hiruzen (prime) vs onoki (prime)

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lol right orochimaru strongest dudes ever? oro is so lame dude, you know orochimaru is hanzo's bitch right?

hanzo beat him and name him, if thats not the definition of a bitch idk wat is

also with all his power he still got beat by a simple genjutsu, pretty lame if you ask me

so? genjutsu is nagato's weakness as well, but hes badass

and hanzo beat oro before he got his kinjutsu and full power
 

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so? genjutsu is nagato's weakness as well, but hes badass

and hanzo beat oro before he got his kinjutsu and full power

lol who said nagato is badass? he is lame too

and i bet if hanzo was still alive orochimaru still would not try to face him
 

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lol who said nagato is badass? he is lame too

and i bet if hanzo was still alive orochimaru still would not try to face him

Dude you fail. Pain(Nagato) beat Hanzo,Hanzo "beat" tsunade, J-man, Oro, J-man could have beaten Pain. People say that Oro is stronger than J-man (No proof). But also people say that Itachi > J-man only because he said he suck at genjustu.

Pain>Hanzo, Hanzo>Sannin, Pain>=Jiriaya, Jiriya>=Oro, Itachi>Oro, Itachi(?)Jiriaya, Itachi(<)Nagato, and Hanzo(?)Itachi. Madara beats all of them.
 

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Two featless characters going against each other, great thread man :rolleyes:
 

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hiruzen without a doubt! "by hype ofcourse" Hence the fact that he was hailed as the strongest kage out of all the kage of the 5 great nations, masterd over a 1000 jutsu, and Hailed the title that only rikudoe sennin was said to be ..... "god of shinobi"

even in his old age, hiruzen was said to still be the strongest of the 5 kage.

it doesn't matter if onoki can fly and shoot jintons. hiruzen was said to have a counter to every jutsu in the leaf village. sharingan techniques and mangekyou sharingan techniques! including the 8 inner gates!!

hiruzen was also said to be able to have a counter to just about anyone's fighting style!

just by his immense amount of hype, he wins hands down this shit is not even debatable!
 

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Hiruzen. Oonoki and Hiruzen were both Kages during the same time and Kishi said that Hiruzen was the strongest Kage of his time.
 

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We all know that Hizuren has been called the strongest kage at the time of his death and the strongest kage period. If this is true he could beat that stupid flying man easy. It is no secret that powerful in part 1 is no where near powerful in part two. Just look at kakashi who passes out after using three water Suiton tech and sharingan for ten minutes. Yet when fighting kakuzu in part two he uses lightning cutter six times along as well as sharingon the whole time and did not require a hospital visit after. I refuse to believe this much of a power gap is due to a 3 year time skip. After all kakashi all ways had an impressive rep so why whould he be that low on power. The hokage would be alot more powerful if we could see him recently
 

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Onoki mid difficult.

Unless someone tells me how Hiruzens counters jinton.
 

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hirzuen wins but it wont be easy
 

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hiruzen without a doubt! "by hype ofcourse" Hence the fact that he was hailed as the strongest kage out of all the kage of the 5 great nations, masterd over a 1000 jutsu, and Hailed the title that only rikudoe sennin was said to be ..... "god of shinobi"

even in his old age, hiruzen was said to still be the strongest of the 5 kage.

it doesn't matter if onoki can fly and shoot jintons. hiruzen was said to have a counter to every jutsu in the leaf village. sharingan techniques and mangekyou sharingan techniques! including the 8 inner gates!!

hiruzen was also said to be able to have a counter to just about anyone's fighting style!

just by his immense amount of hype, he wins hands down this shit is not even debatable!

This ^^^^^^^ Plus rep(I have to, was gonna say that)
 

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oro said if hiruzen was ten years younger, he would have little chance of beating him,
no. stop saying that. he said if sarutobi was ten years younger he would have pulled his soul all the way out and defeated him

hiruzen would win
how?

didnt say he was weak but he is very lame, he spend all his time manipulating people lives and chasing after sharingan and when his chance came he got cut up and absorbed
so basically you think hes lame because he acted like a villain

plus itachi paralyze that nigga with a simple genjutsu and he ran away like a little bytch
show me oro running away. you cant.we only saw a brief glimpse of the fight


Hiruzen was considered the strongest kage of his generation,
sasuke was considered zabuza's killer and an "elite uchiha".

you know orochimaru is hanzo's bitch right?
its unclear who was using who. oro is no one's bitch. he uses everyone for his own ends

also with all his power he still got beat by a simple genjutsu, pretty lame if you ask me
that was many years ago. he didnt "get beat". you are only defeated if your unable to continue fighting, give up or retreat.

J-man could have beaten Pain.
so why didnt he?

Hence the fact that he was hailed as the strongest kage out of all the kage of the 5 great nations
doesnt make him actually strongest. thats only kabutos opinion

masterd over a 1000 jutsu
no he didnt

Hailed the title that only rikudoe sennin was said to be ..... "god of shinobi"
so was nagato and rikudo didnt exist yet in part 1.

even in his old age, hiruzen was said to still be the strongest of the 5 kage.
take a look at that quote again "its said the hokage is the strongest of the 5 kage...because he is the hokage". so kabuto was saying what other people think of the hokage reputation. not hiruzen specifically

hiruzen was said to have a counter to every jutsu in the leaf village.
doesnt mean he actually does. ninjas are always coming up with variations of their jutsu to avoid things like one man having a counter for everything. only one ninja i know of has a counter for everything and that is tobi
sharingan techniques and mangekyou sharingan techniques! including the 8 inner gates!!
show me proof he has a counter for amaterasu

hiruzen was also said to be able to have a counter to just about anyone's fighting style!
link or it didnt happen

Kishi said that Hiruzen was the strongest Kage of his time.
link? or are we just making crap up again?

We all know that Hizuren has been called the strongest kage at the time of his death and the strongest kage period
we all know sasuke has been called zabuza's killer, diedara claims he is sasukes killer and people in ame said pain doesnt exist. kakashi said sharingan originated from byakugan. it doesnt make any of these claims actually correct.
 
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