count skyrocket but nah I'm str8(that goes for that childish boyfriend comment too). If you read the manga like I have you most definitely already know only 1 of Hiruzen's battles have been publicised yet, and I'm not about to continue on thread with your ranting of "Name a battle Hiruzen has done that equals Madara & Kurama", until his battles are revealed. You're basically playing 3 card monte with xray vision. Not worth the words chief. TETO

wats TETO?

to each their own

 

[Sukalotta Kok]

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I cant give you an actual person but i will show you this..

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.. When Hiruzen and Danzo's group were deciding who would stay back, the only only one who confidently volunteered was hiruzen and he even stated that he was the strongest of all of then there (Including Tobimaru, the acting hokage) and that he wouldnt die. Tobimaru told them he would be the decoy and he was so sure that he would die that he announced that the next day Hiruzen would be the new hokage.

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..That is a testiment to hiruzen's strength, showing that he was already stronger than his sensei (the 2nd hokage) at that age. And the second knew edo tensei and space time ninjutsu.. Just and exaple of how powerful hiruzen was during or before his prime. Blantenly stronger than the second hokage and can kill 20 assasins by himself..

Hiruzen present in your link wasnt stronger then Tobimaru. He said he was the strongest of Danzo and their little squad NOT tha tobimaru. Tobimaru let Hiruzen be hokage because Hiruzen was the more fit one to be it, Confident, calm, etc. The reason why Tobimaru wanted to be decoy was because he stated that that they're the bright flames who must protect the village. No where does it say that Hiruzen is stronger than Tobimaru. Most of your bs is just a theory. Where does it say he can kill 20 assassins by himself? sigh Fanboys man. :sy:

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If Hiruzen was stronger than Then Tobimaru then why did Danzo scream like a little girl and say that noone's greater than him? The way Tobimaru see's it is that Danzo and Hiruzen are equal. Rivals. He had a long slow decision deciding which of the 2 is gonna be hokage, but Danzo's emotions got the best of him therefore Hiruzen was the better pick. Obviously Hiruzen had a different opinon on who's stronger BUT coming from a third persons POV noone was stronger.

Now Hiruzen at prime could possibly be stronger than Tobimaru.

 

[MickNerks]

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You are an idiot if you think he wouldn't die. If everyone there new Hiruzen could just kill those people they would have stayed and fought. He wast trying to make the others not worry about him. Your an idiot if you thinks this meant he surpassed the hokage. It just meant that he was the strongest person in the village after the hokage. After reading this I just confirmed that you are an idiot that knows nothing.

ok.. I cant talk to you anymore, because now your not being reasonable.. All i did was state what everyone all ready knew, which is the hiruzen was and is stronger than Tobimara and yet you still wanna argue with me about that.. so basically anything that support hiruzen means your against it..

Honestly neither of us know whether he could have won or not against assasins because the fact is he didnt end up fighting, but what we do know is that hiruzen knows shadow clone jutsu and he was capable of many more then 20 (which we can expect because konohameru was shown using at least 100 when he fought naruto). so one on one againts all assasins means hiruzen would have won.

"Your an idiot if you thinks this meant he surpassed the hokage." are you saying that tobimaru is stronger than hiruzen??? because that is far from the truth and only a 1. hater or 2. anti-hiruzen @$$hole would said something like that.lol

Please stop being a hater.. lets just agree to disagree because now not only have you shown that you dont think hashirama is stronger than hiruzen (which i can respect because alot of people think that) but now you've said that tobimaru is stronger than hiruzen which is straight bull$#!+ (and i cant respect because its sounds stupid based on what we know and have seen):sy:

 

[BasedBijuu]

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ok.. I cant talk to you anymore, because now your not being reasonable.. All i did was state what everyone all ready knew, which is the hiruzen was and is stronger than Tobimara and yet you still wanna argue with me about that.. so basically anything that support hiruzen means your against it..

Honestly neither of us know whether he could have won or not against assasins because the fact is he didnt end up fighting, but what we do know is that hiruzen knows shadow clone jutsu and he was capable of many more then 20 (which we can expect because konohameru was shown using at least 100 when he fought naruto). so one on one againts all assasins means hiruzen would have won.

