Hiruzen> minato and here is why (READ first)

[iknowwhotobiis]

It has been stated in the manga that hiruzen knew all existing jutsus in konoha. If I am not mistaken, that also includes the FTG and here is why.

Most of you will say no because Minato was dead at that time. That is not sufficient because minato special guards knew FTG as well and they are ALIVE during the thid time, which means that FTG is an EXISTING jutsu in konoha.

So since hiruzen knows FTG, he is stronger than minato. THoughts?!

 

[Kettei]

No just no

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

No just no. It wasn't literal, he can't know all jutsu in Konoha, just the basic ones. He can't use KGs and clan jutsus like Fang Over Fang, Mind Transfer Jutsu etc

 

[Punk Hazard]

1. why didnt he use it on oro

2. thats like saying you may have super strength, but i have super strength, therefore im stronger.

 

[choft]

It has been stated in the manga that hiruzen knew all existing jutsus in konoha. If I am not mistaken, that also includes the FTG and here is why.

Most of you will say no because Minato was dead at that time. That is not sufficient because minato special guards knew FTG as well and they are ALIVE during the thid time, which means that FTG is an EXISTING jutsu in konoha.

So since hiruzen knows FTG, he is stronger than minato. THoughts?!

If Hiruzen knows FTG, why didn't he use it against Orochimaru?

EDIT: haha, Rikerslade you beat me to it. =)

 

[pemayozer]

may b he knew it theorotically but i doubt he could use it battle

 

[Chojuro Sama Kun]

Dude..you just ruined my fav char's rep man.. In the manga it says tht hiruzen wished that minato would be still alive to face oro

 

[Memoria]

Lol no dude he doesn't know FTG, even if he know it he can't perform it, or else he would've used it against Orochimaru.

You can't just say he is stronger than Minato just because you think he can use FTG, but I think prime Hiruzen might be stronger than Minato before he died.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

to all of you minato fanbois saying why didnt he use on oro. The answer is quite simple. FTG requires preparation. THe special kunais and the seals. The third was not ready to fight since he was attacked by surprise.... He knows FTG and many more jutsus, obviously he will not use all of them. Minato taught him the dead demon consuming seal, it is obivous that he also taught him the FTG. sorry minato fanbois. So hiruzen > minato

 

[Sanzen]

We don't know enough about hiruzen to make a fair assessment but just from how good of a ninja he was to be the hokage and in his last fight e took on oro and 2 previous Kages. I'd say he was pretty strong. He also trained jairaiya(spelling). I'd say it would be an awesome all out fight but in the end minato because he has the toads

 

[Blaze Release]

I usually bash minato fans because they talk the most nonsense here, but this thread is just a NO, in relation to the hiruzen learning ftg, he obviously knows about it though

 

[Memoria]

to all of you minato fanbois saying why didnt he use on oro. The answer is quite simple. FTG requires preparation. THe special kunais and the seals. The third was not ready to fight since he was attacked by surprise.... He knows FTG and many more jutsus, obviously he will not use all of them. Minato taught him the dead demon consuming seal, it is obivous that he also taught him the FTG. sorry minato fanbois. So hiruzen > minato

Oops sorry but show me the manga panel where Hiruzen uses FTG, or it didn't happen.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

I am just using manga facts here, hiruzen was called the professor who knew all existing jutsus. FTG IS an existing jutsu. SO yeah hiruzen knows it...

 

[Punk Hazard]

to all of you minato fanbois saying why didnt he use on oro. The answer is quite simple. FTG requires preparation. THe special kunais and the seals. The third was not ready to fight since he was attacked by surprise.... He knows FTG and many more jutsus, obviously he will not use all of them. Minato taught him the dead demon consuming seal, it is obivous that he also taught him the FTG. sorry minato fanbois. So hiruzen > minato

1. still, if he does, how would that make him stronger than hiruzen

2. if hiruzen was really better than minato, why didnt he have seals prepared before hand

 

[Kettei]

to all of you minato fanbois saying why didnt he use on oro. The answer is quite simple. FTG requires preparation. THe special kunais and the seals. The third was not ready to fight since he was attacked by surprise.... He knows FTG and many more jutsus, obviously he will not use all of them. Minato taught him the dead demon consuming seal, it is obivous that he also taught him the FTG. sorry minato fanbois. So hiruzen > minato

Hiruzen fanboy.minato would be to fast for hiruzen.

 

[choft]

to all of you minato fanbois saying why didnt he use on oro. The answer is quite simple. FTG requires preparation. THe special kunais and the seals. The third was not ready to fight since he was attacked by surprise.... He knows FTG and many more jutsus, obviously he will not use all of them. Minato taught him the dead demon consuming seal, it is obivous that he also taught him the FTG. sorry minato fanbois. So hiruzen > minato

Way to go assume everyone is a Minato fanboy if they disagree with you.

First off, I'm not a Minato fanboy nor a Hiruzen fanboy.
Secondly, I don't know whether Hiruzen is greater than Minato or not.

I just think your speculation that Hiruzen has FTG is completely and utterly ridiculous.

IF Hiruzen knew how to use FTG, I'm sure he would have some special kunais on him, and I'm sure he would have places to teleport to in advance, just like Minato did. Also, from what I've seen Minato do, it isn't that hard to put a seal on someone. One touch seems to equal being sealed. I'm sure Hiruzen could do the same thing, yet we don't see it. Why? Because he doesn't have it.

He doesn't have FTG. FTG is way too useful. If Hiruzen had it, I'm sure he would have used it against Orochimaru.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

Oops sorry but show me the manga panel where Hiruzen uses FTG, or it didn't happen.

LOL i will not spend my time with you sorry. go bother someone else.

I usually bash minato fans because they talk the most nonsense here, but this thread is just a NO, in relation to the hiruzen learning ftg, he obviously knows about it though

Well, I am using manga facts. Hiruzen knows all existing jutsus in konoha correct?!

FTG is not a blood line limit jutsus or a hiden technique from clans just like shikamaru ability.


For all the others - BTW, i am an itachi and hashi fanboi and I dont really care for hiruzen. Please use manga facts and logic to prove otherwise or dont bother replying. Saying why he didnt use it is pointless. So you want him to use 1000 jutsus in one fight get real.
So hiruzen knows FTG. I am just using logic and manga facts. Unless you counter them with facts, I will not change my mind sorry.

 

[lol99]

No just no

^^ enough said

 

[Madara The Eternal]

He knew of them bt cant do them all

 

[Kurama2012]

god ur r stupid if the 3rd had ftg he would most likely be alive and besides ftg is not a leaf tech if it was then most of the village will be able to use it.
ftg is a created tech by the 4th hokage and his body gaurds had a variant of the ftg and was not a battle type as it needed 3 people to use.

so why dont you come up with actual proof for your thread instead of making stuff up