Hiruzen Sarutobi Fans check-in

[Stark]

Since day one, and I see a lot of fake fans on this thread..

 

[Byakusharinnegan]

Meh. I don't expect much more from him; wouldn't get my hopes up, if I were you.

 

[MickNerks]

Since day one, and I see a lot of fake fans on this thread..

I added you to the list too/

 

[Ovan]

Some people act like their favorite character have to be the strongest thing on the show. I like him due to his move set, his father like role when he was Hokage. AND HE IS A MONKEY BOSS D8 < He like the ninja Yoda. I don't see how people don't like him. c; Don't make him solo with the staff.

 

[Sarutobi Sensei]

Sarutobi represents!

 

[Dantee]

This is a bandwagon check in ****k outta here...

 

[Crossroads]

Hey look, there's my name on the list.

Before the new chapter came out.

When everyone hated Hiruzen.

:leaf:

 

[Sarutobi Sensei]

This is a bandwagon check in ****k outta here...

Sarutobi Represents!

 

[startup97]

The LUMBERJACK Hokage!!!! Hiruzen Sarutobi!!!

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Meh. I don't expect much more from him; wouldn't get my hopes up, if I were you.

Going by manga standards, he's about to become very important. The last one in a group to fight is typically the most fearsome. Not only that, but he knows how Obito's jutsus work and has probably formulated a plan to deal with him.

 

[startup97]

Going by manga standards, he's about to become very important. The last one in a group to fight is typically the most fearsome. Not only that, but he knows how Obito's jutsus work and has probably formulated a plan to deal with him.

Exactly but still people call him weak on the base. Just wait! He will show OP Jutsus in the upcoming chapters!

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Exactly but still people call him weak on the base. Just wait! He will show OP Jutsus in the upcoming chapters!

It drives me nuts on how clueless and sometimes hypocritical people can be. They base Hiruzen, overall, on his performance against Orochimaru in pt.1 without keeping context.

1. Hiruzen was old, it was force fed to us multiple times by multiple characters including himself that he wasn't as powerful as he was in his prime. His chakra had diminished so he had to be careful, he was having a hard time lifting Enma, his performance was abysmal compared to his younger years, etc.

2. The powerscaling increased since pt.1, but then context is still supposed to be the same. Although the fight was underwhelming by pt.2's standards, it was stated in the manga to be a Kage-level battle.

3. Pt.2 Orochimaru, the one that toyed with Naruto and almost beat Sasuke while dying, was much weaker than the Orochimaru that Hiruzen fought. He was Minato's rival for the position of 4th Hokage, to which many people think he should had been Hokage instead of Minato, and has been deemed a threat to EMS Sasuke. Yet stated that if Hiruzen were 10 years younger that he would had beaten Orochimaru.

4. Even though he was older and weaker, he was still considered stronger than Ei, Onoki, Yagura, and Gaara Sr. And yes, Kishimoto intended on making the other Kages to be Kage-level.

5. Because Hiruzen was old and his chakra capacity diminished, he was forced to fight smarter and not harder, against three immortal opponents. He used Dragon Napalm to try to hit them all at the same time, used Mudslide Wall for defense, Enma for support, and a Shadow Clone+Reaper Death Seal combo for the win.

Kishimoto clearly hasn't forgotten about Hiruzen, all the hype he gave him has not been retconned out of existence. He even gave Hiruzen more hype in pt.2; having a young Hiruzen say to Tobirama's face that he's stronger, and the pseudo Rikudou Danzo said that he wasn't ever able to surpass Hiruzen. Even now he has been called "one of the strongest" in comparison to the likes of Hashirama, Tobirama, and Minato. Hiruzen will likely get the pt.2 powerscaling treatment and leave people wondering just how powerful he really was in his prime.

Then let's not forget about Enma. Apes are naturally stronger and more agile than humans, so a ninja ape is clearly going to be stronger and more agile than ninja humans. He may know other jutsus than just Adamantine Staff and Indestructible Prison Wall too.

 

[KingHashirama]

don't worry, Hashirama fans ain't switching over if its about "power bandwagon"

 

[grizzlyshree]

don't worry, Hashirama fans ain't switching over if its about "power bandwagon"

youre really insecure! arent you?

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

don't worry, Hashirama fans ain't switching over if its about "power bandwagon"

it's not about power
most of his fans like him because he's the classic / original

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

The guy never left enough of an impact on me, he was a nice man but was gone too early for me to eagerly like or dislike him yknow? That last chapter where he saved Naruto and he said Grandpa! I got so happy, I am a fan but his Oro fight didn't really cement him as a favourite.

What you said about bandwagoners is so true though, being a Kabuto fan from the start- there's been the odd person showing up just because of his DSM & his Edo tensei. As if those are what make a good character.

 

[Trollasaur]

don't worry, Hashirama fans ain't switching over if its about "power bandwagon"

Going to laugh my ass off if Hiruzen gets massive fire style, and island destroying feats

 

[startup97]

Going to laugh my ass off if Hiruzen gets massive fire style, and island destroying feats

Totally agree! Even in his old age, his Chakra was already cracking the building on which him and Orochimaru were standing on.

 

[startup97]

it's not about power
most of his fans like him because he's the classic / original

Yeah!!! He fights with brains!!! But he also has brawn with Enma!

 

[FlemSmack]

I'll join.

Hiruzen is the one Hokage I want to see at their best over the others. He has a huge arsenal of jutsus, and the best part is that when he fights he doesn't just use one after another. He has been shown to combine them into even greater jutsus.