hiruzen(prime)&hashirama vs ems sasuke&ems madara

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well,who would win?.....

i mean i am just curious.xd

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note:remember that madara is not edo and he does not have rinnegan and hiruzen can't use reaper death seal.

no other restrictions for both parties.

while giving a verdict on who would win,please take your time to explain why they would win.:)
 

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Hiruzen's ire style is incredible, even better than Sasuke's.
fuk you. have you seen sasukes variety, skill and mastery? hiruzens dragon flame is garbage next to sasuke and madaras massive katons

Hashirama already beat Madara.
we dont know how, or what happened. madara could have been weakened already
 

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Hiruzen prime > Hashirama
orochimaru: whats the matter? do you intend to let the former hokages kill you bit by bit as they TOY WITH YOU?

Hashirama > Madara
we dont know what happened. they are implied to be equals. two strongest of their time and this time.

Hiruzen prime>Sasuke Hashirama has already destroyed Madara. (manga fact)
actually madara was not destroyed as he seemed to be alive and well in nagatos time. hiruzen prime has literally no feats to suggest he could keep up with sasukes enton + kirin.
hashirama based on what we've seen, just doesnt truly have a viable counter for perfect susano. yet. we need to see that fight for ourselves before deciding whos actually the stronger one
 

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orochimaru: whats the matter? do you intend to let the former hokages kill you bit by bit as they TOY WITH YOU?

we dont know what happened. they are implied to be equals. two strongest of their time and this time.

actually madara was not destroyed as he seemed to be alive and well in nagatos time. hiruzen prime has literally no feats to suggest he could keep up with sasukes enton + kirin.
hashirama based on what we've seen, just doesnt truly have a viable counter for perfect susano. yet. we need to see that fight for ourselves before deciding whos actually the stronger one
Madara could not do a thing after that fight. He was that injured from the fight.

Hiruzen old would beat Sasuke.

Hashirama already beat the perfect Susanoo and even now Madara says that Hashirama is the only one who could stop him.
 

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Madara could not do a thing after that fight. He was that injured from the fight
he didnt want to. he got what he wanted from hashi.

Hiruzen old would beat Sasuke.
how?

Hashirama already beat the perfect Susanoo and even now Madara says that Hashirama is the only one who could stop him.
could, doesnt mean will. madaras hardly fought hashirama in special conditions like the ones we make. he fought him last time not knowing stronger people than him have already shown up. clearly hes no longer the "only one who can stop him", not that hashi would stop edo madara at all

Hiruzen rapes Sasuke
sasukes better in literally every way. lightning trumps mud wall. susano trumps shuriken kage bunshin. great dragon fire beats hiruzen katon. amaterasu sword beats enma whos still a living thing and will burn. amaterasu shurikens burn the old man. how can he even attack him if sasuke surrounds himself in enton
 

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he didnt want to. he got what he wanted from hashi.

how?

could, doesnt mean will. madaras hardly fought hashirama in special conditions like the ones we make. he fought him last time not knowing stronger people than him have already shown up. clearly hes no longer the "only one who can stop him", not that hashi would stop edo madara at all

sasukes better in literally every way. lightning trumps mud wall. susano trumps shuriken kage bunshin. great dragon fire beats hiruzen katon. amaterasu sword beats enma whos still a living thing and will burn. amaterasu shurikens burn the old man. how can he even attack him if sasuke surrounds himself in enton
I'm sorry but Madara said that he was the only one who could stop him now, even though he has all his power ups. And this thread is EMS Madara which Hashirama has already beat.

Hiruzen has two releases, is smarter and has Enma who is OP, His fire style is better. And with a teamate who knows about Susanoo, he will have no problem fighting against it.
 

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Madara said that he was the only one who could stop him now
madaras barely scratched the surface of his power with rinnegan. and i believe its only cos of mito he won last time

His fire style is better
no it isnt

Hiruzen has two releases
madara doesnt need 1 when he has doujutsus and rinnegan which enables him to perform all 5

And with a teamate who knows about Susanoo, he will have no problem fighting against it.
knowing about something doesnt mean you can counter it
 
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