"Your an idiot if you thinks this meant he surpassed the hokage." are you saying that tobimaru is stronger than hiruzen??? because that is far from the truth and only a 1. hater or 2. anti-hiruzen @$$hole would said something like that.lol

Please stop being a hater.. lets just agree to disagree because now not only have you shown that you dont think hashirama is stronger than hiruzen (which i can respect because alot of people think that) but now you've said that tobimaru is stronger than hiruzen which is straight bull$#!+ (and i cant respect because its sounds stupid based on what we know and have seen):sy:

Read just read please read. You said at that point Hiruzen is stronger than tobimaru which is false. Could hiruzen be stronger than tobimaru maybe don't know alot about either of them. But at that point were the 2nd hokage died he was not stronger. If Hiruzen could have killed all the assassins why wouldn't he do it instead of letting the 2nd hokage die. That makes no sense at all. That is why you are an idiot stop proving me right.:flaw::sy:

 

[MickNerks]

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Hiruzen present in your link wasnt stronger then Tobimaru. He said he was the strongest of Danzo and their little squad NOT tha tobimaru. Tobimaru let Hiruzen be hokage because Hiruzen was the more fit one to be it, Confident, calm, etc. The reason why Tobimaru wanted to be decoy was because he stated that that they're the bright flames who must protect the village. No where does it say that Hiruzen is stronger than Tobimaru. Most of your bs is just a theory. Where does it say he can kill 20 assassins by himself? sigh Fanboys man. :sy:

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If Hiruzen was stronger than Then Tobimaru then why did Danzo scream like a little girl and say that noone's greater than him? The way Tobimaru see's it is that Danzo and Hiruzen are equal. Rivals. He had a long slow decision deciding which of the 2 is gonna be hokage, but Danzo's emotions got the best of him therefore Hiruzen was the better pick. Obviously Hiruzen had a different opinon on who's stronger BUT coming from a third persons POV noone was stronger.

Now Hiruzen at prime could possibly be stronger than Tobimaru.

1. Hiruzen said "Im the best of all of us", you can take it as him talking about the team, but i take it as everyone in the circle, We just have diffrent view on that.

2. Its funny you say that we should believe the 2nd was the greatess in the village because danzo said it. Because many people say we shouldnt believe Iruku when he saids hiruzen was the strongest hokage to ever live. So you can make a choice: either you believe what danzo said about 2nd being the greatest in the village, but then you have to believ that iruka was right too when he said hiruzen was the stronges hokage to ever live, or you can not believe what iruka says but then you also cant believe what danzo says about the 2nd being the strongest in the village. You cant be bias, so chose carefully.lol

 

[BasedBijuu]

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1. Hiruzen said "Im the best of all of us", you can take it as him talking about the team (except), but i take it as everyone in the circle, We just have diffrent view on that.

2. Its funny you say that we should believe the 2nd was the greatess in the village because danzo said it. Because many people say we shouldnt believe Iruku when he saids hiruzen was the strongest hokage to ever live. So you can make a choice: either you believe what danzo said about 2nd being the greatest in the village, but then you have to believ that iruka was right too when he said hiruzen was the stronges hokage to ever live, or you can not believe what iruka says but then you also cant believe what danzo says about the 2nd being the strongest in the village. You cant be bias, so chose carefully.lol

A hokage = strongest ninja in the village idiot. Never said because danzo said it you did. Please stop your making this to easy.

 

[MickNerks]

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Read just read please read. You said at that point Hiruzen is stronger than tobimaru which is false. Could hiruzen be stronger than tobimaru maybe don't know alot about either of them. But at that point were the 2nd hokage died he was not stronger. If Hiruzen could have killed all the assassins why wouldn't he do it instead of letting the 2nd hokage die. That makes no sense at all. That is why you are an idiot stop proving me right.:flaw::sy:

Because the 2nd hokage gave him an order to go back to the village, THATS WHY HE DIDNT DO IT.. I just said that hiruzen volunteered to be the decoy.. The second hokage would not let him, The second hokage would not let him, The second hokage would not let him and told him to go back to the village to become hokage.. Had to say it 3 times so you dont miss it this time..

 

[MickNerks]

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A hokage = strongest ninja in the village idiot. Never said because danzo said it you did. Please stop your making this to easy.

That wasnt directed toward you, please slow down and pay attention to which post are re-commented toward you.. You making yourself look dumb.