Arenyou really that much in denyal? Hiruzen has no counter for PF susanoo or two meteors falling down on him. He has no counter for KA, totska blade, Tsukiyomi, and amaturasu.
Itachi one shots with Tsukiyomi/Amaturasu.
Madara double slams with 2 meteors.
Ooniki is >>>>>> Hiruzen by feats.
Quit being a hiruzen wanker. Please. It is getting old.
I think people are just overwhelmed with how many people are suddenly Hiruzen fans after the chapter.
There really isn't much wrong with what you said. Being able to counter that statue like that all by himself was impressive, especially since I remember everyone hyping that statue up to solo just about anything. Old Hiruzen is pretty good and right now I'd believe that in his prime he'd stand a better chance of beating Madara than 90% of the ninja we've seen so far
Funny thing when i say these stuff and provide with evidence everybody loses their mind, but when you say that Itachi can potentially 1 shot the SO6P with Tsukuyomi, thats being ok, beside that you always flame users in here, just leave.
Anyway, your logic is flawed. I never claimed that EMS was better, I just said it's the Sharingan's ability to read, predict and analyse not the Rinnegan. The distinct abilities of the Rinnegan are manipulating gravity, absorbing souls, controlling life and death, summons and mechanical weaponry.
The Sharingan's ability is the insight, genjutsu, copying ninjutsu/taijutsu and then of course the Mangekyou provides one, two or three extra abilities.
Besides, you're comparing EMS Sasuke to Rinnegan SM Hashirama DNA Madara.
Its not so much what you said, its more about what your implying. Hiruzen does NOT > Hashirama. The picture that you linked too in the quote was from the very beginning of Part 1, WELL before all of this Hashirama and Madara crapola. The story has changed some facts since Kishi originally created it, one of those is that Kishi no longer intended for Hiruzen to be the "God of shinobi", thus he had Madara give that title to Hashirama.
The picture you posted in the original post about Hiruzen dodging Obito doesn't mean anything. He made an educated guess at what Obito's attack was. And he wasn't able to dodge it, so the comparison to a sharingan was useless.
The scan of Orochimaru claiming Hiruzen knows every jutsu in the world, again, same thing as his title. Things have obviously changed since the beginning of Part 1. If Hiruzen knew every jutsu in the world, he would have been able to solo Obito without a scratch on him.We're talking on par with SO6P at that point.
And regarding the scan of Orochimaru talking to Hiruzen, I don't get how you linked that to the Rinnegan. He was talking about the man who created the color green, but not as a reference to mixing Senju and Uchiha DNA. I doubt that Kishi even created the concept for the Rinnegan at that point in time.
The only logical point you made so far was the five elements thing, but even that doesn't mean anything. Madara fought the five Kage, who are all experts in their elemental jutsu. Some of them even combining multiple elements to create new ones, yet Madara bat them down like a dog begging for food, and he didn't give them the respect of a real fight. He was just stretching basically. So no, Hiruzen would be fodderized if he went up against Madara, ESPECIALLY current Madara, who solo'd everything that stood in his way, BLIND.
Hi. I'm pretty sure Hiruzen was correct and that you are the one whose wrong. Obito only added Yin-Yang when he gained complete control over the ten-tails. When Hiruzen was hit with the technique, he was able to regenerate a while after (at least 4 elements). But when Minato was hit by the technique, his arm did not regenerate (complete control over ten tails, add yin-yang - nullify all ninjutsu).
Funny thing when i say these stuff and provide with evidence everybody loses their mind, but when you say that Itachi can potentially 1 shot the SO6P with Tsukuyomi, thats being ok, beside that you always flame users in here, just leave.
Was comparing Dojutsu there, not users, but you are right at that point true.
Your are obviously a blind hiruzen fan boy lol.... Hiruzen cannot even beat itachi on his death bed. No you are telling me that hiruzen can beat madara who can solo everyone including all bijuu at the same time BLIND? Do you understand how dumb you sound man? If anything, you are the troll here.
And to piss you off even more, Itachi with one eye could probably murder hiruzen. Also, EMS sasuke murders him. Hiruzen is the weakest hokage after tsunade. Face it
Your are obviously a blind hiruzen fan boy lol.... Hiruzen cannot even beat itachi on his death bed. No you are telling me that hiruzen can beat madara who can solo everyone including all bijuu at the same time BLIND? Do you understand how dumb you sound man? If anything, you are the troll here.
And to piss you off even more, Itachi with one eye could probably murder hiruzen. Also, EMS sasuke murders him. Hiruzen is the weakest hokage after tsunade. Face it
Lol you are so naive. He didn't even tsukiyomi him. It was a normal genjutsu.
When he did tsukiyomi him though, he couldn't walk for 2 weeks. Anyways, kakashi's whole plan didn't even work out for him anyways, itachi would have killed him remotely (hundreds of miles away) if naruto wasn't there.
